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toad455
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Posted: 02/14/20 5:58 pm ::: |
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Sloot/Colson
Quigley/Copper
Deshields/Williams
Stevens/Lavender
Dolson/Ch. Parker
pick 8 and something
It's not a super team but I wouldn't sleep on Chicago they seem pretty deep and flexible if their youth (Deshields, Stevens, Gabby) take another step forward and their star guards and role players do their jobs could be a pretty successful team. |
I'm still thinking they take a post at #8. Both Lavender & Stevens were injured last season.
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Posted: 02/14/20 6:19 pm ::: |
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Stormeo
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Posted: 02/14/20 7:28 pm ::: |
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Well, I did say she needed a fresh start. Hopefully Jamierra can get both her mind and body right this summer. Lord knows she's been through a lot the past 4-5 years since the first ACL tear.
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J-Spoon wrote: |
Sloot/Colson
Quigley/Copper
Deshields/Williams
Stevens/Lavender
Dolson/Ch. Parker
pick 8 and something
It's not a super team but I wouldn't sleep on Chicago they seem pretty deep and flexible if their youth (Deshields, Stevens, Gabby) take another step forward and their star guards and role players do their jobs could be a pretty successful team. |
I'm still thinking they take a post at #8. Both Lavender & Stevens were injured last season. |
At this point, they'll most likely take BPA, which could also be a guard. I have to wonder if Chicago's now done making outside moves and only going to be doing re-signings until the draft. I still don't foresee Chicago taking a step forward in 2020, but maybe Stevens replacing Ndour + an actually useful first-round pick does the trick.
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bballjunkie
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Posted: 02/14/20 9:49 pm ::: |
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+1 + 1 They had 3 All stars last year and didn’t make the final four in a down year 🤷♀️
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WNBA 09
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ChiSky54
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Silky Johnson
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Posted: 02/14/20 10:47 pm ::: |
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ChiSky54 wrote: |
There were rumors that they hoped she would be the next GWH. They picked her to have a custom "Katie Lou Who?" t-shirt (is that a UConn thing or jut an attempt to be cute?) |
Isn't that a Dr. Seuss reference?
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Richyyy
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Posted: 02/15/20 10:02 am ::: |
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ChiSky54 wrote: |
Okay...I'm confused
What does Phoenix's pick have to do with the Dallas pick the Sky included in the deal? Maybe I'm just having a brain fart. |
Chicago got Phoenix's 2021 1st from Dallas in the Ndour deal, then sent their own 2021 1st to Dallas in the Samuelson/Stevens deal. So 2021 1sts basically went in both directions between the same teams, but they were different picks. Hence the comparison. So it's especially in their interest to be better than Phoenix in the 2020 season. |
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ChiSky54
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Posted: 02/15/20 10:42 am ::: |
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Ah, okay--thanks!
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bballjunkie
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Posted: 02/15/20 11:05 am ::: |
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James you really trying to make yourself something huh 🙄
This place is becoming the boneyard coaches should focus on their teams and not their egos.
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myrtle
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Posted: 02/15/20 1:35 pm ::: |
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ChiSky54 wrote: |
It's a shame actually that KLS didn't work out based on Wade's explanation in May on why he picked her:
...Wade envisioned her playing either role in the pick-and-roll and fitting in anywhere from 2 to 4 on the floor.
"She gives us an added dimension we didn't have," Wade says. "I felt like if we had taken a player from another position, it would have been a position we had. It probably would have stunted the growth of that young player. In order for all our players to grow, including her, she was the best fit."...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2837407-katie-lou-samuelson-has-some-unfinished-business
So clearly things went south in light of how it ended so abruptly. |
I think this just looks like he's trying to justify picking her, not that he was so hot to have her.
At any rate, I think you should be pleased to get Azure.
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Iluvacc
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Posted: 02/15/20 1:57 pm ::: |
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ChiSky54 wrote: |
even though it was kinda harsh how she was traded without her knowledge, I think it was the right move. |
Yikes! Never a good feeling I can assume
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Silky Johnson
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Posted: 02/15/20 4:47 pm ::: |
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ChiSky54 wrote: |
Re: KLS' t-shirt, I found this reference from this website that does custom shirts https://breakingt.com/products/katie-lou-who
Who is Chicago's next great athlete? Katie Lou Samuelson of course.
Cindy Lou Who was in Dr. Seuss, but it still may have been a play on that. |
"May have been"? You can't possibly think that it was entirely a coincidence, can you?
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mavcarter #NATC
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Posted: 02/16/20 1:41 pm ::: |
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Two years, $165,000 apiece, full protection for @kahleahcopper, I can report. #WNBAFreeAgency Nice upside value on that one, @coachjameswade |
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Richyyy
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Posted: 02/16/20 2:13 pm ::: |
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Alternate perspective :
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@RichardCohen1
If Player X has had 4yrs to prove herself, stayed healthy, and consistently only earned 15mpg while shooting 41% for 7p/2r/1a and a PER of 11 - *and* your team already has a star at her natural spot- how excited are you to keep her at approaching max money? #wnba #WNBAFreeAgency |
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mavcarter #NATC
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 02/16/20 2:46 pm ::: |
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It is also possible other teams were offering her something similar so her agent said something like "copper wants to stay in Chicago were getting some offers around 175k what can you do since she would rather not sign an offer sheet if Chicago will come correct with a decent offer "
Maybe Chicago threatens to match and say go ahead sign an offer sheet or maybe Chicago just puts up a decent offer but saves 20k below max.
There was a report that multiple teams were interested.I am sure if you extrapolate Coppers numbers out to 30 minutes they look ok and she is a good defender and a good fit in Chicago and a nice counter point to Quiglry at the 2 spot
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Richyyy
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Posted: 02/16/20 4:17 pm ::: |
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Yeah, I'm by no means saying that it can't work out. She's still still young, and she and DeShields could easily play on the perimeter next to each other (and Quigley has to age out at some point). She's certainly got the physical tools. Just pointing out that the love for her in some places isn't really warranted by the production in her first four seasons (which is a pretty significant sample size, as these things go).
Also, when reports come out that "hundreds of teams are fighting over Free Agent X!" it's always worth remembering that the source is often that player's agent. That said, if Copper can at least continue to look like she might break out with more opportunity, signing her could have value as a trade piece. |
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