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gpark33
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| Yep, that's what I heard too.
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I find that interesting.
Although, I'm not surprised. As long as Pat and Geno have been coaching, they know who really is good and who is not. I would think that while the two may not like each other, they have immense respect for each other (moreso Pat for Geno) and that'd be why she did that?
Who knows.
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| Posted: 03/31/08 5:25 pm ::: |
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| -shrug- Makes sense to me. You don't have to like someone to respect/acknowledge them for their ability. It happens all the time in regular life, no? |
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| braveniler58 wrote: |
| Although, I'm not surprised. As long as Pat and Geno have been coaching, they know who really is good and who is not. I would think that while the two may not like each other, they have immense respect for each other (moreso Pat for Geno) and that'd be why she did that? |
Just from excerpts I've seen from Geno's book, it sounds like at the heart of him, he has a lot of respect for Pat too. I think he just likes to play the rivalry up a little more than she does.
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This was said by NL about five minutes after she also alleged that Michael Cooper doesn't know who he's drafting with the number one pick.
I'm not sure which I'd believe, considering the mouth that both came from.
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This was said by NL about five minutes after she also alleged that Michael Cooper doesn't know who he's drafting with the number one pick.
I'm not sure which I'd believe, considering the mouth that both came from. |
Cooper has actually said this...we all know he's full of crap (well, all of us except Nancy apparently), but he said it.
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First, maybe Cooper isn't just posturing. With a choice of Parker and Fowles, and Leslie a short-timer, I don't know if I'd pick Parker-- can you name a better post player who's going to be in the draft in the next two to three years? Because I could name at least two great 3/4s who will be coming out in the next three years.
Second, forget about whether Pat actually voted for Geno. Given his talent, it's a dubious choice. You want a coach of the year? How about Gary Blair, who has done as much (as of this writing) with far less marquee talent? How about the coaches for Geo. Washington, or Louisville or Pitt, all of whom went further with less talent (and, to carry over from another thread, far less budget) than Geno has ever coached? I've never coached in my life, but I'd bet that I could take UConn's roster, do little more than roll out the balls at practice, and still have a winning record. Let's see Geno get to a Final Four when his best player is Sarah-Jo Lawrence or Angel McCoughtry-- that would be a COY performance.
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| bballjunkee212 wrote: |
First, maybe Cooper isn't just posturing. With a choice of Parker and Fowles, and Leslie a short-timer, I don't know if I'd pick Parker-- can you name a better post player who's going to be in the draft in the next two to three years? Because I could name at least two great 3/4s who will be coming out in the next three years.
Second, forget about whether Pat actually voted for Geno. Given his talent, it's a dubious choice. You want a coach of the year? How about Gary Blair, who has done as much (as of this writing) with far less marquee talent? How about the coaches for Geo. Washington, or Louisville or Pitt, all of whom went further with less talent (and, to carry over from another thread, far less budget) than Geno has ever coached? I've never coached in my life, but I'd bet that I could take UConn's roster, do little more than roll out the balls at practice, and still have a winning record. Let's see Geno get to a Final Four when his best player is Sarah-Jo Lawrence or Angel McCoughtry-- that would be a COY performance. |
But Sarah Jo Lawrence or Angel McCoughtry didn't get to the final four.
They didn't get to the final 8.
You know why he gets the talent he does, the budget he does? Cause he won with the little talent he had, and built the program up. Geno and Pat get great players because they are the best coaches.
And he got the award this year because despite losing 2 and a half starters (In fact, 1 starter is still in the starting lineup from the begning of the year. ) His team only lost one game, through arguably the best conference and a pretty tough schedule, and remained most of the year.
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| bballjunkee212 wrote: |
First, maybe Cooper isn't just posturing. With a choice of Parker and Fowles, and Leslie a short-timer, I don't know if I'd pick Parker-- can you name a better post player who's going to be in the draft in the next two to three years? Because I could name at least two great 3/4s who will be coming out in the next three years.
Second, forget about whether Pat actually voted for Geno. Given his talent, it's a dubious choice. You want a coach of the year? How about Gary Blair, who has done as much (as of this writing) with far less marquee talent? How about the coaches for Geo. Washington, or Louisville or Pitt, all of whom went further with less talent (and, to carry over from another thread, far less budget) than Geno has ever coached? I've never coached in my life, but I'd bet that I could take UConn's roster, do little more than roll out the balls at practice, and still have a winning record. Let's see Geno get to a Final Four when his best player is Sarah-Jo Lawrence or Angel McCoughtry-- that would be a COY performance. |
But Sarah Jo Lawrence or Angel McCoughtry didn't get to the final four.
They didn't get to the final 8.
You know why he gets the talent he does, the budget he does? Cause he won with the little talent he had, and built the program up. Geno and Pat get great players because they are the best coaches.
And he got the award this year because despite losing 2 and a half starters (In fact, 1 starter is still in the starting lineup from the begning of the year. ) His team only lost one game, through arguably the best conference and a pretty tough schedule, and remained most of the year. |
Pat and Geno are great players, but neither of them got to the final four without blue chippers. Geno had one in his first final four team in '91 or '92-- I forget her name-- was it Kerry Bascomb? In '80s, when Pat won her first set of three titles, she had the top talent. Neither has taken a taken a team to the final four where their best players were of the caliber of the players I named. I stand by my original point, which is that many coaches do a great deal with less talent.
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First, maybe Cooper isn't just posturing. With a choice of Parker and Fowles, and Leslie a short-timer, I don't know if I'd pick Parker-- can you name a better post player who's going to be in the draft in the next two to three years? Because I could name at least two great 3/4s who will be coming out in the next three years.
Second, forget about whether Pat actually voted for Geno. Given his talent, it's a dubious choice. You want a coach of the year? How about Gary Blair, who has done as much (as of this writing) with far less marquee talent? How about the coaches for Geo. Washington, or Louisville or Pitt, all of whom went further with less talent (and, to carry over from another thread, far less budget) than Geno has ever coached? I've never coached in my life, but I'd bet that I could take UConn's roster, do little more than roll out the balls at practice, and still have a winning record. Let's see Geno get to a Final Four when his best player is Sarah-Jo Lawrence or Angel McCoughtry-- that would be a COY performance. |
But Sarah Jo Lawrence or Angel McCoughtry didn't get to the final four.
They didn't get to the final 8.
You know why he gets the talent he does, the budget he does? Cause he won with the little talent he had, and built the program up. Geno and Pat get great players because they are the best coaches.
And he got the award this year because despite losing 2 and a half starters (In fact, 1 starter is still in the starting lineup from the begning of the year. ) His team only lost one game, through arguably the best conference and a pretty tough schedule, and remained most of the year. |
Pat and Geno are great players, but neither of them got to the final four without blue chippers. Geno had one in his first final four team in '91 or '92-- I forget her name-- was it Kerry Bascomb? In '80s, when Pat won her first set of three titles, she had the top talent. Neither has taken a taken a team to the final four where their best players were of the caliber of the players I named. I stand by my original point, which is that many coaches do a great deal with less talent. |
Can you name a team who didn't have at least one player with top talent who got to the final four.
I stand by my point, they wouldn't get those players if they weren't the best coaches.
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