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PostPosted: 04/04/14 8:15 pm    ::: What just happened at Kentucky? Reply Reply with quote

Coaches fired after sweet 16 run.


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http://www.kentucky.com/2014/04/04/3178703/kentuckys-mitchell-fires-two-assistant.html?sp=/99/268/798/


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PostPosted: 04/04/14 8:43 pm    ::: Wow Reply Reply with quote

$140,000 for an asst coach. That's probably more pay than for 50% of the head coaches in Div 1.

Okay Rebkellians, who has the chart of HC salaries?


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PostPosted: 04/04/14 10:13 pm    ::: Re: What just happened at Kentucky? Reply Reply with quote

ball4life wrote:
Coaches fired after sweet 16 run.


I don't know if something specific happened but given that he hired the WNBA coach to help with the offense he may not be happy with the progress there? They were held under 60 in some games against UGA, South Carolina and some others. Getting swept by UF had to be a surprise.

For Pillow maybe the post play just wasn't as good as expected? Did Kentucky lose on some recruits they expected to get? Her and Mitchell go way back to UT so this could just have been a tough decision where he thinks he can upgrade the staff. Kentucky returns 5 McDonald's All Americans and adds a 6th as a freshman so expectations may be very high and Mitchell may want to make sure they are better than they were this year?


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PostPosted: 04/04/14 11:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Interesting. I'm more or less neutral about both KY schools (KY and L'ville) but I was kinda high on Matt when he began. And I like a lot of what he's done over the past seasons. But I'm beginning to not be impressed, not because of his win/loss record, but I'm just getting the impression he's a bit of a blowhard. I've watched some of his cable programs, and he just left me with the impression that he's got a bigger/better impression of himself that is deserved.



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PostPosted: 04/05/14 6:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Pillow should have been gone a long time ago. The talent we had with our post players was wasted with her as a coach. They really didn't progress as much as most thought they would.

I'm not surprised about House. He was brought in for his offensive knowledge and his system wasn't a good fit.

Losing Elzy & Insell has a much larger impact than losing these two. We'll see if Mitchell can bring in some quality hires.

Howee, I agree that he is full of himself. Wink


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PostPosted: 04/05/14 9:20 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Pillow should have been gone a long time ago. The talent we had with our post players was wasted with her as a coach. They really didn't progress as much as most thought they would.

I'm not surprised about House. He was brought in for his offensive knowledge and his system wasn't a good fit.

Losing Elzy & Insell has a much larger impact than losing these two. We'll see if Mitchell can bring in some quality hires.

Howee, I agree that he is full of himself. Wink


We got Elzy back, and look what she's done with Izzy! Russell is coming along (like most big girls, she's progressing a little slower, but she passes well and her rebounding is better) and so are Graves and Jones. Laughing



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PostPosted: 04/05/14 12:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

That program was in NOWHEREs-land when he took it over. He created a following by putting a good product on the floor and offering up some zaniness - the cooking show and his Midnight Madness routine. Good for him to do what it takes to get fans to pay attention! To do that opposite the mens' team is pretty spectacular.


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PostPosted: 04/05/14 12:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

marketing and attendance was started by DeMoss actually, but she burned out, left a young team and he capitalized and grew off the attendance Mickie built, they really need to get an upper deck curtain for Rupp and move some more home games there, but I agree Mitchell has been good for kentucky and the promotion has been mostly harmless.

That being said, this is a puzzling move, he better have some good names up his sleeve



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PostPosted: 04/05/14 12:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
~UK~ wrote:
Pillow should have been gone a long time ago. The talent we had with our post players was wasted with her as a coach. They really didn't progress as much as most thought they would.

I'm not surprised about House. He was brought in for his offensive knowledge and his system wasn't a good fit.

Losing Elzy & Insell has a much larger impact than losing these two. We'll see if Mitchell can bring in some quality hires.

Howee, I agree that he is full of himself. Wink


We got Elzy back, and look what she's done with Izzy! Russell is coming along (like most big girls, she's progressing a little slower, but she passes well and her rebounding is better) and so are Graves and Jones. Laughing


Yep. Summitt had been after Elzy several years. I think her illness tipped the scale. Elzy is a good one. Too bad she has no desire to be a head coach.


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PostPosted: 04/05/14 1:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

~UK~ wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
~UK~ wrote:
Pillow should have been gone a long time ago. The talent we had with our post players was wasted with her as a coach. They really didn't progress as much as most thought they would.

I'm not surprised about House. He was brought in for his offensive knowledge and his system wasn't a good fit.

Losing Elzy & Insell has a much larger impact than losing these two. We'll see if Mitchell can bring in some quality hires.

Howee, I agree that he is full of himself. Wink


We got Elzy back, and look what she's done with Izzy! Russell is coming along (like most big girls, she's progressing a little slower, but she passes well and her rebounding is better) and so are Graves and Jones. Laughing


Yep. Summitt had been after Elzy several years. I think her illness tipped the scale. Elzy is a good one. Too bad she has no desire to be a head coach.


I think Elzy works well in partnership. She's still fairly young and may change her mind about being a head coach in the future. She was enormously popular as a player at UT and is equally popular as a coach She always was one of my favorites for her work ethic; when she was rehabbing her knee I would sometimes get to games early and see her running in the concourse at TBA.



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PostPosted: 04/05/14 2:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Happycappie25 wrote:
marketing and attendance was started by DeMoss actually, but she burned out, left a young team and he capitalized and grew off the attendance Mickie built, they really need to get an upper deck curtain for Rupp and move some more home games there, but I agree Mitchell has been good for kentucky and the promotion has been mostly harmless.

That being said, this is a puzzling move, he better have some good names up his sleeve


UK was a perfect situation for a good coach once we got an AD willing to put some money into the program. We may have some more games at Rupp but it's not cost effective since the university doesn't own it. The story of DeMoss' 'burnout' was greatly exaggerated Wink .


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PostPosted: 04/05/14 5:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

With 2 openings right as the WBCA Convention began, is it safe to say no one had more potential assistants flocking to speak to a head coach than Matthew Mitchell? Has to be big demand to join a staff of a team loaded with young talent.


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PostPosted: 04/06/14 1:51 pm    ::: Re: Wow Reply Reply with quote

Stephen Shirley wrote:
$140,000 for an asst coach. That's probably more pay than for 50% of the head coaches in Div 1.
?

Or the 185k they paid the dude.


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PostPosted: 04/10/14 2:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

"If I gave him (Mitchell) analytical information about an official or something, that's not what he wanted," House said. "He wanted somebody to tell him how great it was, how great of a day it was going to be and 'we're going to have a great game' instead of an experienced coach who would provide insight and analysis. Neither one of those methods is right or wrong. It just didn't fit."

http://www.centralkynews.com/wildcathoops/uk-hoops-and-assistants-pillow-house-part-ways/article_f23510f6-bc39-11e3-bab5-001a4bcf6878.html


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PostPosted: 04/10/14 2:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

RP wrote:
"If I gave him (Mitchell) analytical information about an official or something, that's not what he wanted," House said. "He wanted somebody to tell him how great it was, how great of a day it was going to be and 'we're going to have a great game' instead of an experienced coach who would provide insight and analysis. Neither one of those methods is right or wrong. It just didn't fit."

http://www.centralkynews.com/wildcathoops/uk-hoops-and-assistants-pillow-house-part-ways/article_f23510f6-bc39-11e3-bab5-001a4bcf6878.html


Yikes...not sure I would have gone quite that far with the comments.


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PostPosted: 04/10/14 2:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

RP wrote:
"If I gave him (Mitchell) analytical information about an official or something, that's not what he wanted," House said. "He wanted somebody to tell him how great it was, how great of a day it was going to be and 'we're going to have a great game' instead of an experienced coach who would provide insight and analysis. Neither one of those methods is right or wrong. It just didn't fit."

http://www.centralkynews.com/wildcathoops/uk-hoops-and-assistants-pillow-house-part-ways/article_f23510f6-bc39-11e3-bab5-001a4bcf6878.html



Exactly; Jeff wanted to explore new opportunities too. He'll be a really good head coach when picked up by someone.


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PostPosted: 04/10/14 3:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
RP wrote:
"If I gave him (Mitchell) analytical information about an official or something, that's not what he wanted," House said. "He wanted somebody to tell him how great it was, how great of a day it was going to be and 'we're going to have a great game' instead of an experienced coach who would provide insight and analysis. Neither one of those methods is right or wrong. It just didn't fit."

http://www.centralkynews.com/wildcathoops/uk-hoops-and-assistants-pillow-house-part-ways/article_f23510f6-bc39-11e3-bab5-001a4bcf6878.html



Exactly; Jeff wanted to explore new opportunities too. He'll be a really good head coach when picked up by someone.


He's been in coaching for 27-28 years. Why hasn't he been a head coach yet?


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PostPosted: 04/10/14 3:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

~UK~ wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
RP wrote:
"If I gave him (Mitchell) analytical information about an official or something, that's not what he wanted," House said. "He wanted somebody to tell him how great it was, how great of a day it was going to be and 'we're going to have a great game' instead of an experienced coach who would provide insight and analysis. Neither one of those methods is right or wrong. It just didn't fit."

http://www.centralkynews.com/wildcathoops/uk-hoops-and-assistants-pillow-house-part-ways/article_f23510f6-bc39-11e3-bab5-001a4bcf6878.html



Exactly; Jeff wanted to explore new opportunities too. He'll be a really good head coach when picked up by someone.


He's been in coaching for 27-28 years. Why hasn't he been a head coach yet?


To my knowledge, unsure about college vs pro for a lot of that. That's why he left Chicago to go back to college this year. UK just wasn't the right match for he and Mitchell.


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dtsnms wrote:
~UK~ wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
RP wrote:
"If I gave him (Mitchell) analytical information about an official or something, that's not what he wanted," House said. "He wanted somebody to tell him how great it was, how great of a day it was going to be and 'we're going to have a great game' instead of an experienced coach who would provide insight and analysis. Neither one of those methods is right or wrong. It just didn't fit."

http://www.centralkynews.com/wildcathoops/uk-hoops-and-assistants-pillow-house-part-ways/article_f23510f6-bc39-11e3-bab5-001a4bcf6878.html



Exactly; Jeff wanted to explore new opportunities too. He'll be a really good head coach when picked up by someone.


He's been in coaching for 27-28 years. Why hasn't he been a head coach yet?


To my knowledge, unsure about college vs pro for a lot of that. That's why he left Chicago to go back to college this year. UK just wasn't the right match for he and Mitchell.


If someone is that "wishy washy" for over 25 years, I'm not sure they really do have what it takes to be a head coach...I mean, make a decision already. LOL...


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PostPosted: 04/13/14 10:37 am    ::: Valerie Stll Reply Reply with quote

Valerie is interested in joining Mitchell's staff. All time leading scorer at UK, played pro both here and abroad, coached HS an WNBA, PhD, published author and actively wants to be considered. I hope UK is listening.


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PostPosted: 04/13/14 10:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

purduefanatic wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
~UK~ wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
RP wrote:
"If I gave him (Mitchell) analytical information about an official or something, that's not what he wanted," House said. "He wanted somebody to tell him how great it was, how great of a day it was going to be and 'we're going to have a great game' instead of an experienced coach who would provide insight and analysis. Neither one of those methods is right or wrong. It just didn't fit."

http://www.centralkynews.com/wildcathoops/uk-hoops-and-assistants-pillow-house-part-ways/article_f23510f6-bc39-11e3-bab5-001a4bcf6878.html



Exactly; Jeff wanted to explore new opportunities too. He'll be a really good head coach when picked up by someone.


He's been in coaching for 27-28 years. Why hasn't he been a head coach yet?


To my knowledge, unsure about college vs pro for a lot of that. That's why he left Chicago to go back to college this year. UK just wasn't the right match for he and Mitchell.


If someone is that "wishy washy" for over 25 years, I'm not sure they really do have what it takes to be a head coach...I mean, make a decision already. LOL...


I'm not sure I'm totally buying the "mutual decision" aspect. From his comments, House comes off as sarcastic and somewhat bitter.

Who walks away from a cushy $185,000/yr job to "explore other opportunities"? Okay buddy, explore the unemployment line.



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PostPosted: 04/13/14 2:52 pm    ::: Re: Valerie Stll Reply Reply with quote

cujo wrote:
Valerie is interested in joining Mitchell's staff. All time leading scorer at UK, played pro both here and abroad, coached HS an WNBA, PhD, published author and actively wants to be considered. I hope UK is listening.


Not sure where you're hearing this from. I'd be surprised(but thrilled) if she's interested. It took a while to even get her back on campus due to various "issues" she had with the school.


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Shades wrote:
purduefanatic wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
~UK~ wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
RP wrote:
"If I gave him (Mitchell) analytical information about an official or something, that's not what he wanted," House said. "He wanted somebody to tell him how great it was, how great of a day it was going to be and 'we're going to have a great game' instead of an experienced coach who would provide insight and analysis. Neither one of those methods is right or wrong. It just didn't fit."

http://www.centralkynews.com/wildcathoops/uk-hoops-and-assistants-pillow-house-part-ways/article_f23510f6-bc39-11e3-bab5-001a4bcf6878.html



Exactly; Jeff wanted to explore new opportunities too. He'll be a really good head coach when picked up by someone.


He's been in coaching for 27-28 years. Why hasn't he been a head coach yet?


To my knowledge, unsure about college vs pro for a lot of that. That's why he left Chicago to go back to college this year. UK just wasn't the right match for he and Mitchell.


If someone is that "wishy washy" for over 25 years, I'm not sure they really do have what it takes to be a head coach...I mean, make a decision already. LOL...


I'm not sure I'm totally buying the "mutual decision" aspect. From his comments, House comes off as sarcastic and somewhat bitter.

Who walks away from a cushy $185,000/yr job to "explore other opportunities"? Okay buddy, explore the unemployment line.


He has been coaching for 28 years, so if he has saved his money wisely he doesn't need the $185,000 or whatever was left on his contract, so he can probably survive a year or two without working, it's not like he is just out of college and needs that money. There are many coaches who decide to "explore other opportunities" after coaching for many years.


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My source is reliable and trusted. Check @ValerieStill1


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