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GlennMacGrady
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| Angela Savadores shot 1-10 for two points. The Debil of Durham may be dyspeptic. |
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| Posted: 07/14/15 9:21 pm ::: |
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Just to show how tough all the other countries have it, a bunch of teams are already working on qualifying for the 2017 version of this championship before this one starts. This is not even the first round for that as last summer, the Central American teams competed in the 2014 COCABA U16 Championship just to get to this year's Centrobasket U17 Tournament as they play for spots in the 2016 FIBA Americas U18 Championship. The Centrobasket portion is going on right now and Puerto Rico has several players in mainland high schools. The USA and Canada have it easy!
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| Angela Savadores shot 1-10 for two points. The Debil of Durham may be dyspeptic. |
Having followed her season in Spain in depth, she just seems prone to random games where no shots fall.
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| Posted: 07/15/15 1:11 pm ::: |
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Salvadores was streaky at the last worlds, but she did have a great game in the final.
As far as recruiting, it is what the recruit believes from the bullcrap they are being told by college coaches. Others get upset at the use of negative recruiting and using their power with USA to do that.
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| Posted: 07/16/15 11:41 pm ::: |
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FIBA has already posted the YouTube links for the group stage, so I figured I might as well put them all in one post (all times EDT, games are available live and on replay):
United States:
vs Spain, Saturday 1:15pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRe1vbeac5I
vs China, Sunday 1:15pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvL2wHIVSzA
vs Egypt, Tuesday 1:15pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqLW0UDkOCY
Other Group B:
China vs Egypt, Saturday 1:30pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFldRniBqqg
Spain vs Egypt, Sunday 10:30am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0H9L-ynt28
Spain vs China, Tuesday 1:15pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGCHgEx1lMM
Group A:
Russia vs Taiwan, Saturday 11:00am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyW7QsNMhfI
Netherlands vs Argentina, Saturday 12:45pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02PKC-6pBj0
Argentina vs Russia, Sunday 11:00am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUo-BJjabXE
Taiwan vs Netherlands, Sunday 12:45pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXL7Is1b_UE
Taiwan vs Argentina, Tuesday 11:00am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z8L_zl4JAw
Netherlands vs Russia, Tuesday 11:00am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hNUMbvE5oo
Group C:
Belgium vs France, Saturday 6:00am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6ROTjYn8bU
Canada vs Mali, Saturday 8:15am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KRj6Y1t330
Mali vs Belgium, Sunday 6:00am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBpNaq6eNEk
France vs Canada, Sunday 8:45am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKPc9X9M0KM
Canada vs Belgium, Tuesday 6:30am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiSt7fTuEUs
France vs Mali, Tuesday 6:30am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaidAH5Gl8Y
Group D:
South Korea vs Brazil, Saturday 6:00am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDYzuclMu7s
Australia vs Serbia, Saturday 8:15am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PJjwDFecLk
Brazil vs Australia, Sunday 6:30am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBiW2jBYpYw
Serbia vs South Korea, Sunday 8:15am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKXpvEp3YRc
Serbia vs Brazil, Tuesday 8:45am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKXpvEp3YRc
South Korea vs Australia, Tuesday 8:45am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLQAJu_fZ28
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| Posted: 07/17/15 11:44 am ::: |
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| Thanks Awhom. Read on a college board that U19 lost to France in a scrimmage. Looking forward to the Australians, French, Italians and Czechs.
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Although the USA web site still includes Samuelson on the roster, the FIBA site includes Slocum. I was told there were some "paperwork" issues w/r/t Slocum but it looks like they've been resolved. My guess is that the USA needed to file a request to add Slocum because the named alternate -- Patberg -- replaced Durr.
I'm a little surprised USA has not announced the addition of Slocum to the roster; or maybe I missed it. Right now the only confirmation we have is a report from the Idaho Statesman and the USA roster at the FIBA site.
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| Posted: 07/18/15 10:02 am ::: |
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| Group C just got very interesting. Belgium with the unexpected victory this morning. Go Belgium! Also, Mali put up more of a fight than expected, but that's a tough group to be in.
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| Posted: 07/18/15 1:10 pm ::: |
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| team u.s up 36-24 at the half. A'ja Wikson with 12 points and 9 boards.
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| team u.s up 36-24 at the half. A'ja Wikson with 12 points and 9 boards. |
Thought it was interesting that five players played less minutes than Slocum. I saw a USA Basketball tweet saying that Slocum just landed in Russia today and since she wasn't added to the team until now, she hasn't even practiced. She still played more minutes than 5 of the players. If she wasn't an uncommitted high school recruit with a staff of college coaches who probably want her, I think the minutes distribution may be a little different. She did look pretty good though given the travel/jet lag that likely ensued but after reading about the whole USA Basketball and recruiting stuff it makes some of these playing time choices a little interesting.
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| team u.s up 36-24 at the half. A'ja Wikson with 12 points and 9 boards. |
Thought it was interesting that five players played less minutes than Slocum. I saw a USA Basketball tweet saying that Slocum just landed in Russia today and since she wasn't added to the team until now, she hasn't even practiced. She still played more minutes than 5 of the players. If she wasn't an uncommitted high school recruit with a staff of college coaches who probably want her, I think the minutes distribution may be a little different. She did look pretty good though given the travel/jet lag that likely ensued but after reading about the whole USA Basketball and recruiting stuff it makes some of these playing time choices a little interesting. |
I would think that she needed to play as many minutes as possible seeing how she has zero minutes with the team. These recruiting conspiracy theories have become overblown IMO.
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| Posted: 07/18/15 2:19 pm ::: |
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A'ja Wilson continues to impress with her polymathic basketball skills. Low post, high post, drive, handle, pull up jumper -- she does it all. One play particularly impressed me. Wilson, sprinting ahead on a break, caught a bullet pass with her right (off) hand and palmed it all the way in for the layup. That would have been a great move for a 6-4 player using her dominant hand, but it was magical to me because I thought Wilson was so lefty dominant.
Napheesa Collier has ball magnetism. She's always in action around the ball -- handling, driving, shooting, rebounding, putting back, poking, stealing, blocking. If she had a three-point shot, I'd call her a lock for college All-American. But she doesn't have such a shot as of yet, though she seems to have the shooting touch to still develop one.
I've yet to be consistently impressed by Lauren Cox, at least with respect to her top rankings, and I've seen her as a U17 and U16. She is of course talented, but I don't see consistently effective back-to-the-basket moves or a consistent outside jump shot. |
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| Posted: 07/18/15 2:23 pm ::: |
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| team u.s up 36-24 at the half. A'ja Wikson with 12 points and 9 boards. |
Thought it was interesting that five players played less minutes than Slocum. I saw a USA Basketball tweet saying that Slocum just landed in Russia today and since she wasn't added to the team until now, she hasn't even practiced. She still played more minutes than 5 of the players. If she wasn't an uncommitted high school recruit with a staff of college coaches who probably want her, I think the minutes distribution may be a little different. She did look pretty good though given the travel/jet lag that likely ensued but after reading about the whole USA Basketball and recruiting stuff it makes some of these playing time choices a little interesting. |
I would think that she needed to play as many minutes as possible seeing how she has zero minutes with the team. These recruiting conspiracy theories have become overblown IMO. |
I was just reacting to the box score, but in general you'd think the practices in between game days would be when someone would get acclimated.
But in regards to the actual game I think USA's frontcourt is pretty darn good for this level, but the guard play is just alright.
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I've yet to be consistently impressed by Lauren Cox, at least with respect to her top rankings, and I've seen her as a U17 and U16. She is of course talented, but I don't see consistently effective back-to-the-basket moves or a consistent outside jump shot. |
Cox had this one play where she got the rebound, dribbled coast to coast and made a nice pass but the player missed the shot. She does seem to have all the tools and a diverse skillset but maybe not GREAT in one area, just really good in a lot of areas? Haven't seen her much.
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She has none and have any of you seen Anigwe this year? I know the Cal fans are furious and I have to kind of agree with them although it pains me. How about you let Slocum show you in a practice that you should play her! I said it last year when Staley took Turner out every time she went on a scoring run, there is no way she is going to let any other player out score her own. And please explain why Azure is getting pulled and sitting?
Btw everyone is talking about Holmes kicking butt on the club circuit and showing why she is the better player.
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Here are the other teams' rosters for reference (how sneaky of the Gems to sneak Froling and Wallace into an SEABL game):
A:
Argentina:
Julieta Albuerne, Atletico Lanus (Argentina)
Magali Armesto, Social Lanus (Argentina)
Aldana Arture, Velez Sarsfield (Argentina)
Luciana Delabarba, Berazategui (Argentina)
Agustina Garcia, Social Lanus (Argentina)
Emilia Giustiniani, Union Florida (Argentina)
Victoria Lara, Social Lanus (Argentina)
Sol Laviero, Social Lanus (Argentina)
Agustina Leiva, Berazategui (Argentina)
Victoria Llorente, Atletico Lanus (Argentina)
Julieta Mungo, Berazategui (Argentina)
Sabrina Rodighero, Social Lanus (Argentina)
Netherlands:
Laura Cornelius, CTO Amsterdam (Netherlands), Miami signee
Emese Hof, CTO Amsterdam (Netherlands), Miami signee
Charlotte van Kleef, CTO Amsterdam (Netherlands)
Fleur Kuijt, Grasshoppers (Netherlands)
Esther Fokke, CTO Amsterdam (Netherlands)
Asa Kantebeen, CTO Amsterdam (Netherlands)
Laura Westerik, CTO Amsterdam (Netherlands)
Deborah Vos, CTO Amsterdam (Netherlands)
Marieke van Schie, Grasshoppers (Netherlands)
Ella Bouman, Yellow Blizzards (Netherlands)
Noortje Joosten, Norrkoping (Sweden)
Myrthe den Heeten, CTO Amsterdam (Netherlands)
Taiwan (family name first):
Lo Pin, Chinese Cultural University (Taiwan)
Liu Hui-Ju, National Taiwan Normal University (Taiwan)
Yu Yi-Wen, New Taipei Municipal Tamsui Commercial Industrial Vocational Senior High School (Taiwan)
Hsu Yu-Lien, Chinese Cultural University (Taiwan)
Wu Yu-Hsuan, New Taipei Municipal Tamsui Commercial Industrial Vocational Senior High School (Taiwan)
Su Yi-Ching, Chinese Cultural University (Taiwan)
Cho Ching, Taipei Hujiang University (Taiwan)
Lee I-Chian, Chinese Cultural University (Taiwan)
Jhang You-Jing, National Taiwan University of Sport (Taiwan)
Li Chia-Chieh, Tainan Yong-Ren Senior High School (Taiwan)
Huang Jou-Chen, Chinese Cultural University (Taiwan)
Chen Ting-An, Tainan Yong-Ren Senior High School (Taiwan)
Russia:
Raisa Musina, Spartak Moscow (Russia)
Maria Vadeeva, Spartak Moscow (Russia)
Kamilla Ogun, Spartak Moscow (Russia)
Daria Kolosovskaia, Spartak Moscow (Russia)
Anastasia Kuplinova, Nadezhda Orenburg (Russia)
Ksenia Levchenko, Spartak Moscow (Russia)
Tatiana Sema, Dynamo Kursk (Russia)
Viktoria Zavialova, UMMC Ekaterinburg (Russia)
Anna Burovaya, Dynamo Kursk (Russia)
Zhosselina Maiga, Nadezhda Orenburg (Russia)
Elizaveta Bratchikova, MBA Moscow (Russia)
Elizaveta Krymova, Dynamo Kursk (Russia)
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China (family name first):
Wang Haimei, Liaoning (China)
Zhang Manman, Xinjiang (China)
Wang Miao, Bayi (China)
Qi Yu, Liaoning (China)
Xing Jinbo, Liaoning (China)
Sun Lirui, Jiangsu (China)
Zhu Meiqi, Bayi (China)
Mi Fengying, Beijing (China)
Ha Wenxi, Jiangsu (China)
Dilana Dilishati, Guangdong (China)
Liu Shuai, Shenyang (China)
Zhang Tianyu, Shenbu (China
Egypt:
Nada Abdelhamad, Al Gezira (Egypt)
Nouralla Talaat, Al Ahly (Egypt)
Farah Khaled Kandil, Al Ahly (Egypt)
Nadine Selaawi, Al Ahly (Egypt)
Asrar Maged, Sporting (Egypt)
Sara Nady, El Said (Egypt)
Nada Amr, Sporting (Egypt)
Radwa Salem, Al Gezira (Egypt)
Farida Wael Amin Abdelnabi, Heliopolis (Egypt)
Nadine Rehan, Sporting (Egypt)
Fatma Mamdouh, Semouha (Egypt)
Raneem Elgedawy, Sporting (Egypt)
Spain:
Laia Raventos, Segle XXI (Spain), Charlotte signee
Maite Cazorla, Segle XXI (Spain), Oregon signee
Ani Calvo, Zaragoza (Spain)
Nogaye Lo, Andratx (Spain)
Angela Salvadores, Rivas (Spain), Duke signee
Laura Quevedo, Bembibre (Spain), ex-Miami
Laia Flores, South Florida
Lucia Togores, Leganes (Spain)
Helena Orts, Fairfield
Maria Conde, Estudiantes (Spain), Florida State signee
Iho Lopez, Girona (Spain)
Sara Zaragoza, Portland
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Belgium:
Julie Allemand, Castors Braine (Belgium)
Fauve Bastiaenssen, Sint Katelijne Waver (Belgium)
Eva Devliegher, Sint Katelijne Waver (Belgium)
Serena-Lynn Geldof, Kangoeroes (Belgium)
Eline Maesschalck, Sint Katelijne Waver (Belgium)
Yelena Mense, Sint Katelijne Waver (Belgium)
Laeticia Mpoyi, Sint Katelijne Waver (Belgium)
Heleen Nauwelaers, Sint Katelijne Waver (Belgium)
Sofia Ouahabi, Spirou Monceau (Belgium)
Elise Ramette, Blue Cats (Belgium)
Laure Resimont, Sint Katelijne Waver (Belgium)
Laura Henket, Liege Panthers (Belgium)
Canada:
Bridget Atkinson, Guelph (CIS)
Bridget Carleton, Iowa State signee
Julia Chandler, Syracuse signee
Maurane Corbin, Montmorency (CIS)
Cheyenne Creighton, Memphis
Danielle Garven, Minnesota signee
Mael Gilles, Montmorency (CIS)
Nancy Kessler, Toledo
Jaelyn Kirkpatrick, Illinois signee
Emma Piggin, Thompson Rivers (CIS)
Daneesha Provo, transferring from Clemson to Utah
Lauren Yearwood, Oregon signee
France:
Camille Cirgue, Colomiers (France)
Mathilde Combes, Bourges (France)
Louise Dambach, Strasbourg (France)
Rose Ducret, Nantes (France)
Alizee Girardet, Lyon (France)
Clarisse Legrand, Lyon (France)
Marylie Limousin, Villeurbanne (France)
Victoria Majekodunmi, Charleville-Mezieres (France)
Leslie Makosso, Lyon (France)
Marie Michelle Milapie, Landes (France)
Catherine Mosengo-Masa, Mondeville (France)
Angelina Turmel, Angers (France)
Mali:
Aminata Diakite, Attar (Mali)
Astan Soumare, Attar (Mali)
Djeneba N'Diaye, Djoliba (Mali)
Kani Keita, Djoliba (Mali)
Hawa Bagayoko, Mande (Mali)
Korotoumou Konare, Commune I (Mali)
Kadidia Maiga, Attar (Mali)
Assitan Traore, Attar (Mali)
Mariam Alou Coulibaly, J.A (Mali)
Awa Keita, Commune VI (Mali)
Christine Dakouo, Commune III (Mali)
Adama Coulibaly, Djoliba (Mali)
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Australia:
Madeleine Dennis, Dayton signee
Montana Farrah-Seaton, Albury Wodonga Bandits (Australia)
Alicia Froling, SMU/Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence (Australia)
Chantel Horvat, Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence (Australia)
Eziyoda Magbegor, Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence (Australia)
Anneli Maley, Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence (Australia)
Mikayla Pirini, West Coast Waves (Australia)/Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence (Australia)
Lauren Scherf, Dandenong Rangers (Australia)/Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence (Australia)
Alexandra Sharp, Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence (Australia)
Alanna Smith, Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence (Australia), Stanford signee
Tahlia Tupaea, Sydney Flames (Australia)/Penrith Panthers (Australia)
Kristy Wallace, Baylor/Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence (Australia)
Brazil:
Mariane De Carvalho, Bradesco (Brazil)
Tayna Dos Reis, Barretos (Brazil)
Thayna Silva, Instituto Mangueira do Futuro (Brazil)
Aline Moura, Jundiai (Brazil)
Kananda Benedicto, Brasilia (Brazil)
Larissa Carneiro, Bradesco (Brazil)
Jennifer Nonato, Barretos (Brazil)
Lays Da Silva, Sao Bernardo (Brazil)
Vitoria Domingos, Sao Jose (Brazil)
Gabriela Guimaraes, Jundiai (Brazil)
Bianca Araujo, Santo Andre (Brazil)
Monique Pereira, Guarulhos (Brazil)
Serbia:
Bojana Stevanovic, Radnicki (Serbia)
Julijana Vojinovic, Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)
Tamara Jokic, Sabac (Serbia)
Ana Ilic, Korac (Serbia)
Jovana Nogic, Benfica (Portugal)
Katarina Zec, Red Star Belgrade (Serbia)
Kristina Arsenic, Grosuplje (Slovenia)
Snezana Bogicevic, Red Star Belgrade (Serbia)
Jovana Subasic, Leskovac (Serbia)
Aleksandra Katanic, Red Star Belgrade (Serbia)
Nevena Vuckovic, Korac (Serbia)
Milica Bojovic, Red Star Belgrade (Serbia)
South Korea (family name first):
Lee Ju-Yeon, Insung Girl's High School (South Korea)
Kim Hyeong-Kyeong, Speer Girl's High School (South Korea)
Kim Hyeon-A, Chungjoo Girl's High School (South Korea)
Lee Ji-Woo, Dongju Girl's High School (South Korea)
Cha Ji-Hyun, Bundang Management High School (South Korea)
Park Ji-Su, Bundang Management High School (South Korea)
Eom Da-Yeong, Chuncheon Girl's High School (South Korea)
Lee Hae-Un, KEB (South Korea)
Yu Hyeon-Yi, Suwon Girl's High School (South Korea)
Jin An, Suwon Girl's High School (South Korea)
Kim Sun-Hee, Hyosung Girl's High School (South Korea)
Kim Yeon-Hee, S-Birds (South Korea)
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Based on her play in this game, I would like to see Dawn start Crystal Dangerfield as the PG. Yes she's the youngest and going into her Sr Year of HS, but the offense seemed to flow smoother and most importantly she had ZERO turn overs.
Patberg and Ortiz were turn over city. Slocum didn't do much better, but I'll give her a pass and she hasn't been with the team.
I say like Morgan Tuck, Collier will be a future All American.
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| Were there as many cries of outrage back during the 2011 Pan Am Games, when a skinny 17-yr. old high schooler was allowed to dominate the minutes on the floor, shots taken, etc. over a team roster of 20-something collegiate stars on way to a 2-2 mediocre showing? I wasn't a member here, so I'm just asking....
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So is Louisville. Last I heard, SC didn't have any available scholarships for 2016. I'm sure Dawn could make it work if it came down to it.
Slocum is looking at Duke, Maryland (both of which she's visited this summer), South Carolina, Louisville, Notre Dame, and TN which she does plan on visiting.
It'll be interesting to see how being coached by Dawn and Jeff may influence her decision. Either she stays in the west and plays for WA, or she heads east and plays for one of the above.
She's been quoted as saying she wants to go someplace that's on the rise. I know she plans on visiting TN and that's probably out of curiosity and respect (she's a fan of Pat and Candace Parker), however based on this statement I don't see her going to school who's already won a Championship. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
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