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PostPosted: 02/23/16 3:22 am    ::: Pac-12 Tournament Reply Reply with quote

Going into the last weekend of the Pac-12 regular season, no school has their seed locked up. The top 4 seeds are guaranteed to go to Oregon State, Arizona State, UCLA and Stanford, but the teams have some work to do to secure their seeding.

Potential seeds:

Oregon State 1 or 2

Arizona State 1 or 2

UCLA 3 or 4

Stanford 3 or 4

Oregon 5 or 6

Washington 5, 6 or 7

Utah 6, 7 or 8

USC 7 or 8

Washington State 9 or 10

California 9, 10, 11 or 12

Arizona 10, 11 or 12

Colorado 11 or 12

If the Tournament Started today here is how the bracket would look:

Day 1:
5 Oregon vs 12 Colorado

8 USC vs 9 Washington State

6 Washington vs 11 Arizona

7 Utah vs 10 California

Day 2:
5 Oregon/12 Colorado vs Stanford

8 USC/9 Washington State vs Oregon State

6 Washington/11 Arizona vs UCLA

7 Utah/10 California vs Arizona State

Below is the remaining Pac-12 Schedule (PT):
Thursday, 2/25
Utah at Washington 7:00pm
Colorado at Washington State 7:00pm

Friday, 2/26
Arizona State at USC 6:00pm
Oregon at California 7:00pm
Oregon State at Stanford 8:00pm
Arizona at UCLA 8:00pm

Saturday, 2/27
Utah at Washington State 11:00am
Colorado at Washington 1:00pm

Sunday 2/28
Oregon State at California 11:00am
Oregon at Stanford 11:00am
Arizona State at UCLA 11:00am
Arizona at USC 2:00pm

Edited to adjust seedings




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PostPosted: 02/23/16 3:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Tiebreakers:

2 teams:
1. Head to head
2. Record vs teams starting with #1 and moving down
3. Win-Loss percentage against all Division 1 opponents
4. Coin toss conducted by Commissioner or designee

More than 2 teams: - If at any point multiple teams gets down to 2, the 2 team tiebreaker is used
1. Head to head record among all tied teams
2. Record vs teams starting with #1 and moving down
3. Win-Loss percentage against all Division 1 opponents
4. Coin toss conducted by Commissioner or designee

Here are some tiebreakers, assuming some wins/losses on the final weekend which would result in the tie

If tied Oregon State holds the tiebreaker over Arizona State

If tied UCLA holds the tiebreaker over Stanford

If tied Oregon holds tiebreaker over Washington

If tied Utah holds tiebreaker over Washington

If there is a 3 way tie Oregon holds the tiebreaker

Then Utah holds tiebreaker over Washington

If tied USC holds the tiebreaker over Utah

If tied USC holds the tiebreaker over Washington State

If tied Arizona holds tiebreaker over Colorado

If there is a 3 way tie Arizona holds tiebreaker over California and Colorado

Then Colorado holds the tiebreaker over California

If there is a 4 way tie Washington State holds the tiebreaker over California, Arizona and Colorado – then the same applies as a 3 way time between the 3 schools as listed above

If there is a 3 way tie Washington State holds the tiebreaker over Arizona and Colorado, then same 2 team tiebreaker as listed above


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PostPosted: 02/23/16 8:56 am    ::: Re: Pac-12 Tournament Reply Reply with quote

GEF34 wrote:
Going into the last weekend of the Pac-12 regular season, only 1 school has their seed locked up. The top 4 seeds are guaranteed to go to Oregon State, Arizona State, UCLA and Stanford, but the teams have some work to do to secure their seeding.

Locked Up Seed:

5 Oregon


How do you figure Oregon has the 5th seed locked up? Both Oregon and Washington are currently tied for 5th at identical 9-7 conference records. Oregon may possess the tiebreaker over the Huskies, but with a weekend still to play, it seems feasible that, say, the Huskies may sweep the Colorado/Utah schools (at home) and Oregon may drop one of the Bay Area matchups, very possibly Stanford (in NorCal). If that were to happen, Washington would finish in 5th (at 11-7) and Oregon would finish in 6h (at 10-8 ).

Am I missing something?


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PostPosted: 02/23/16 11:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Thanks GEF, but now my head is spinning! Wink Which way is up?



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PostPosted: 02/23/16 1:16 pm    ::: Re: Pac-12 Tournament Reply Reply with quote

patsweetpat wrote:
GEF34 wrote:
Going into the last weekend of the Pac-12 regular season, only 1 school has their seed locked up. The top 4 seeds are guaranteed to go to Oregon State, Arizona State, UCLA and Stanford, but the teams have some work to do to secure their seeding.

Locked Up Seed:

5 Oregon


How do you figure Oregon has the 5th seed locked up? Both Oregon and Washington are currently tied for 5th at identical 9-7 conference records. Oregon may possess the tiebreaker over the Huskies, but with a weekend still to play, it seems feasible that, say, the Huskies may sweep the Colorado/Utah schools (at home) and Oregon may drop one of the Bay Area matchups, very possibly Stanford (in NorCal). If that were to happen, Washington would finish in 5th (at 11-7) and Oregon would finish in 6h (at 10-8 ).

Am I missing something?


No not missing anything, that was a mistake and has been edited above.


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PostPosted: 02/23/16 1:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Thanks GEF, but now my head is spinning! Wink Which way is up?


You're welcome! And yea looking at the standing and all the tiebreakers is really crazy, as pointed out by patsweetpat, not one team has a seed locked up, I can't recall a time when a conference went into the last weekend without knowing at least 1 seed.


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PostPosted: 02/23/16 2:02 pm    ::: Re: Pac-12 Tournament Reply Reply with quote

GEF34 wrote:
patsweetpat wrote:
GEF34 wrote:
Going into the last weekend of the Pac-12 regular season, only 1 school has their seed locked up. The top 4 seeds are guaranteed to go to Oregon State, Arizona State, UCLA and Stanford, but the teams have some work to do to secure their seeding.

Locked Up Seed:

5 Oregon


How do you figure Oregon has the 5th seed locked up? Both Oregon and Washington are currently tied for 5th at identical 9-7 conference records. Oregon may possess the tiebreaker over the Huskies, but with a weekend still to play, it seems feasible that, say, the Huskies may sweep the Colorado/Utah schools (at home) and Oregon may drop one of the Bay Area matchups, very possibly Stanford (in NorCal). If that were to happen, Washington would finish in 5th (at 11-7) and Oregon would finish in 6h (at 10-8 ).

Am I missing something?


No not missing anything, that was a mistake and has been edited above.


Okay. Thanks for doing all this work!


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PostPosted: 02/27/16 3:41 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Going into the final 2 days of the regular season, here is updated information.

Potential seeds:

Oregon State 1 or 2

Arizona State 1 or 2

UCLA 3 or 4

Stanford 3 or 4

Oregon 5 or 6

Washington 5 or 6

Utah 7 or 8

USC 7 or 8

Washington State 9 or 10

California 9 or 10

Arizona 11 or 12

Colorado 11 or 12

If the Tournament Started today here is how the bracket would look:

Day 1:
5 Washington vs 12 Colorado

8 USC vs 9 Washington State

6 Oregon vs 11 Arizona

7 Utah vs 10 California

Day 2:
5 Washington/12 Colorado vs 4 Stanford

8 USC/9 Washington State vs 1 Arizona State

6 Oregon/11 Arizona vs 3 UCLA

7 Utah/10 California vs 2 Oregon State

Results:
Thursday, 2/25
Washington 73 Utah 60
Washington State 83 Colorado 70

Friday, 2/26
Arizona State 50 USC 45
California 65 Oregon 54
Stanford 76 Oregon State 54
UCLA 80 Arizona 53

Below is the remaining Pac-12 Schedule (PT):
Saturday, 2/27
Utah at Washington State 11:00am
Colorado at Washington 1:00pm

Sunday 2/28
Oregon State at California 11:00am
Oregon at Stanford 11:00am
Arizona State at UCLA 11:00am
Arizona at USC 2:00pm

Here are some tiebreakers, assuming some wins/losses on the final day which would result in the tie

If tied Oregon State holds the tiebreaker over Arizona State

If tied UCLA holds the tiebreaker over Stanford

If tied Oregon holds tiebreaker over Washington

If tied USC holds the tiebreaker over Utah

If tied USC holds the tiebreaker over Washington State

If tied Arizona holds tiebreaker over Colorado


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PostPosted: 02/27/16 5:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GEF34 wrote:

If the Tournament Started today here is how the bracket would look:
7 Utah vs 10 California


Oh, no.

I'm rooting for whatever has to happen Sunday to change this pairing.


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PostPosted: 02/27/16 2:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Jillian Alleyne tore her ACL in practice, and Oregon promptly got clocked by Cal.

It's going to be very hard for the Ducks now, and of course it's very sad for Alleyne, who will miss her first year in the WNBA and maybe a season in Europe.



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PostPosted: 02/27/16 3:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
Jillian Alleyne tore her ACL in practice, and Oregon promptly got clocked by Cal.

It's going to be very hard for the Ducks now, and of course it's very sad for Alleyne, who will miss her first year in the WNBA and maybe a season in Europe.


Without Alleyne, Oregon is just dead in the water. She is the center of the universe for them. So sad for her and for her team, Crying or Very sad



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PostPosted: 02/28/16 10:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

And here's your tourney bracket.

Let's go, Bruins!!!



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PostPosted: 03/01/16 1:46 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Here is a wrap up of the Pac-12 season, leading into the Pac-12 Tournament.


Results:
Saturday, 2/27
Utah 75 Washington State 69
Washington 68 Colorado 47

Sunday 2/28
Oregon State 54 California 44
Stanford 69 Oregon 42
UCLA 74 Arizona State 61
Arizona 63 USC 56

Final Standings:
1. Arizona State 16-2
1. Oregon State 16-2
3. Stanford 14-4
3. UCLA 14-4
5. Washington 11-7
6. Oregon 9-9
7. Utah 8-10
8. USC 6-12
9. Washington State 5-13
10. California 4-14
11. Arizona 3-15
12. Colorado 2-16

A bit surprising in there were only 2 ties in the standings, considering not a single team had a seed locked up going in the final weekend, as patsweetpat has already the bracket, I will post the info regarding the tiebreakers.

Arizona State and Oregon State finished as co-champions, but Oregon State received the #1 seed in the tournament because of their 67-44 win over Arizona State on February 1 in their only meeting of the season.

Stanford and UCLA finished tied for 3rd place, but UCLA received the #3 seed in the tournament because of their 56-36 win over Stanford on January 24 in their only meeting of the season.

Congrats to both Arizona State and Oregon State on their Pac-12 Regular Season titles and good luck to all in the Pac-12 Tournament!


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PostPosted: 03/01/16 2:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

With the final Pac-12 Weekly honors being handed out today, here is a complete list from the season.

Player of the Week
November 16 - Courtney Range, California
November 23 - Jordin Canada, UCLA
November 30 - Lili Thompson, Stanford
December 7 - Jillian Alleyne, Oregon
December 14 - Emily Potter, Utah
December 21 - Lili Thompson, Stanford
December 28 - Arnecia Hawkins, Arizona State
January 4 - Nirra Fields, UCLA
January 11 - Temi Fagbenle, USC
January 18 - Kesley Plum, Washington
January 25 - Jillian Alleyne, Oregon
February 1 - Lili Thompson, Stanford
February 8 - Jamie Weisner, Oregon State
February 15 - Jillian Alleyne, Oregon
February 22 - Jamie Weisner, Oregon State
February 29 - Erica McCall, Stanford

Freshman of the Week
November 16 - Kristine Anigwe, California
November 23 - Borislava Hristova, Washington State
November 30 - Kristine Anigwe, California
December 7 - Kristine Anigwe, California
December 14 - Kristine Anigwe, California
December 21 - Maite Cazorla, Oregon
December 28 - Kristine Anigwe, California
January 4 - Kristine Anigwe, California
January 11 - Kristine Anigwe, California
January 18 - Borislava Hristova, Washington State
January 25 - Borislava Hristova, Washington State
February 1 - Maite Cazorla, Oregon
February 8 - Maite Cazorla, Oregon
February 15 - Maite Cazorla, Oregon
February 22 - Kennedy Leonard, Colorado
February 29 - Kristine Anigwe, California

http://pac-12.com/article/2016/02/29/pac-12-announces-womens-basketball-players-week


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PostPosted: 03/01/16 2:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Here is the complete list of Pac-12 award winners.

Pac-12 Player of the Year: Jamie Weisner, Oregon State

Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year: Ruth Hamblin, Oregon State

Pac-12 Freshman of the Year: Kristine Anigwe, California

Pac-12 Scholar-Athlete of the Year: Ruth Hamblin, Oregon State

John R. Wooden Pac-12 Coach of the Year: Charli Turner Thorne, Arizona State

All-Pac-12 Team:
Jillian Alleyne, Oregon
Kristine Anigwe, California
Sophie Brunner, Arizona State
Jordin Canada, UCLA
Elisha Davis, Arizona State
Temi Fagbenle, USC
Nirra Fields, UCLA
Ruth Hamblin, Oregon State
Katie Hempen, Arizona State
Erica McCall, Stanford
Kelsey Plum, Washington
Emily Potter, Utah
Lili Thompson, Stanford
Jamie Weisner, Oregon State
Sydney Wiese, Oregon State

All-Defensive Team:
Jillian Alleyne, Oregon
Jordin Canada, UCLA
Elisha Davis, Arizona State
Ruth Hamblin, Oregon State
Erica McCall, Stanford

All-Freshmen Team:
Kristine Anigwe, California
Kennedy Burke, UCLA
Maite Cazorla, Oregon
Borislava Hristova, Washington State
Kennedy Leonard, Colorado

http://pac-12.com/article/2016/02/29/pac-12-announces-women%E2%80%99s-basketball-honors

http://pac-12.com/article/2016/02/29/pac-12-announces-womens-basketball-all-conference-honors

Congrats to all the award winners!!


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PostPosted: 03/04/16 1:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Here is the complete list of Pac-12 Media award winners announced yesterday.

Pac-12 Player of the Year: Jillian Alleyne, Oregon, Jamie Weisner, Oregon State

Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year: Ruth Hamblin, Oregon State

Pac-12 Freshman of the Year: Kristine Anigwe, California

John R. Wooden Pac-12 Coach of the Year: Charli Turner Thorne, Arizona State

All-Pac-12 Team:
Jillian Alleyne, Oregon
Kristine Anigwe, California
Sophie Brunner, Arizona State
Jordin Canada, UCLA
Temi Fagbenle, USC
Nirra Fields, UCLA
Ruth Hamblin, Oregon State
Borislava Hristova, Washington State
Erica McCall, Stanford
Kelsey Plum, Washington
Emily Potter, Utah
Lili Thompson, Stanford
Talia Walton, Washington
Jamie Weisner, Oregon State
Sydney Wiese, Oregon State

All-Defensive Team:
Jillian Alleyne, Oregon
Jordin Canada, UCLA
Elisha Davis, Arizona State
Ruth Hamblin, Oregon State
Erica McCall, Stanford

All-Freshmen Team:
Kristine Anigwe, California
Maite Cazorla, Oregon
Borislava Hristova, Washington State
Kennedy Leonard, Colorado

http://pac-12.com/article/2016/03/02/media-votes-alleyne-weisner-players-year

Congrats to all the award winners!!


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PostPosted: 03/04/16 2:05 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Here is a link to the main tournament page
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/womens-basketball-tournament

Day 1 Recap:

Game 1:
#10 California 66 #7 Utah 63 (OT)
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/event/2016/03/03/california-vs-utah

Game 2:
#11 Arizona 74 #6 Oregon 68
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/event/2016/03/03/arizona-vs-oregon

Game 3:
#8 USC 77 #9 Washington State 73
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/event/2016/03/03/washington-state-vs-usc

Game 4:
#5 Washington 67 #12 Colorado 51
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/event/2016/03/03/colorado-washington

Day 2:
Game 5:
#2 Arizona State vs #10 California 11:30am PT

Game 6:
#3 UCLA vs #11 Arizona 2:00pm PT

Game 7:
#1 Oregon State vs #8 USC 6:00pm PT

Game 8:
#4 Stanford vs #5 Washington 8:30pm PT


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PostPosted: 03/04/16 2:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's kind of a cop-out to not split the teams into three parts. It's like no child left behind... But still interesting to see the differences in the teams. Glad to see Alleyne recognized by the media and kind of astonished that Weisner got that much love, though I think she deserved it in conference play.



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Day 2:
Game 5:
#10 California 75 #2 Arizona State 64
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/event/2016/03/04/california-vs-arizona-state

Game 6:
#3 UCLA 72 #11 Arizona 51
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/event/2016/03/04/arizona-vs-ucla

Game 7:
#1 Oregon State 63 #8 USC 53
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/event/2016/03/04/usc-vs-oregon-state

Game 8:
#5 Washington 73 #4 Stanford 65
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/event/2016/03/04/washington-vs-stanford

Day 3:
Game 9:
#3 UCLA vs #10 California 6:00pm PT

Game 10:
#1 Oregon State vs #5 Washington 8:30pm PT


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PostPosted: 03/06/16 5:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Day 3:
Game 9:
#3 UCLA 73 #10 California 67 (OT)
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/event/2016/03/05/california-vs-ucla

Game 10:
#1 Oregon State 57 #5 Washington 55
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/event/2016/03/05/washington-vs-oregon-state

Day 4:
Game 11:
#1 Oregon State vs #3 UCLA 6:00pm PT


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PostPosted: 03/06/16 1:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Oregon State-UCLA title game proof of Pac-12's new power

http://espn.go.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14911984/oregon-state-ucla-title-game-proof-pac-12-new-power


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The Pac-12 women's tournament will be staying in Seattle for the next 3 years. There had been talk of moving it to Las Vegas with the men's tournament, but instead, they never even opened it up for bid, just renewed with Force 10, the owners of the Storm.

Attendance has been pretty good this year. The advantage of Seattle is that it's within driving distance for four teams, and a short flight from the Bay Area. Oregon State fans have really showed up in force the last couple of years. Stanford turnout was down a bit this year, but still good, and despite the difficult season, Cal had a good number of fans. UW and wsU both showed well, too, and the SoCal schools.

One factor that may limit local attendance among local high school players is that the women's tournament is held the same weekend as high school state championships. I doubt either group will change weekends, so that's just always going to be a factor. High school hoops is pretty big in Seattle; Stanford-commit Anna Wilson's Bellevue team beat Oregon State-commit Mikayla Pivec's Lynnwood in the semifinals on Friday. I'm betting that both girls and probably some teammates would have been at the Pac-12 tournament had they not been busy in Tacoma.

(Bellevue won the state championship and Lynnwood won the 3rd place game.)


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PostPosted: 03/07/16 3:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Most Outstanding Player: Jamie Weisner, Oregon State**
All-Tournament Team:
Kristine Anigwe, California*
Jordin Canada, UCLA*
Ruth Hamblin, Oregon State* (also on 2014 team)
Kelsey Plum, Washington*
Jamie Weisner, Oregon State**
Sydney Wiese, Oregon State* (also on 2014 team)

*Also First Team, All-Pac-12
**Also Co-Player of the Year and First Team, All-Pac-12

This year marks the first time since the tournament began in 2002 that a player from Stanford was not on the All-Tournament Team


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PostPosted: 03/07/16 10:17 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

congrats to all the P12 teams and players and especially to the all-tourney girls. It was definitely an entertaining tournament. (sad about Stanford, but all things change)



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snichols wrote:
The Pac-12 women's tournament will be staying in Seattle for the next 3 years. There had been talk of moving it to Las Vegas with the men's tournament, but instead, they never even opened it up for bid, just renewed with Force 10, the owners of the Storm.

Attendance has been pretty good this year. The advantage of Seattle is that it's within driving distance for four teams, and a short flight from the Bay Area. Oregon State fans have really showed up in force the last couple of years. Stanford turnout was down a bit this year, but still good, and despite the difficult season, Cal had a good number of fans. UW and wsU both showed well, too, and the SoCal schools.

One factor that may limit local attendance among local high school players is that the women's tournament is held the same weekend as high school state championships. I doubt either group will change weekends, so that's just always going to be a factor. High school hoops is pretty big in Seattle; Stanford-commit Anna Wilson's Bellevue team beat Oregon State-commit Mikayla Pivec's Lynnwood in the semifinals on Friday. I'm betting that both girls and probably some teammates would have been at the Pac-12 tournament had they not been busy in Tacoma.

(Bellevue won the state championship and Lynnwood won the 3rd place game.)


In general, high school girls are not big sports fans, and only a few were playing. Now you may lose a few hundred fans, but I don't think that's a major hit.



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