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tfan
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 11/18/17 10:55 am ::: |
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Based on this pic, I'd call her 6-3. |
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SDHoops
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Posted: 11/18/17 11:28 am ::: |
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Yeah, I think it's the general consensus that heights get fudged more often than not. General rule of thumb is add two inches from height without shoes.
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SDHoops
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Posted: 11/18/17 11:29 am ::: |
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Yeah, I think it's the general consensus that heights get fudged more often than not. General rule of thumb is add two inches from height without shoes. Anyone who thinks that Morgan William from MSU is really 5'4" is dreaming
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willtalk
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Posted: 11/18/17 11:35 am ::: |
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The height at the top of someones head means little in basketball. They should measure the height of a persons reach. I remember asking a guy who was two inches shorter than I but still was the best rb'er on our team. He asked me to hold up my arm as high as I could and his reach exceeded mine by quite a bit ( and I have long arms). His reach even exceeded a guy who was 5 inches taller than he was. Of course this guy was a freak but it makes a point. Kevin McHale was just listed as 6'11" but he was unstoppable in the paint. That was because he had the reach of a player that was 7'2". Also if you look at him you would have noticed he had a very short neck, which would have meant his shoulders were higher on him than a normal 6'11" player. Add longer arms and you have a player who's playing height is actually taller than his listed height.
A taller player with a long neck and alligator arms height would be deceptive. I would add that few players block shorts, rebound or shoot with the top of their heads.
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Howee
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Posted: 11/18/17 1:10 pm ::: |
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I think the old saying applies here: "It ain't the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog".
Nneka is 6'2". She's consistently outplayed many larger posts in her day. Courtney Paris *listed* at 6'4". I don't think she's any more than 6'2", but she holds the NCAA record in double-doubles.
What's an inch or 2 matter, when there's other factors such as reach and jumping ability!?
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tfan
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Posted: 11/18/17 8:28 pm ::: |
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willtalk wrote: |
The height at the top of someones head means little in basketball. They should measure the height of a persons reach. I remember asking a guy who was two inches shorter than I but still was the best rb'er on our team. He asked me to hold up my arm as high as I could and his reach exceeded mine by quite a bit ( and I have long arms). His reach even exceeded a guy who was 5 inches taller than he was. Of course this guy was a freak but it makes a point. Kevin McHale was just listed as 6'11" but he was unstoppable in the paint. That was because he had the reach of a player that was 7'2". Also if you look at him you would have noticed he had a very short neck, which would have meant his shoulders were higher on him than a normal 6'11" player. Add longer arms and you have a player who's playing height is actually taller than his listed height.
A taller player with a long neck and alligator arms height would be deceptive. I would add that few players block shorts, rebound or shoot with the top of their heads. |
I agree. The roster should show "standing reach" and "wingspan", not height. Although they would increase those from their actual values as well.
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 11/18/17 9:02 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
GlennMacGrady wrote: |
Based on this pic, I'd call her 6-3. |
How tall is she based on this picture?
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That depends on how tall LaChina Robinson is compared to the 6'-4.125" Candace Parker
the 6'-3.5" Breanna Stewart
and the 6'-3" Sue Wicks.
Actually, the issue isn't how tall these players are, but the identity of the secret society of height liars who have been fibbing about player heights since the year 1896.875 at Smith College. Who are these perjurers, who's funding them, and what is their corrupt worldwide agenda? |
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Ladyvol777
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Posted: 11/18/17 11:00 pm ::: |
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Not sure about her height, but A'ja Wilson's plays like a seven footer.
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tfan
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Posted: 11/18/17 11:48 pm ::: |
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GlennMacGrady wrote: |
Actually, the issue isn't how tall these players are, but the identity of the secret society of height liars who have been fibbing about player heights since the year 1896.875 at Smith College. Who are these perjurers, who's funding them, and what is their corrupt worldwide agenda? |
I noticed that the "roster height" remains intact even after the NBA combine reveals the lie. For example, Stephan Curry was listed 6'3" in college. At the NBA combine they measured him as 6'1.5"/6.2" (have seen both reported). In the NBA he is listed as 6'3".
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Posted: 11/19/17 10:28 am ::: |
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All those comparison pictures are meaningless because you can't see their footwear.
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Nixtreefan
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Shades
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Posted: 11/19/17 12:24 pm ::: |
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All those comparison pictures are meaningless because you can't see their footwear. |
I brought the only useful picture to the table.... and it was from this summer.
Wilson is even slouching slightly in that picture, so even if you think LaChina Robinson is actually only 6'2, that puts Wilson at 6'4-6'5. Her combination of height, bulk, and skillset makes her the best pro prospect from this senior class.
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 11/19/17 1:01 pm ::: |
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FrozenLVFan wrote: |
All those comparison pictures are meaningless because you can't see their footwear. |
It's not only that but also the lens, the lens-to-subject distance. and the camera angle. Subjects even slightly closer to a wide angle lens will look bigger than subjects slightly more distant. An upward camera angle can exaggerate this. See how much bigger Wilson's head looks than Robinson's, or Robinson's than Beard's, or Prince's than Charles's.
The most accurate picture in my opinion is the 2014 roster picture in the OP. We can't know anyone's absolute height, but the relative heights should be pretty accurate. Wilson could also have grown since that picture.
Here's Wilson on the USAB roster in 2013, seemingly shorter than Agee and Stewart but taller than Turner, and 2015, clearly shorter than Stevens, Anigwe and Cox. |
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tfan
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 11/19/17 4:55 pm ::: |
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I'll repost the 2015 U19 lineup as an inline photo. This was when Wilson was about 19, and she's clearly shorter than Stevens, Anigwe and Cox.
I'm not saying anything about her draft status, just that I don't believe she's 6-5 or probably even a solid 6-4. She's the favorite with Mitchell for college POY this season, and will go first in my opinion in the draft unless Bill for some reason is dying for a scoring guard in Mitchell. |
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