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Stonington_QB
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Posted: 04/05/23 10:17 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Even if he's convicted the next Republican president will pardon him.
There is zero chance of him receiving any meaningful penalty. |
There's zero chance of a conviction.
All of these charges will fail. Even if some end up being appealed.
There's a reason why no one else went forward with these charges.
Don't be surprised when it sets in that Pandora's Box has been opened.
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Howee
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Posted: 04/05/23 10:41 am ::: |
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Stonington_QB wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
Even if he's convicted the next Republican president will pardon him.
There is zero chance of him receiving any meaningful penalty. |
There's zero chance of a conviction.
All of these charges will fail. Even if some end up being appealed.
There's a reason why no one else went forward with these charges.
Don't be surprised when it sets in that Pandora's Box has been opened. |
"Zero chance" may be a bit hyperbolic, but yeah - don't hold your breath, I'd say. I'm still waiting for the (far less debatable) indictments for misdeeds in the GA election.
As I watched a news segment on all this, I'm thinking about how
A: he's already sucked away bazillions of tax $$ for all his extraordinary government benefits (secret service, etc.), and
B: This entire mockery of the legal system is only gonna cost taxpayers MORE bazillions of dollars. I wish some credible organization could keep tabs on how excessive a drain he's been on taxpayer funds, AND MAKE IT A CAMPAIGN TALKING POINT.
C: For more campaign fodder, we ought to utilize his cases to illustrate the gross inequity in our hugely flawed legal system.
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Stonington_QB
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Posted: 04/18/23 12:05 pm ::: |
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linkster wrote: |
Every major leader in the country could be indicted for corruption of some form. Look at SCJ Thomas. Half a million but they were "gifts from friends." And they'll continue to be gifts from friends unless he strays off his mission. I'm of the opinion that no one gets to high office unless they are owned by some vested interest or another. |
That story died once it was pointed out that there was no requirement to report gifts until a very recent change to the guidelines. Essentially a big nothing burger there.
One of the hypocrites pointing the finger at Clarence Thomas for his nonexistent violations was AOC, who recently came under fire for accepting gifts worth tens of thousands of dollars for attending the Met Gala:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2023/03/02/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-likely-violated-ethics-laws-with-met-gala-appearance-says-house-ethics-office/?sh=796f1723693b
These are actual violations of House ethics and federal law. Also, she didn't pay for any of her gifts UNTIL a House investigation was formally opened. This coming after she had illegally funneled PAC money to her boyfriend just a couple of years earlier.
But of course, I don't see anyone here complaining about THAT.
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Howee
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Posted: 04/18/23 1:48 pm ::: |
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Ri-i-i-i-ght. And you shouldn't see that. Apparently you didn't finish reading the article you linked:
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Through a spokesperson, Ocasio-Cortez’s acknowledged the tardy payments but said she didn’t think they constituted a violation of House rules.
“The congresswoman finds these delays unacceptable, and she has taken several steps to ensure nothing of this nature will happen again,” said Communications Director Lauren Hitt in a statement.
“Even after OCE’s exhaustive review of the congresswoman’s personal communications, there is no record of the congresswoman refusing to pay for these expenses,” said Hitt. “To the contrary, there are several explicit, documented communications, from prior to OCE’s review, that show the congresswoman understood that she had to pay for these expenses from her own personal funds—as she ultimately did. We are confident the Ethics Committee will dismiss this matter.” |
Dude, your trolling is getting pretty feeble these days.
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Stonington_QB
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Posted: 04/18/23 4:20 pm ::: |
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Howee wrote: |
Ri-i-i-i-ght. And you shouldn't see that. Apparently you didn't finish reading the article you linked:
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Through a spokesperson, Ocasio-Cortez’s acknowledged the tardy payments but said she didn’t think they constituted a violation of House rules.
“The congresswoman finds these delays unacceptable, and she has taken several steps to ensure nothing of this nature will happen again,” said Communications Director Lauren Hitt in a statement.
“Even after OCE’s exhaustive review of the congresswoman’s personal communications, there is no record of the congresswoman refusing to pay for these expenses,” said Hitt. “To the contrary, there are several explicit, documented communications, from prior to OCE’s review, that show the congresswoman understood that she had to pay for these expenses from her own personal funds—as she ultimately did. We are confident the Ethics Committee will dismiss this matter.” |
Dude, your trolling is getting pretty feeble these days. |
Was there some added value to the story (or your argument) by adding a pull quote from AOC's personal communications director?
In your opinion I'm sure there was. Because as long as she says what AOC did was fine, that's good enough for you.
You know she's still under investigation for that right?
It's not trolling, it's called reality.
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Howee
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Stonington_QB
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Posted: 04/20/23 10:39 am ::: |
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Howee wrote: |
Hey. It was in the article YOU linked. Why didn't YOU value that part of the story YOU put out there? Cuz you simply didn't want to. |
I provided a link to the article. One of many. You can take the comments from her personal spin doctor any way you want to. Most people understand that comments from the accused can be taken with a grain of salt. Not you.
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Your obvious implication is that an apparent misunderstanding over paying for a dress, hair & make-up for ONE EVENT (the payment of which has been rectified) is TOTALLY equivalent to the hundreds of thousands of $$ Clarence Thomass sucked down is, yes, TROLLING in the weakest way. It's not "The True Reality", but "Your Reality". |
The REALITY is that she consulted her own legal counsel who advised her not to take the gifts and she did it anyways. Clarence Thomas took gifts during a time when it wasn't against the rules. I'm sure he's not the only one who did so, but since this shiny object appeared (from a biased source), we're talking about it.
So what you're saying is that it's OK to talk about alleged indiscretions about someone YOU don't like, but as soon as someone you DON'T like points out how someone you happen to follow blindly like a sheep gets caught committing an ACTUAL ethics violation (and a crime), all of a sudden it's "trolling." Sorry but it's not. And it's too fucking bad if you don't like it.
Howee wrote: |
I mean, you can choose to continue to represent the warped *MAGA* perspective here in this little corner of Rebkells - it's a free country - but it's always gonna be met with countless |
Well, guess what? Your little echo chamber over here will never be what it used to be because there's always going to be some fact-checking from a different point of view from now on
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Stonington_QB
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Posted: 04/20/23 4:11 pm ::: |
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You didn't have to say it. It was already implied when you got all butthurt over me pointing out that your little self-serving princess isn't the precious little angel you think she is.
With regards to you getting downright nasty every single time someone says something you disagree with... don't think for a minute I can't respond in kind. We can drag this forum into depths never seen if that's where you really want to take it. Don't think I'm going to put up with your shit for much longer. You want to have a civil discussion then fine, but if all you want to contribute is this nastiness of yours, I can play that game too.
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Posted: 06/08/23 9:26 pm ::: |
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Shit is starting to get real for this dude now
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