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NoDakSt
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 Posted: 08/17/14 9:02 am ::: Baylor 2014 schedule |
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11/04/14 vs. Midwestern State Waco, Texas TBA
11/10/14 vs. Tarleton State Waco, Texas TBA
11/14/14 vs. Oral Roberts Waco, Texas TBA
11/17/14 at Kentucky TV Lexington, KY 6:00 p.m. CT
BTI Classic
11/28/14 vs. Marist Waco, Texas TBA
11/29/14 vs. Stetson Waco, Texas TBA
11/30/14 vs. Utah State Waco, Texas TBA
12/03/14 vs. Texas-Pan American Waco, Texas TBA
12/07/14 at Ole Miss Oxford, Miss. TBA
12/10/14 vs. Idaho Waco, Texas TBA
12/14/14 vs. Stephen F. Austin Waco, Texas TBA
Florida Sunshine Tournament
12/19/14 vs. Syracuse Orlando, Fla. TBA
12/20/14 vs. Michigan State Orlando, Fla. TBA
12/29/14 vs. Prairie View A&M Waco, Texas TBA
01/03/15 vs. Oklahoma State * Waco, Texas TBA
01/06/15 at Kansas State * Manhattan, Kan. TBA
01/10/15 at West Virginia * Morgantown, W.V. TBA
01/13/15 vs. Iowa State * Waco, Texas TBA
01/17/15 at Kansas * Lawrence, Kan. TBA
01/19/15 vs. Texas * Waco, Texas TBA
01/24/15 vs. Kansas State * Waco, Texas TBA
01/27/15 at TCU * Fort Worth, Texas TBA
01/31/15 vs. Kansas * Waco, Texas TBA
02/04/15 at Oklahoma State * Stillwater, Okla. TBA
02/08/15 at Texas * Austin, Texas TBA
02/11/15 vs. Oklahoma * Waco, Texas TBA
02/15/15 vs. West Virginia * Waco, Texas TBA
02/18/15 at Texas Tech * Lubbock, Texas TBA
02/21/15 vs. TCU * Waco, Texas TBA
02/25/15 at Oklahoma * Norman, Okla. TBA
02/28/15 at Iowa State * Ames, Iowa TBA
03/02/15 vs. Texas Tech * Waco, Texas TBA
Big 12 Championships
03/06/15 TBA Dallas, Texas TBA
03/07/15 TBA Dallas, Texas TBA
03/08/15 TBA Dallas, Texas TBA
03/09/15 TBA Dallas, Texas TBA
Best OOC games will be at Kentucky and the Florida tournament matchups against 'Cuse and Michigan State (a rematch of the 2005 national title game competitors).
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myrtle
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| Posted: 08/21/14 12:41 am ::: |
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 08/21/14 8:21 am ::: |
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Who is the 4th team in the Florida Sunshine tournament? Because Baylor, MSU, and Syracuse would make the best field I've yet seen for any of these preseason or holiday tourneys this season.
That tournament actually makes this a big improvement over what Kim put together last year against Ky and the ten dwarfs.
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Fighting Artichoke
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| Posted: 08/21/14 9:57 am ::: |
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| ArtBest23 wrote: |
Who is the 4th team in the Florida Sunshine tournament? Because Baylor, MSU, and Syracuse would make the best field I've yet seen for any of these preseason or holiday tourneys this season.
That tournament actually makes this a big improvement over what Kim put together last year against Ky and the ten dwarfs. |
Baylor's OOC schedule reduced in rigor significantly last season, but recall that Baylor played Connecticut last year. So I would consider this OOC schedule weaker, as Kentucky remains and MSU + Syracuse < UConn.
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| Posted: 08/22/14 7:39 pm ::: |
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| ArtBest23 wrote: |
Who is the 4th team in the Florida Sunshine tournament? Because Baylor, MSU, and Syracuse would make the best field I've yet seen for any of these preseason or holiday tourneys this season.
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There isn't one. It's a 3-team round robin with MSU and Syracuse playing on the 21st.
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ridor
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| Posted: 08/23/14 5:25 am ::: |
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I know some of you guys are not impressed with Baylor's schedule. But you have to keep in mind - it is Kim Mulkey herself!! She will rack the Ws as many in a short time. I noticed the pattern on Kim, whenever she got stronger players like Odyssey Sims, Sophia Young & Brittney Griner, Kim will make the schedule stronger. But if her roster are untested, Kim would switch to this pansy schedule just to rack the Ws for the time being. Why do you think she has 404-86 in 14 years?
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| Posted: 08/23/14 8:07 am ::: |
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| ridor wrote: |
I know some of you guys are not impressed with Baylor's schedule. But you have to keep in mind - it is Kim Mulkey herself!! She will rack the Ws as many in a short time. I noticed the pattern on Kim, whenever she got stronger players like Odyssey Sims, Sophia Young & Brittney Griner, Kim will make the schedule stronger. But if her roster are untested, Kim would switch to this pansy schedule just to rack the Ws for the time being. Why do you think she has 404-86 in 14 years?
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And that's what she should do, I think. If you have a stronger team, you play a stronger schedule. The idea is to get your team better, and you don't do that by getting pounded by superior teams. You need to win games while playing competitive games.
Losing games doesn't impress the selection committee, the AD, the alums or the fans.
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| Posted: 08/23/14 8:29 am ::: |
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| ridor wrote: |
I know some of you guys are not impressed with Baylor's schedule. But you have to keep in mind - it is Kim Mulkey herself!! She will rack the Ws as many in a short time. I noticed the pattern on Kim, whenever she got stronger players like Odyssey Sims, Sophia Young & Brittney Griner, Kim will make the schedule stronger. But if her roster are untested, Kim would switch to this pansy schedule just to rack the Ws for the time being. Why do you think she has 404-86 in 14 years?
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And that's what she should do, I think. If you have a stronger team, you play a stronger schedule. The idea is to get your team better, and you don't do that by getting pounded by superior teams. You need to win games while playing competitive games.
Losing games doesn't impress the selection committee, the AD, the alums or the fans. |
Many fine coaches, Tom Izzo being a prime example, would disagree with that, and believe you best prepare your team by playing a rugged early schedule EVERY year.
Besides, if Baylor is so "weak" every year, why are they always ranked in the top 10 or 12? Nobody in the top 20 can use your excuse.
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| Posted: 08/23/14 1:52 pm ::: |
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Tom Izzo is a great coach with a very talented roster ...
Those coaches that don't come into each season in a strong position are better off, especially at the lower levels, mixing in confidence-building games with challenges (which vary according to team). Getting blown out all preseason will not help you in the long run, and I've never really believed that playing a certain kind of team in November will make any difference in March.
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| Posted: 08/23/14 3:13 pm ::: |
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Tom Izzo is a great coach with a very talented roster ...
Those coaches that don't come into each season in a strong position are better off, especially at the lower levels, mixing in confidence-building games with challenges (which vary according to team). Getting blown out all preseason will not help you in the long run, and I've never really believed that playing a certain kind of team in November will make any difference in March. |
Mulkey is a very good coach who always has a very talented roster as reflected by Baylor's high preseason ranking every year.
Baylor women will, without question, be ranked higher than MSU men preseason this year. She has no excuse.
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| Posted: 08/23/14 5:41 pm ::: |
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| clayk, I'm not complaining about Kim Mulkey and her schedules at Baylor. All I'm just saying is that it is the way she operates. She learned it from Leon Barmore and used it with Baylor. If it works, stick with it. That's what she has been doing in the last 14 years. So each year, when I saw her schedule, it never disappointed me at all like it does to others. I guess it is because I know her style.
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| Posted: 08/24/14 11:34 am ::: |
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I think the "only excuse" is success ...
Scheduling is one of the most underrated aspects of coaching, and just like pretty much everything else, different styles and decisions can be successful.
I don't believe in having my team play tough opponents, lose a lot of games and then expect them to be in peak form when league starts. Some coaches do ...
Depending on my team, I schedule differently each year.
Tom Izzo is very successful scheduling his way; Kim Mulkey is very successful scheduling hers.
Is one style inherently "better/more virtuous" than the other?
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| Posted: 08/24/14 9:12 pm ::: |
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| ridor wrote: |
| clayk, I'm not complaining about Kim Mulkey and her schedules at Baylor. All I'm just saying is that it is the way she operates. She learned it from Leon Barmore and used it with Baylor. If it works, stick with it. That's what she has been doing in the last 14 years. So each year, when I saw her schedule, it never disappointed me at all like it does to others. I guess it is because I know her style. |
Early in her career, KM engaged in very clever OOC scheduling - lots of top teams in bad conferences - that both gave Baylor a better record and helped the team's RPI. It resulted in higher seeds and rankings, and also seemed to be emulated by other B12 teams.
As her teams have gotten better, she's done less of that (and far less cupcake scheduling than, say Sylvia Hatchell). She's quite good at the scheduling game.
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| Posted: 08/25/14 4:21 am ::: |
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It seems like a good way to see how KM really sees her team from season to season. Her sched this year kind of says 'the team is inexperienced but there is good talent and they will improve quickly'. They have no Odyssey to fall back on and she knows it.
I STILL CAN'T WATCH HER ON THE SIDELINES, BUT SHE DEFINITELY KNOWS WHAT SHE'S DOING.
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| Posted: 08/25/14 9:32 am ::: |
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I'm with you on Kim being hard to watch (and not just because of her wardrobe) ...
It's amusing at one level but disturbing at another that when players screw up on court, Kim turns and reams out her assistants as if it's their fault.
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| Posted: 08/25/14 9:02 pm ::: |
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| I am not a KM fan, but will admit that I enjoy watching her on the sidelines (and in press conferences) when things go wrong. That's probably bad for my karmic burden, but what can you do?
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NoDakSt
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| Posted: 08/25/14 10:36 pm ::: |
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| I am not a KM fan, but will admit that I enjoy watching her on the sidelines (and in press conferences) when things go wrong. That's probably bad for my karmic burden, but what can you do? |
WCBB wouldn't be as fun, I agree.
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