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ThreeBall25
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2791
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Posted: 04/01/08 10:29 pm ::: |
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Wow. I don't know how UConn pulled it off, but they did. A FINAL FOUR. It feels like forever. It hasn't even sunk in yet. That and my roommates think I have tourettes...
There is NO WAY that Maya will play that bad in the Final Four. I think she will come out with a vengence (hopefully)... And I also hope that Wiggins, as much as I LOVE HER, doesn't drop 40+ on us. |
Heck no! There's no Carson wearing #5 for Stanford. Stanford doesn't play a 55 defense and run the clock down to 2 seconds and take away possessions. Maya should score 27. |
I couldn't agree more. Carson, the 3x DPOY in the BE, did a HELL of a job on Maya. But, which was to my surprise, was the D UConn played on Prince...
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beknighted
Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 11050 Location: Lost in D.C.
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Posted: 04/01/08 11:14 pm ::: |
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Just finished watching the game. Congratulations to UConn. They played with a lot of guts and found a way to win with their star utterly contained.
I have to say that I was stunned by how well the RU strategy worked in the first 15 minutes. It's not clear to me what adjustments Geno made, but it certainly helped that Brittany Ray had foul issues. I have to admit I thought RU might just do it when they got back to up by 7, but I guess it wasn't meant to be.
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njjosh
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Posted: 04/01/08 11:16 pm ::: |
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beknighted wrote: |
Just finished watching the game. Congratulations to UConn. They played with a lot of guts and found a way to win with their star utterly contained.
I have to say that I was stunned by how well the RU strategy worked in the first 15 minutes. It's not clear to me what adjustments Geno made, but it certainly helped that Brittany Ray had foul issues. I have to admit I thought RU might just do it when they got back to up by 7, but I guess it wasn't meant to be. |
I feel bad for you BeK, especially after the promise of last year's run.
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An_nic
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Smack dab in the middle of Washington State
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Posted: 04/01/08 11:35 pm ::: |
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I just got back from stuff around town...glad to see that UCONN won. Those seniors deserved it.
Did anyone by chance record this?? I'll pay for a copy.
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beknighted
Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 11050 Location: Lost in D.C.
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Posted: 04/01/08 11:49 pm ::: |
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Thanks for the nice thoughts. I find I'm not as sad as I expected I might be, either. Probably because they had to fight through key injuries even to get this far and had to play the #1 #1, I didn't really have the kinds of expectations I had at the beginning of the year.
That does not, however, diminish the white hot burning rage I feel at the tournament committee for the most ridiculous excuse for a bracket in a long time. It seems fairly likely to me that the bracketing actually decided two of the four FF teams.
(Meanwhile, on the RU board, the mandatory post-loss self-flagellation is well under way. UConn fans, in particular, will be happy to hear that certain members of the board appear to have concluded that RU will never win another game again.)
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cthskzfn
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 12851 Location: In a world where a PSYCHOpath like Trump isn't potus.
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Posted: 04/01/08 11:51 pm ::: |
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huskies make the gut check and pull out the win...it was looking too much like last year for the first 15:00....
i need a rest.
good luck in tampa, UCONN!
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mercfan3
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Posted: 04/01/08 11:55 pm ::: |
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beknighted wrote: |
Thanks for the nice thoughts. I find I'm not as sad as I expected I might be, either. Probably because they had to fight through key injuries even to get this far and had to play the #1 #1, I didn't really have the kinds of expectations I had at the beginning of the year.
That does not, however, diminish the white hot burning rage I feel at the tournament committee for the most ridiculous excuse for a bracket in a long time. It seems fairly likely to me that the bracketing actually decided two of the four FF teams.
(Meanwhile, on the RU board, the mandatory post-loss self-flagellation is well under way. UConn fans, in particular, will be happy to hear that certain members of the board appear to have concluded that RU will never win another game again.) |
Couldn't agree more..Uconn and Rutgers should be playing each other in the FF. There was no way Rutgers was the last #1 seed...
BTW, Swanier got snubbed *sigh* good for Maya though, for speaking up. She really is really mature for a Freshman.
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Mirage32
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Posted: 04/02/08 12:33 am ::: |
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Beknighted, I love you!!!!! For about one half I thought your post about Rutgers playing offense was not an April fools joke.
Please keep the posts coming, even though your team isn't in the tournament anymore....
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IllogicalVulcan
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Posted: 04/02/08 12:35 am ::: |
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At the end of the game, I realized that I wasn't so much sad that Rutgers lost, but that I would never get to see this Rutgers team play again. And I'll really miss Carson in a Rutgers uni. *sigh*
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CourtsideTix
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 4565 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: 04/02/08 6:34 am ::: |
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beknighted wrote: |
That does not, however, diminish the white hot burning rage I feel at the tournament committee for the most ridiculous excuse for a bracket in a long time. It seems fairly likely to me that the bracketing actually decided two of the four FF teams.
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Monday night, just before the first of the Elite Eight games, ESPN put up a very interesting graphic showing that Maryland and Stanford had played each other only ONCE before, same for LSU/UNC, same for Tenn/Texas A&M, but that Rutgers and UConn had TWENTY SEVEN prior meetings.
The bracket was absurd. And while I love LSU, no way they should have been playing in the Sweet Sixteen on what was effectively a home court. How easily that problem and the Rutgers/UConn problem would have been solved by a switch of two teams.
BeK and Queenie: my sympathies to you and the other Rutgers fans this morning.
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DivAAA
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njjosh
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Posted: 04/02/08 8:14 am ::: |
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beknighted wrote: |
Thanks for the nice thoughts. I find I'm not as sad as I expected I might be, either. Probably because they had to fight through key injuries even to get this far and had to play the #1 #1, I didn't really have the kinds of expectations I had at the beginning of the year.
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Are you not upset at Stringer for getting so badly outcoached in the second half, and for letting Ajavon dribble away all but 5 seconds of the shot clock before forcing up a horrible shot on so many possessions? Or are you used to such shortcomings on her part by now?
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beknighted
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Posted: 04/02/08 9:54 am ::: |
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Beknighted, I love you!!!!! For about one half I thought your post about Rutgers playing offense was not an April fools joke.
Please keep the posts coming, even though your team isn't in the tournament anymore.... |
To give credit where credit is due, that was njjosh's AF post. There was a little while in the first half when I also was thinking it might actually have been true.
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jaye
Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 6723 Location: Georgia
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sunnydeefan3
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Posted: 04/02/08 12:48 pm ::: |
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i just finished watching the game on tape (i had to miss it yesterday cause i had class ) and while i'm obviously proud of the whole uconn team, ketia hitting those 6 free throws at the end to seal the deal made me even prouder to be a uconn fan and i still have a smile on my face that may not go away all day . clutch players come through when it's needed most, and that's what she did .
maya had a hard game, and i'd have to agree (at least so far in her career) about rutgers being her notre dame, but i give her all the credit in the world for playing hard even when her shots weren't falling and being there for some crucial baskets. i can't wait to see how she does in the final four:).
i can't really comment on c viv's coaching because i'm not much of an expert on rutgers and haven't watched them play very many teams other than uconn and tennessee, but i do have to say that some of the choices they made down the stretch really hurt them and let uconn pull away. my one comment about the coaching would be that i thought geno coached a great game tonight (i know i'm a bit biased , but it's hard to deny it). like the commentators said at one point, the team that won this game survived as much as won, and i attribute a lot of uconn's second half comeback to choices made by geno, along with great players making great plays when it counted most. making the call for maya to take that 3 when she'd been in a shooting slump up until that point, and knowing that she could make it and that that was what she needed, that was yet another thing for me to add to the list of why i respect geno's coaching talent SO much.
aww, and geno and mel, so adorable ...that is why i love this team (nice avatar mercfan, as always )_________________ "Taurasi has boundless energy and is still -- even during the national anthem, she is bouncing side-to-side. She frowned when informed that she was actually a calming influence with her words. "I say it in a fiery way, though," the Phoenix Mercury guard said."
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jaye
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Posted: 04/02/08 2:26 pm ::: |
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if it was geno's plan for maya to take that three.....he must have told her with telepathy.....and the fact that the three went in was just chance....if it had missed people would have been talking about what a crappy idea it was for a player that hadn't hit jack all game taking an important shot like that.....
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thatGAgirl
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mercfan3
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Posted: 04/02/08 2:40 pm ::: |
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jaye wrote: |
if it was geno's plan for maya to take that three.....he must have told her with telepathy.....and the fact that the three went in was just chance....if it had missed people would have been talking about what a crappy idea it was for a player that hadn't hit jack all game taking an important shot like that..... |
Any player...true story
But the likes of Holdsclaw..Taurasi..Parker..and Moore...(among others)are different types of players...no matter what their games has been like..you want them taking the big shot.
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Swoopes_Tompson_Comets22
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bballfan2005
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beknighted
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Posted: 04/02/08 3:19 pm ::: |
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bballfan2005 wrote: |
jaye wrote: |
if it was geno's plan for maya to take that three.....he must have told her with telepathy.....and the fact that the three went in was just chance....if it had missed people would have been talking about what a crappy idea it was for a player that hadn't hit jack all game taking an important shot like that..... |
Moore shoots over 40% from three, and she was 2-6 from the floor up until that three-pointer. She was the right person taking that shot (unlike Montgomery, who went 1-9 from three in that game). |
As an objective matter, I agree that it wasn't unreasonable for her to take that shot. Her crummy game was not a result of bad shooting, but of not having the ball to shoot, and she is a very good 3-point shooter. I know that I figured she'd score pretty much every time she got the ball anywhere where a shot was possible.
However, I think a lot of people would have found it hard to distinguish between a crummy game caused by not having opportunities and a crummy game caused by shooting badly, and she would have been criticized, regardless of whether it was justified, if the shot hadn't gone in and if UConn had gone on to lose. It wouldn't have been fair, but if life were fair, a lot of things would be different.
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NYL_WNBA_FAN
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Posted: 04/02/08 4:19 pm ::: |
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On the other hand, Matee Ajavon went 8-23--and a number of those shots went in by chance. She's shooting below 40% from the field for the year--yet took twice as many shots as the player who led RU to the Elite 8 (Carson).
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The more I see of Essence the more I want her on the Lib, which is a 180 degree turn from how I felt a month ago. I love the fact that she wants the ball in crunch time. I like the fact that she knows the game very well and knows where the ball belongs in different given situations. I see a lot of Vickie Johnson in her, as I mentioned in another thread. A player who, once she fully develops, can have a consistently positive impact on the outcome of a game even while only scoring about 10 ppg.
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bballfan2005
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Posted: 04/02/08 4:21 pm ::: |
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Essence has displayed a number of offensive moves/tools that I didn't know she possessed in her arsenal. I think she or Quianna Chaney would be a great fit for NY at the #7 pick.
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jaye
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