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PostPosted: 11/19/16 4:44 pm    ::: Top 20 RPI Reply Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11/19/16 7:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It amazes me that UConn can attain a strong enough OOC schedule to compensate for the AAC and end up with a #1 SOS.


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PostPosted: 11/19/16 7:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
It amazes me that UConn can attain a strong enough OOC schedule to compensate for the AAC and end up with a #1 SOS.


They probably won't be #1 in SOS at the end of the season



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PostPosted: 11/19/16 9:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
FrozenLVFan wrote:
It amazes me that UConn can attain a strong enough OOC schedule to compensate for the AAC and end up with a #1 SOS.


They probably won't be #1 in SOS at the end of the season


Probably not. But they have ended up as No 1 SOS on the Massey site. That's because Massey overweights games against elite level teams.


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PostPosted: 11/20/16 1:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Am I blind - no Baylor?


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PostPosted: 11/20/16 2:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

RPI rankings in the early portions of a season is just like a baseball hitter's batting average early in a season: when he's only played a handful of games, going 2 of 4 or 3 of 5, or 0 of 5 can cause his batting average to jump up or drop down by huge amounts. But once he's gotten hundreds of at-bats under his belt, going 0 of 5 or 3 of 5 will make a very small impact to his average.

Right now teams RPI is jumping up and down by substantial numbers just because the overall sample size is small for not just the teams that they play, but also for the teams that those teams have played as well. Once teams have played 10-15 games, RPIs will start settle down: teams in the Power 5 conferences should see their RPIs rise as conference season begins, and teams out of them should see them drop....


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PostPosted: 11/20/16 7:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

romath wrote:
Am I blind - no Baylor?


Playing Houston Baptist really hurts your RPI. I believe they're still winless. But these early RPI ratings are completely worthless. Baylor's schedule has been very challenging thus far (UConn, UCLA, and Houston Baptist), but the 0-3 for Houston Baptist Huskies hurts.


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PostPosted: 11/20/16 11:15 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Playing Houston Baptist really hurts your RPI. I believe they're still winless. But these early RPI ratings are completely worthless. Baylor's schedule has been very challenging thus far (UConn, UCLA, and Houston Baptist), but the 0-3 for Houston Baptist Huskies hurts.


So what games helped New Mexico's RPI enough to get them on this list?


Buffalo plays no one. Kent St plays no one except Baylor. But Buffalo and Kent St do play each other. I guess that's enough to put them both on this list. Shocked


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Buffalo plays no one. Kent St plays no one except Baylor. But Buffalo and Kent St do play each other. I guess that's enough to put them both on this list. Shocked


That's because only 2-3 games have been played per team. By the halfway through the season, the RPI will look a lot more reliable. Right now, it's completely worthless.


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PostPosted: 11/20/16 12:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
Fighting Artichoke wrote:
Playing Houston Baptist really hurts your RPI. I believe they're still winless. But these early RPI ratings are completely worthless. Baylor's schedule has been very challenging thus far (UConn, UCLA, and Houston Baptist), but the 0-3 for Houston Baptist Huskies hurts.


So what games helped New Mexico's RPI enough to get them on this list?


Because NM is 2-0 and the two teams they have played have won all their games except their games against NM,. That's basically why.

The baseball analogy above is very apt. If Bryce Harper went 0-6 the first two games of the season, he'd be tied for last in hitting. And if you asked "where's Harper on the hitting rankings" the correct answer would be " check back 100 games from now"

Statistics are meaningless when the sample size is too small.


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PostPosted: 11/20/16 3:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Where's the rest of the list? JMU ought to be up there somewhere. They played Tennessee already, and FSU, Iowa, and Idaho are still to come, which are not *that* horrible.



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PostPosted: 11/20/16 3:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
Where's the rest of the list? JMU ought to be up there somewhere. They played Tennessee already, and FSU, Iowa, and Idaho are still to come, which are not *that* horrible.


The RPI only counts games already played. The stat is useless this early in the season.


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Other than Marquette bolting to the top 10, weird movement today



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Which site are you using, Shades?


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Minnesota dropped like a rock after the loss to FSU, but they still have the #2 SOS.



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