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UTexRulz23
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 Posted: 03/16/08 5:18 pm ::: NCAA Tournament Selection |
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How about a thread just for talk about the bracket?
When does it come out? Who's in/out?
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| Posted: 03/16/08 5:24 pm ::: |
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| Bracket comes out sometime tomorrow evening, but I don't know the specifics.
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| Posted: 03/16/08 5:25 pm ::: |
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| jimmyk wrote: |
| Bracket comes out sometime tomorrow evening, but I don't know the specifics. |
7 pm est ESPN2 is Selection Monday
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| Posted: 03/16/08 6:40 pm ::: |
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I just did this in like 20 minutes, but...
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Greensboro New Orleans Oklahoma City Spokane
1 Connecticut North Carolina Tennessee Stanford
2 Texas A&M LSU Maryland Rutgers
3 Duke Baylor California West Virginia
4 Kansas State Oklahoma State Notre Dame Virginia
5 Old Dominion Utah Oklahoma Xavier
6 George Wash. Pittsburgh Ohio State Georgia Tech
7 Texas Syracuse Louisville Vanderbilt
8 Arizona State Georgia Hartford Nebraska
9 Marist James Madison Iowa State Iowa
10 Auburn Wyoming TCU Temple
11 Chattanooga Purdue Drake Minnesota
12 New Mexico Illinois State West. Kent. Robert Morris
13 Liberty SMU UCSB Montana
14 ETSU Murray State Miami-Ohio San Diego
15 UTSA Coppin St. Fresno St. Cornell
16 Bucknell Cleveland St. Jackson St. Oral Roberts |
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| Posted: 03/16/08 6:40 pm ::: |
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Stanford, Connecticut, Maryland and UTEP are going to be the "featured" teams...
I guess that means there will be camera crews on hand to get reaction and interview the players like last year.
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ripleydc
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| Posted: 03/16/08 8:29 pm ::: |
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| ZoCroSixPence wrote: |
| 7 pm est ESPN2 is Selection Monday |
slight correction....it's on ESPN & ESPNHD (not ESPN2). the time is right....Selection Monday is scheduled to run 7 to 8 PM EST.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnGuide
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| Posted: 03/16/08 8:44 pm ::: |
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I just did this in like 20 minutes, but...
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Greensboro New Orleans Oklahoma City Spokane
1 Connecticut North Carolina Tennessee Stanford
2 Texas A&M LSU Maryland Rutgers
3 Duke Baylor California West Virginia
4 Kansas State Oklahoma State Notre Dame Virginia
5 Old Dominion Utah Oklahoma Xavier
6 George Wash. Pittsburgh Ohio State Georgia Tech
7 Texas Syracuse Louisville Vanderbilt
8 Arizona State Georgia Hartford Nebraska
9 Marist James Madison Iowa State Iowa
10 Auburn Wyoming TCU Temple
11 Chattanooga Purdue Drake Minnesota
12 New Mexico Illinois State West. Kent. Robert Morris
13 Liberty SMU UCSB Montana
14 ETSU Murray State Miami-Ohio San Diego
15 UTSA Coppin St. Fresno St. Cornell
16 Bucknell Cleveland St. Jackson St. Oral Roberts |
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Nope. The Committee will put UNC in Greensboro, I bet. although I'd LOVE to see ETSU take down Duke.
If that holds true, though, watch out for GW vs. Chattanooga. That'll be a good one.
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| Posted: 03/16/08 8:53 pm ::: |
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| Orange][Krush wrote: |
I just did this in like 20 minutes, but...
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Greensboro New Orleans Oklahoma City Spokane
1 Connecticut North Carolina Tennessee Stanford
2 Texas A&M LSU Maryland Rutgers
3 Duke Baylor California West Virginia
4 Kansas State Oklahoma State Notre Dame Virginia
5 Old Dominion Utah Oklahoma Xavier
6 George Wash. Pittsburgh Ohio State Georgia Tech
7 Texas Syracuse Louisville Vanderbilt
8 Arizona State Georgia Hartford Nebraska
9 Marist James Madison Iowa State Iowa
10 Auburn Wyoming TCU Temple
11 Chattanooga Purdue Drake Minnesota
12 New Mexico Illinois State West. Kent. Robert Morris
13 Liberty SMU UCSB Montana
14 ETSU Murray State Miami-Ohio San Diego
15 UTSA Coppin St. Fresno St. Cornell
16 Bucknell Cleveland St. Jackson St. Oral Roberts |
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Seriously, I love your bracket as a Xavier fan. However, there is no way that X gets a higher seed than GW. X will be lucky to get a 7, and will most likely get a 9 or worse. If Temple gets in, they will likely be a 12 as they will be among the last 4 in.
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| Posted: 03/16/08 9:15 pm ::: |
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I just thank God Charlie Creme doesn't do the real bracket. When will ESPN hire an actual women's basketball expert to run Bracketology? How did that guy get that job???
I actually get mad when I read his brackets.
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| Posted: 03/17/08 9:21 am ::: |
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| Orange][Krush wrote: |
I just did this in like 20 minutes, but...
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Greensboro New Orleans Oklahoma City Spokane
1 Connecticut North Carolina Tennessee Stanford
2 Texas A&M LSU Maryland Rutgers
3 Duke Baylor California West Virginia
4 Kansas State Oklahoma State Notre Dame Virginia
5 Old Dominion Utah Oklahoma Xavier
6 George Wash. Pittsburgh Ohio State Georgia Tech
7 Texas Syracuse Louisville Vanderbilt
8 Arizona State Georgia Hartford Nebraska
9 Marist James Madison Iowa State Iowa
10 Auburn Wyoming TCU Temple
11 Chattanooga Purdue Drake Minnesota
12 New Mexico Illinois State West. Kent. Robert Morris
13 Liberty SMU UCSB Montana
14 ETSU Murray State Miami-Ohio San Diego
15 UTSA Coppin St. Fresno St. Cornell
16 Bucknell Cleveland St. Jackson St. Oral Roberts |
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I think my alma mater JMU played themselves out by losing to VCU in the CAA semifinals......I'm not confident they get in, let alone get a 9 seed
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| Posted: 03/17/08 9:32 am ::: |
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Orange][Krush: I just did this in like 20 minutes, but...
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Greensboro New Orleans Oklahoma City Spokane
1 Connecticut North Carolina Tennessee Stanford
2 Texas A&M LSU Maryland Rutgers
3 Duke Baylor California West Virginia
4 Kansas State Oklahoma State Notre Dame Virginia
5 Old Dominion Utah Oklahoma Xavier
6 George Wash. Pittsburgh Ohio State Georgia Tech
7 Texas Syracuse Louisville Vanderbilt
8 Arizona State Georgia Hartford Nebraska
9 Marist James Madison Iowa State Iowa
10 Auburn Wyoming TCU Temple
11 Chattanooga Purdue Drake Minnesota
12 New Mexico Illinois State West. Kent. Robert Morris
13 Liberty SMU UCSB Montana
14 ETSU Murray State Miami-Ohio San Diego
15 UTSA Coppin St. Fresno St. Cornell
16 Bucknell Cleveland St. Jackson St. Oral Roberts |
So I guess UTEP doesn't make it?
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| Posted: 03/17/08 1:03 pm ::: |
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but this selection show is a waste of time. There won't be any "bracket analysis", as ESPN claims. Kara and Stacey will yap incessantly about the "magnificent seven" and tell us all about same stale players who, outside of Parker and Moore (and maybe Fowles), most casual fans could care less about. It's the same script year in and year out. We won't get full coverage and insightful analysis as we received from the ESPN analysts when CBS revealed the men's bracket. Why? Because many of the female analysts that ESPN hired don't even know enough about their own sport to talk about anything not UConn, Tennessee, UNC-related. If Kara and Stacey knew more about the sport they commentate, we'd get more than a one-hour Mickey Mouse affair.
Women's basketball deserves way better than Kara's and Stacey's cheerleading. The Jimmy Dykes and Fran Fraschillas of men's hoops are slightly above average, but they'd be superstars in women's hoops.
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| Posted: 03/17/08 1:19 pm ::: |
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From the standpoint of ticket sales, if UConn gets Greensboro over Carolina, then I'd send the Heels to Oklahoma City so Tennessee could get New Orleans and maximize the Lady Vol gate. I realize that this might well produce a Tenn.-LSU matchup in a regional final--not great but not forbidden, as I understand it.
Understand that if Carolina doesn't get Greensboro, they're not going to sell many tickets anyway. Any place outside of central North Carolina is too far for all but a few hundred of their fans, 500 tops.
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| Posted: 03/17/08 1:55 pm ::: |
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but this selection show is a waste of time. There won't be any "bracket analysis", as ESPN claims. Kara and Stacey will yap incessantly about the "magnificent seven" and tell us all about same stale players who, outside of Parker and Moore (and maybe Fowles), most casual fans could care less about. It's the same script year in and year out. We won't get full coverage and insightful analysis as we received from the ESPN analysts when CBS revealed the men's bracket. Why? Because many of the female analysts that ESPN hired don't even know enough about their own sport to talk about anything not UConn, Tennessee, UNC-related. If Kara and Stacey knew more about the sport they commentate, we'd get more than a one-hour Mickey Mouse affair.
Women's basketball deserves way better than Kara's and Stacey's cheerleading. The Jimmy Dykes and Fran Fraschillas of men's hoops are slightly above average, but they'd be superstars in women's hoops. |
I don't know how much of that you can blame on ESPN's announcers. I just don't think that there's enough depth in the women's game to warrant 2-3 hours of analysis.
How many 5-8 seeds are you really expecting to push the triumvirate of UCONN/TN/UNC? Teams are bringing razors to knife fights while the top tier of teams are packing uzis. UConn and TN could possibly ride to the elite eight on talent alone...
As talent disperses and more upsets happen, you'll see more attention toward smaller schools and more obscure players (Xavier with Harris/Phillips being one).
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| Posted: 03/17/08 2:12 pm ::: |
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| Well, by looking at recruiting in the 2008 class, the trend isn't going away from UConn and Tennessee any time soon. Expect more of the same.
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| Posted: 03/17/08 2:32 pm ::: |
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| Well, by looking at recruiting in the 2008 class, the trend isn't going away from UConn and Tennessee any time soon. Expect more of the same. |
add Rutgers to that list and I absolutely agree!
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| Posted: 03/17/08 2:39 pm ::: |
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I don't know how much of that you can blame on ESPN's announcers. I just don't think that there's enough depth in the women's game to warrant 2-3 hours of analysis.
How many 5-8 seeds are you really expecting to push the triumvirate of UCONN/TN/UNC? Teams are bringing razors to knife fights while the top tier of teams are packing uzis. UConn and TN could possibly ride to the elite eight on talent alone...
As talent disperses and more upsets happen, you'll see more attention toward smaller schools and more obscure players (Xavier with Harris/Phillips being one). |
It's March. Anything can happen. I'm not calling for early-round upsets of UConn or Tennessee (sorry, but it's absurd to include UNC with those two teams given the inexperience in the backcourt) even though that would be nice. I don't think it'd hurt to discuss something other than ESPN/Mayagate, the RU/UT clock controversy, Brenda Frese's twins, how Van Chancellor took fashion tips from Sylvia Hatchell, or 'Furd's monumental collapse ten years ago.
I guess I'm tired of ESPN's used car salesman routine. Be direct, damnit! I'd rather they be up-front about the lack of analysis as opposed to trying to cover it up.
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| Posted: 03/17/08 2:41 pm ::: |
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but this selection show is a waste of time. There won't be any "bracket analysis", as ESPN claims. Kara and Stacey will yap incessantly about the "magnificent seven" and tell us all about same stale players who, outside of Parker and Moore (and maybe Fowles), most casual fans could care less about. It's the same script year in and year out. We won't get full coverage and insightful analysis as we received from the ESPN analysts when CBS revealed the men's bracket. Why? Because many of the female analysts that ESPN hired don't even know enough about their own sport to talk about anything not UConn, Tennessee, UNC-related. If Kara and Stacey knew more about the sport they commentate, we'd get more than a one-hour Mickey Mouse affair.
Women's basketball deserves way better than Kara's and Stacey's cheerleading. The Jimmy Dykes and Fran Fraschillas of men's hoops are slightly above average, but they'd be superstars in women's hoops. |
I don't know how much of that you can blame on ESPN's announcers. I just don't think that there's enough depth in the women's game to warrant 2-3 hours of analysis.
How many 5-8 seeds are you really expecting to push the triumvirate of UCONN/TN/UNC? Teams are bringing razors to knife fights while the top tier of teams are packing uzis. UConn and TN could possibly ride to the elite eight on talent alone...
As talent disperses and more upsets happen, you'll see more attention toward smaller schools and more obscure players (Xavier with Harris/Phillips being one). |
I think you both make a very good point. We're going to get the same crap from Kara and Stacey about Parker and Wiggins and Fowles etc.
But beyond that, I'm sure it get's a bit tough, but I think it can be done. You can talk about Louisville and Duke and A&M and their potential. You can also talk about the early round match-ups and potential upsets by mid-majors. There is something there, but not nearly as much as the men.
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| Posted: 03/17/08 2:44 pm ::: |
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| Well, by looking at recruiting in the 2008 class, the trend isn't going away from UConn and Tennessee any time soon. Expect more of the same. |
add Rutgers to that list and I absolutely agree! |
Well, Tennesse is losing a great deal this year (Parker, Hornbuckle, Bobbit, Anosike, Auguste). They had to reload.
But Rutgers getting as many great players is new. I think it's an opening. The floodgates going away from the other schools won't be immediate.
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| Posted: 03/17/08 2:46 pm ::: |
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I think the nature of the women's show is different from the nature of the men's shows because the women's show also is trying to sell the games for rating purposes. (ESPN certainly isn't doing that for its men's shows, since it doesn't have the games, and CBS doesn't need to do that, either.) That means that they're not focusing on the geeked-out fans (like us). Instead, they want the casual fan who happened to see the selection show. Naturally, they'll direct them to the "star" teams. That's just how it is.
That's one reason why Rutgers has gotten so much pub this year - after the Imus incident, RU became one of the three or four teams people who don't follow the sport regularly knew. (Heck, during the NEC tournament final yesterday on ESPN-U, they were still touting RU as a possible #1 seed - and, no, I didn't believe it even though I wanted it to be true.)
As for Stacey and Kara, I won't disagree with any comments about Stacey, but Kara seems to know what she's about. When she's given a chance, she can do some pretty good analysis of games and teams.
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| Posted: 03/17/08 2:56 pm ::: |
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I don't know how much of that you can blame on ESPN's announcers. I just don't think that there's enough depth in the women's game to warrant 2-3 hours of analysis.
How many 5-8 seeds are you really expecting to push the triumvirate of UCONN/TN/UNC? Teams are bringing razors to knife fights while the top tier of teams are packing uzis. UConn and TN could possibly ride to the elite eight on talent alone...
As talent disperses and more upsets happen, you'll see more attention toward smaller schools and more obscure players (Xavier with Harris/Phillips being one). |
It's March. Anything can happen. I'm not calling for early-round upsets of UConn or Tennessee (sorry, but it's absurd to include UNC with those two teams given the inexperience in the backcourt) even though that would be nice. I don't think it'd hurt to discuss something other than ESPN/Mayagate, the RU/UT clock controversy, Brenda Frese's twins, how Van Chancellor took fashion tips from Sylvia Hatchell, or 'Furd's monumental collapse ten years ago.
I guess I'm tired of ESPN's used car salesman routine. Be direct, damnit! I'd rather they be up-front about the lack of analysis as opposed to trying to cover it up. |
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I know what you mean. Some topics I'd like to see them consider:
Free Abby Waner.
Oklahoma's WNBA program: The ins and outs of how Plumley's defense will make you look like a solid lottery pick with special guest commentary by Tisdale.
Exactly how tall is 6'4"? Parker/Charles/Humphrey/Anosike/Paris...?
The logistics behind C. Viv's offensive scheme.
Weaveologists and the hair wars between Houston and Hampton.
The freshman class. Are there any more other than Maya?
Jantel Lavender? Is she the next Jess Davenport?
Neglected posts and the guards that hate to pass...Vaughn/Ajavon, Larkins/McCants + DeGraffenreid...
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