RebKell's Junkie Boards
Board Junkies Forums
 
Log in Register FAQ Memberlist Search RebKell's Junkie Boards Forum Index

Women are stealing the show during March Madness...

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    RebKell's Junkie Boards Forum Index » NCAA Women's Basketball - General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
pilight



Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 66773
Location: Where the action is


Back to top
PostPosted: 03/24/17 2:08 pm    ::: Women are stealing the show during March Madness... Reply Reply with quote

...but the NCAA continues to neglect them

https://thinkprogress.org/march-madness-is-a-billion-dollar-spectacle-so-why-isnt-there-more-room-for-the-women-3774667c35df#.3c1l244xv

Quote:
This year alone, two double-digit seeds (№ 12 Quinnipiac and № 10 Oregon) made it to the Sweet 16 (only one on the men’s side), and there were nine games decided by one possession, compared to only seven in the men’s opening weekend. And still, there were those complaining about the lack of competitiveness in the women’s game.



_________________
Let us not deceive ourselves. Our educational institutions have proven to be no bastions of democracy.
ArtBest23



Joined: 02 Jul 2013
Posts: 14550



Back to top
PostPosted: 03/24/17 3:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Great example of cherry picking a couple facts to try to make a dubious point.

Probably more relevant is that all four 1s and three 2s are alive on the women's side while the men have lost a 1 and three 2s, and that at the sweet sixteen, the men have a region made up of the 3,4,7,8 teams. The women have nothing close to that. Of course those facts would have manifested the absurdity of her thesis.


PUmatty



Joined: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 16346
Location: Chicago


Back to top
PostPosted: 03/24/17 4:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Great example of cherry picking a couple facts to try to make a dubious point.

Probably more relevant is that all four 1s and three 2s are alive on the women's side while the men have lost a 1 and three 2s, and that at the sweet sixteen, the men have a region made up of the 3,4,7,8 teams. The women have nothing close to that. Of course those facts would have manifested the absurdity of her thesis.


So, the women's tournament is doing a better job of identifying the best teams. It always seems to be that should be the ultimate goal of the tournament.


pilight



Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 66773
Location: Where the action is


Back to top
PostPosted: 03/24/17 4:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Great example of cherry picking a couple facts to try to make a dubious point.

Probably more relevant is that all four 1s and three 2s are alive on the women's side while the men have lost a 1 and three 2s, and that at the sweet sixteen, the men have a region made up of the 3,4,7,8 teams. The women have nothing close to that. Of course those facts would have manifested the absurdity of her thesis.


One of the 2s the men lost made it to the S16, a round that hasn't started for the women.



_________________
Let us not deceive ourselves. Our educational institutions have proven to be no bastions of democracy.
ArtBest23



Joined: 02 Jul 2013
Posts: 14550



Back to top
PostPosted: 03/24/17 4:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Great example of cherry picking a couple facts to try to make a dubious point.

Probably more relevant is that all four 1s and three 2s are alive on the women's side while the men have lost a 1 and three 2s, and that at the sweet sixteen, the men have a region made up of the 3,4,7,8 teams. The women have nothing close to that. Of course those facts would have manifested the absurdity of her thesis.


So, the women's tournament is doing a better job of identifying the best teams. It always seems to be that should be the ultimate goal of the tournament.


Maybe, but the premise of the article is that the women's tourney has had more upsets and close games and thus is more entertaining than the men. That premise is untrue. You can say chalk is a result of "better job of identifying the best teams" but more likely it's simply more stratified and predictable.


ArtBest23



Joined: 02 Jul 2013
Posts: 14550



Back to top
PostPosted: 03/24/17 4:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Great example of cherry picking a couple facts to try to make a dubious point.

Probably more relevant is that all four 1s and three 2s are alive on the women's side while the men have lost a 1 and three 2s, and that at the sweet sixteen, the men have a region made up of the 3,4,7,8 teams. The women have nothing close to that. Of course those facts would have manifested the absurdity of her thesis.


One of the 2s the men lost made it to the S16, a round that hasn't started for the women.


Doesn't change anything. Point out the sweet sixteen region that is close to having the 3,4,7 and 8 teams.


cthskzfn



Joined: 21 Nov 2004
Posts: 12851
Location: In a world where a PSYCHOpath like Trump isn't potus.


Back to top
PostPosted: 03/24/17 5:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Is the women's tournament having more good games in the first 2 rounds than ever before?

Seems like an indication that the talent pool is beginning to expand.



_________________
Silly, stupid white people might be waking up.
tfan



Joined: 31 May 2010
Posts: 9543



Back to top
PostPosted: 03/24/17 6:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Great example of cherry picking a couple facts to try to make a dubious point.

Probably more relevant is that all four 1s and three 2s are alive on the women's side while the men have lost a 1 and three 2s, and that at the sweet sixteen, the men have a region made up of the 3,4,7,8 teams. The women have nothing close to that. Of course those facts would have manifested the absurdity of her thesis.


So, the women's tournament is doing a better job of identifying the best teams. It always seems to be that should be the ultimate goal of the tournament.


That's one possible explanation. Another is that in the women's game the 1 and 2 seeds are further away from the lower seeds in terms of ability, making upsets much harder. Or, the seeds in the women's tournament are more accurate because there is greater disparity between the top teams and the lower seeds than in the men's game.




Last edited by tfan on 03/24/17 10:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
pilight



Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 66773
Location: Where the action is


Back to top
PostPosted: 03/24/17 10:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The men's tournament was so badly mis-seeded that vegas had a #12 seed favored over a #5 in round one. And yes, the #12 seed won and covered the spread.



_________________
Let us not deceive ourselves. Our educational institutions have proven to be no bastions of democracy.
SpaceJunkie



Joined: 10 Sep 2012
Posts: 4241
Location: Minnesota


Back to top
PostPosted: 03/24/17 10:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
The men's tournament was so badly mis-seeded that vegas had a #12 seed favored over a #5 in round one. And yes, the #12 seed won and covered the spread.


Stop reminding me about my team. Razz


FrozenLVFan



Joined: 08 Jul 2014
Posts: 3510



Back to top
PostPosted: 03/25/17 9:43 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Why did anyone expect a writer for a political blog to say anything worthwhile about a women's basketball tournament? Look at the other stuff she's written...she cherry picks a bunch of tweets and makes a story around them. Consider the source and move on.


Carol Anne



Joined: 09 Apr 2005
Posts: 1739
Location: Seattle


Back to top
PostPosted: 03/25/17 11:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
Why did anyone expect a writer for a political blog to say anything worthwhile about a women's basketball tournament? Look at the other stuff she's written...she cherry picks a bunch of tweets and makes a story around them. Consider the source and move on.

True. Every year a few writers suddenly discover women's basketball and write half-assed articles about it. Thank goodness for Voepel, Feinberg, etc.


kool-aide



Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Posts: 1650



Back to top
PostPosted: 03/25/17 1:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
Why did anyone expect a writer for a political blog to say anything worthwhile about a women's basketball tournament?


She's a sports reporter. Has written about sports in various places for multiple years.


Ex-Ref



Joined: 04 Oct 2009
Posts: 8834



Back to top
PostPosted: 03/28/17 12:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Quote:
But on the NCAA website, with the exception of a link to box scores, this news can’t be found until you scroll down a bit on the homepage page. Which is far better than it was on Monday, when the only mention of the women’s tournament was next to a story about fencing at the very bottom of the front page (no offense to fencing enthusiasts here).




http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/03/ncaa-website-south-carolina-uconn-mississippi-state-stanford-final-four



_________________
"Women are judged on their success, men on their potential. It’s time we started believing in the potential of women." —Muffet McGraw

“Thank you for showing the fellas that you've got more balls than them,” Haley said, to cheers from the crowd.
Carol Anne



Joined: 09 Apr 2005
Posts: 1739
Location: Seattle


Back to top
PostPosted: 03/28/17 3:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/846795541182844928

Good news! Very Happy


Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    RebKell's Junkie Boards Forum Index » NCAA Women's Basketball - General Discussion All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2.0.17 © 2001- 2004 phpBB Group
phpBB Template by Vjacheslav Trushkin