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[Queenie]

Here's the scenario that played out today at St. John's:

Defensive team is way, way into the penalty. Offensive team is in the double bonus. Defensive team commits a common foul, sending offensive player to the line. Offensive player misses the first free throw and immediately barges into the lane to attempt a putback, having apparently forgotten that it's a two-shot foul. Putback is missed.

What actually happened next is in white text below, but what should have happened next?

Offensive player forfeited second free throw attempt. Scorekeeper credited offensive player with a missed FT and an offensive rebound. Offensive team was granted inbounds underneath their own basket.

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[Ex-Ref]

The ball was to remain dead after the first of the two free throw, so I'd say nothing more than a little embarrassment for the shooter.

[Ex-Ref]

[myrtle]

Yeah, if she went into the lane too soon, that FT would be null and void, but she still should have a second one if you're sure it was a two shot foul. (IMO)

edit: the only way it could play out the way you say is if it were in fact a one and one, O player legally entered the lane, missed the shot, got the rebound and the whistle blew because the refs were messed up about whether or not it was a two shot foul. Since she had possession when the 'inadvertent' whistle halted action, the o team would have the ball out of bounds.

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[Ex-Ref]

Here's my additional comment on what happened, (below in white for those that still want to play along).

If that's the true rule, then every player that is shooting a two shot foul should bust into the lane if they see that they are going to miss. What is there to lose?

Player gets a rebound added to her stats and the ball out of bounds? Wow!

[Ex-Ref]

Was it at 1:06 of the first?

Let me ask, did you actually see it happen or are you going off of the play-by-play? I'm just wondering if you're going by p-b-p, it might be wrong (unlikely, but just wondering.)

But, yeah, that looks not right to me.

[GlennMacGrady]

Dead ball should continue and shooter should take second FTA. Same result even if shooter committed a violation by crossing the FTL before the ball hit the rim.

I think all posts should be made in white. It will make for a very clean looking forum.

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[ripleydc]

On my iPad, I could read the white text. On my PC, however, it is absolutely impossible to see it. (However, the white text miraculously appears if you run the cursor over the text.)

How much did you have to drink, Queenie, at the Oscar party before you cam up with the white text idea?

[summertime blues]

[ball4life]

I could see absolutely nothing in white from my iPhone. But here is my response below in disappearing ink.

Talking to an official close to the situation that was there he said what happened was






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[mred]

Similar story from 2004 MBB:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2004/feb/22/cyclones_lament_botched/

[Queenie]

[cthskzfn]

On a 2-shot foul, the only (official) thing that should happen, after the miss, is the shooting of the 2nd FT.

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[GlennMacGrady]

[Queenie]

I think Aliyyah missed the lay-up. Then again, the official box score matches my personal one. So it's possible I'm a doofus... but so was everyone else in the building but Aliyyah.

That being said, in the scenario where it's a one-shot foul, why did no one else from either team attempt to rebound? And how would SJU have ended up with the ball after the dead ball?

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[Ex-Ref]

[Ex-Ref]

[cattekin]