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| Posted: 09/29/15 1:40 am ::: |
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| Horrible horrible news!! It's always sad to see a player have such an injury, I wish her the best in her recovery.
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Really lousy news. Not that you want it to happen to anyone, but the impact is just that much more painful when it's someone as good as her.
Here's to a full recovery and to the rest of the Dukes filling her shoes.
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| Posted: 09/29/15 12:54 pm ::: |
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| I think basically all the point guards are freshmen. There's one reserve who is a soph or junior but she hasn't played a lot. Hopefully somebody steps up.
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| Posted: 09/29/15 3:27 pm ::: |
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Really lousy news. Not that you want it to happen to anyone, but the impact is just that much more painful when it's someone as good as her.
Here's to a full recovery and to the rest of the Dukes filling her shoes. |
Enter Ashley Perez, stage left....
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| Posted: 09/30/15 6:06 pm ::: |
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Really lousy news. Not that you want it to happen to anyone, but the impact is just that much more painful when it's someone as good as her.
Here's to a full recovery and to the rest of the Dukes filling her shoes. |
Enter Ashley Perez, stage left.... |
Yeppers. And I don't know WTF I was thinking anyway, I must have been asleep. Mickens is the PG. Hopefully SHE stays healthy.
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So a day after the coaches voted JMU Preseason favorites to win the conference, Precious Hall Preseason Player of the Year and so on, Precious was diagnosed with a season ending injury.
Now, for the first time ever the league has rescinded the vote and asked the coaches to re-vote saying that the league is now wide open and they should reconsider their original votes.
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 10/01/15 8:49 am ::: |
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| When did the injury occur? The JMU release didn't say.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 9:19 am ::: |
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| When did the injury occur? The JMU release didn't say. |
I can't find the local news report now, but to the best of my memory it happened during a workout on either Friday or Saturday.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 10:32 am ::: |
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| When did the injury occur? The JMU release didn't say. |
I can't find the local news report now, but to the best of my memory it happened during a workout on either Friday or Saturday. |
Happened Thursday, MRI Friday, results Sunday, announcement on Monday.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 12:19 pm ::: |
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| When did the injury occur? The JMU release didn't say. |
I can't find the local news report now, but to the best of my memory it happened during a workout on either Friday or Saturday. |
Happened Thursday, MRI Friday, results Sunday, announcement on Monday. |
It doesn't take two days to get MRI results for a torn ACL . The coaches knew the outcome within an hour.
The extraordinary re-vote sounds to me like someone in the league office thinks they were sandbagged with the info being hidden until after the preseason poll results were announced.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 1:01 pm ::: |
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| When did the injury occur? The JMU release didn't say. |
I can't find the local news report now, but to the best of my memory it happened during a workout on either Friday or Saturday. |
Happened Thursday, MRI Friday, results Sunday, announcement on Monday. |
It doesn't take two days to get MRI results for a torn ACL . The coaches knew the outcome within an hour.
The extraordinary re-vote sounds to me like someone in the league office thinks they were sandbagged with the info being hidden until after the preseason poll results were announced. |
Actually I need to correct that got results Sunday at 1:47pm. Then scheduled a press release for 5:00pm. As for knowing one could only assume, there wasn't much contact but it was on one of those Euro step moves so I guess it doesn't take much. Hall went down screaming and was on the floor for a good 10 to 15 minutes before being carried to the sidelines. Coaches said that it didn't look good later that day, went for X-ray that day then MRI followed the next day. The people taking the MRI was not the person that read the MRI so that is where you get a time lapse.
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There's something strange there. FB players get ACL tears every week, and every time it's the same. Player gets injured day 1, gets MRI day 2 morning, results are announced to the press day 2 afternoon. Why it would take them from Thursday to Monday to know and to tell the injured player? That's true even on weekends. Something wrong with this picture.
Heck, a lot of players have already had surgery by that time.
I'm thinking the league was wondering the same thing, hence the revote.
BTW, the delay probably occurred, but if I was a player (or a parent of a player) and saw my teammate suffer a bad knee injury and was then told there's no team orthopedist arround to diagnose it for four days, I (or my child) would transfer tomorrow to a school with adequate medical care. I can imagine no excuse for that kind of delay when everyone else takes care of these things in 12-18 hours.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 2:23 pm ::: |
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There's something strange there. FB players get ACL tears every week, and every time it's the same. Player gets injured day 1, gets MRI day 2 morning, results are announced to the press day 2 afternoon. Why it would take them from Thursday to Monday to know and to tell the injured player? That's true even on weekends. Something wrong with this picture.
Heck, a lot of players have already had surgery by that time.
I'm thinking the league was wondering the same thing, hence the revote. |
As someone that has had to go through this with a two children, that's not a totally accurate scenario child #1 tore her knee over the summer we got the MRI and a report that read a little confusing to someone who didn't know what it was and had to see a specialist to have it read. Got the appointment the following week and they scheduled surgery 30 days later and started prehab. The second got hurt her knee and got MRI the following day and they read it as an ACL but we had it reviewed again because the swelling wasn't present and did a second MRI and she only had a MCL and missed 6 weeks the doctor first gave an incorrect diagnosis as the first MRI wasn't totally clear.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 2:27 pm ::: |
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There's something strange there. FB players get ACL tears every week, and every time it's the same. Player gets injured day 1, gets MRI day 2 morning, results are announced to the press day 2 afternoon. Why it would take them from Thursday to Monday to know and to tell the injured player? That's true even on weekends. Something wrong with this picture.
Heck, a lot of players have already had surgery by that time.
I'm thinking the league was wondering the same thing, hence the revote. |
As someone that has had to go through this with a two children, that's not a totally accurate scenario child #1 tore her knee over the summer we got the MRI and a report that read a little confusing to someone who didn't know what it was and had to see a specialist to have it read. Got the appointment the following week and they scheduled surgery 30 days later and started prehab. The second got hurt her knee and got MRI the following day and they read it as an ACL but we had it reviewed again because the swelling wasn't present and did a second MRI and she only had a MCL and missed 6 weeks the doctor first gave an incorrect diagnosis as the first MRI wasn't totally clear. |
Was your child a scholarship athlete at a Div I school? The timeframe is different than for the rest of us mere mortals.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 2:28 pm ::: |
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| There's something strange there. FB players get ACL tears every week, and every time it's the same. Player gets injured day 1, gets MRI day 2 morning, results are announced to the press day 2 afternoon. |
It's very simple. Gambling.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 2:36 pm ::: |
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| There's something strange there. FB players get ACL tears every week, and every time it's the same. Player gets injured day 1, gets MRI day 2 morning, results are announced to the press day 2 afternoon. |
It's very simple. Gambling. |
I don't think colleges are doing it to help gamblers. They're doing it because it's in the player's best interest to have it diagnosed and treated as quickly as possible, and because it's in the school's best interest to get it repaired and the player into rehab asap.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 3:04 pm ::: |
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| There's something strange there. FB players get ACL tears every week, and every time it's the same. Player gets injured day 1, gets MRI day 2 morning, results are announced to the press day 2 afternoon. |
It's very simple. Gambling. |
I don't think colleges are doing it to help gamblers. They're doing it because it's in the player's best interest to have it diagnosed and treated as quickly as possible, and because it's in the school's best interest to get it repaired and the player into rehab asap. |
We were talking about the speed of the announcement, not the speed of the treatment.
As far as football is concerned, if there was a button that if pushed would end all gambling on college football, the NCAA would hire a small army to protect it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 3:38 pm ::: |
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| Many players get injured during the offseason and you hear about it when you hear about it. Even football players that get hurt outside of the season is not breaking news. I think if it was during the season there would have been a report that she is hurt and scheduled to take a MRI and probably a crew waiting outside the hospital to give the report to the community. Outside of the season before practice has even begun I'm not sure what anyone could be speculating that having a press conference earlier would have accomplished. She had hurt her knee about a month ago as well bumping knees with another player, I believe she took a day or two off and was found okay, but again offseason not news, during the season it's news.
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| Posted: 10/01/15 10:10 pm ::: |
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There's something strange there. FB players get ACL tears every week, and every time it's the same. Player gets injured day 1, gets MRI day 2 morning, results are announced to the press day 2 afternoon. Why it would take them from Thursday to Monday to know and to tell the injured player? That's true even on weekends. Something wrong with this picture.
Heck, a lot of players have already had surgery by that time.
I'm thinking the league was wondering the same thing, hence the revote. |
As someone that has had to go through this with a two children, that's not a totally accurate scenario child #1 tore her knee over the summer we got the MRI and a report that read a little confusing to someone who didn't know what it was and had to see a specialist to have it read. Got the appointment the following week and they scheduled surgery 30 days later and started prehab. The second got hurt her knee and got MRI the following day and they read it as an ACL but we had it reviewed again because the swelling wasn't present and did a second MRI and she only had a MCL and missed 6 weeks the doctor first gave an incorrect diagnosis as the first MRI wasn't totally clear. |
Was your child a scholarship athlete at a Div I school? The timeframe is different than for the rest of us mere mortals. |
Art, dearie, JMU may be a DI school, but Sentara RMH is NOT a DI hospital! Sorry to disappoint you. It's a rather deficient institution, sorry to say, even their orthopedic department, which is probably their best department *sigh* I won't go near the place.
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| Posted: 10/02/15 3:59 am ::: |
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There's something strange there. FB players get ACL tears every week, and every time it's the same. Player gets injured day 1, gets MRI day 2 morning, results are announced to the press day 2 afternoon. Why it would take them from Thursday to Monday to know and to tell the injured player? That's true even on weekends. Something wrong with this picture.
Heck, a lot of players have already had surgery by that time.
I'm thinking the league was wondering the same thing, hence the revote. |
As someone that has had to go through this with a two children, that's not a totally accurate scenario child #1 tore her knee over the summer we got the MRI and a report that read a little confusing to someone who didn't know what it was and had to see a specialist to have it read. Got the appointment the following week and they scheduled surgery 30 days later and started prehab. The second got hurt her knee and got MRI the following day and they read it as an ACL but we had it reviewed again because the swelling wasn't present and did a second MRI and she only had a MCL and missed 6 weeks the doctor first gave an incorrect diagnosis as the first MRI wasn't totally clear. |
Was your child a scholarship athlete at a Div I school? The timeframe is different than for the rest of us mere mortals. |
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| Posted: 10/02/15 4:12 am ::: |
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There's something strange there. FB players get ACL tears every week, and every time it's the same. Player gets injured day 1, gets MRI day 2 morning, results are announced to the press day 2 afternoon. Why it would take them from Thursday to Monday to know and to tell the injured player? That's true even on weekends. Something wrong with this picture.
Heck, a lot of players have already had surgery by that time.
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Something strange about your statement. Players having surgery within a week of diagnosis? No surgeon would perform ACL surgery until the player has 45 degree angle of flexibility in the joint and the swelling has went down. A new injury is immediately followed by swelling and decreased mobility and the patient goes through prehab to get the proper mobility to perform the surgery. I've been through the scenario many times and one player had that's recovering from her 2nd ACL had to wait 2 months before surgery. So your FB surgeon may be one of those non licensed malpractice doctors that we read about in the news and is to be avoided.
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The WNBA would kill to get more people betting on its games, and the colleges would love to have lots of action on women's games. That immediately translates into more interest, which means more media coverage, and higher ratings, because people follow their money.
It's like saying college sports are amateur sports -- maybe for some people and some aspects, but the amount of money involved is too huge to ignore. Gambling is the life blood of many sports, and of course fantasy sports is gambling dressed differently.
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