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PostPosted: 02/05/08 10:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Mirage32 wrote:
Great game by RU. Tremendous defense as one would expect fromt the Scarlet Knights. UCONN sorely missed Kalana Greene in this game as Epiphany Prince's speed and quickness ate up any matchup she had in the second half.

No whiners here. Both of these teams will be a force in late March.


Great, most times when people's favorite teams lose they find a way to blame the Ref's and whatnot.



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The game story is up at ScarlektKnights.com. It's the long version of the AP story plus game notes and post-game comments from Geno, but not C. Viv (go figure).

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PostPosted: 02/06/08 12:05 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Did you really think that Rutgers would let you go undefeated UCONN?

Just back from the game and replaying it in my mind.
WOW what an exciting game. Prince was really feeling it tonight.
Maybe Geno should go back to wearing a tie?
Great game Rutgers...you made Geno see RED tonight



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I enjoyed this game very much.....recorded it and avoided finding out the score. I love upsets like this.....it's good for women's basketball!!! It was an entertaining game, great crowd (good for tv) and some amazing moments.....

Congrats Rutgers!


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PostPosted: 02/06/08 12:14 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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27 all in the second half too! Cool Just don't repeat this next Monday Piph. Evil or Very Mad


I agree... Great game Piph...Just don't bring it to Tenn Wink Razz



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Lib Fan wrote:
Did you really think that Rutgers would let you go undefeated UCONN?

Just back from the game and replaying it in my mind.
WOW what an exciting game. Prince was really feeling it tonight.
Maybe Geno should go back to wearing a tie?
Great game Rutgers...you made Geno see RED tonight


Congrats to Rutgers! I wish I could have seen this game Very Happy

Sounds like it was a battle the whole game.



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PostPosted: 02/06/08 12:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ESPN "video" report. (Debbie Antonelli calling in to report on the game- still fun to listen to)
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3232945&categoryId=2378529

Call-in interview w/Piph:
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3233034&categoryId=2378529


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PostPosted: 02/06/08 1:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Str8_Butta wrote:
Mirage32 wrote:
Great game by RU. Tremendous defense as one would expect fromt the Scarlet Knights. UCONN sorely missed Kalana Greene in this game as Epiphany Prince's speed and quickness ate up any matchup she had in the second half.

No whiners here. Both of these teams will be a force in late March.


Great, most times when people's favorite teams lose they find a way to blame the Ref's and whatnot.


I'll take that as a compliment...We'll see you at the Civic Center in a few weeks!



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Exclamation She's capable of it though. She's already twice the defender she ever was...but the points? She won't even feel that 33 tomorrow.

If Stringer's going to stick with the Pick-A-Chuck offense, she'd be far better off picking Piph than anyone else on the roster.

The idea that Piph could only dominate against cupcakes came from the misinformed who only knew what they read and didn't bother to see for themselves.

Also, regarding her drives, you think she's out of control until you have to guard her....or until you compare her to Matee.

She is deceptively strong and under control when she goes to the rack, which is why 9 times out of 10, she'll finish or get the foul. The scouting report on her at Bergtraum used to be to just stand there and wait for her to run you over....which very few 5'4 15 year olds in the PSAL were willing to do anyway.

By the summer before her senior year, the scouting report had to be thrown out. She had developed a stop and fake move, a stop and pop move, a stop and spin and a pull-up runner....all for her drives into the lane and enhanced her upper body control to the point where she basically elevates into your chest to force contact and take away your angle to block the shot.

Now that she's replaced fat with muscle and lost half a person, she's even better at taking the hit and finishing. With her range, if that jumper is falling, she's near impossible to check. UConn should have made her a passer. Not because she can't pass...I've seen her turn of Kobe and turn on Kidd...but because Rutgers can't shoot.

Piph took it back to Brooklyn tonight though. Stringer's got her humble and playing defense...the only two things she was missing.


I was sold on Piph Prince after the Maryland game (where she had like 10 assists and 20 some-odd points), so the fact that she dropped 33 and 6 doesn't surprise me so much as who she dropped it on. UConn is a very good defensive team, and they pride themselves on being able to take away the opposing team's best player. After watching some of the highlights of the game, I'm even more impressed with Prince and her ability to carry Rutgers. She made it look easy. I can only imagine what she'd be like if she was three inches taller. Shocked Still, she's damn good for 5-9.

I guess what impresses me the most re Prince is her ability to turn the corner and get to the rim almost every time she wants. She's not the smallest girl in the world and she doesn't have the longest limbs, but her ability to get head-and-shoulders past just about any defender she faces is impressive--and she can do it without the push off. It'll be interesting to see how Prince fares against the Hornbuckle/Auguste duo on Monday. She could be putting herself into the Kodak AA race with another standout performance.

I'd have to say that, for the moment, 33 and 6 is the best individual performance of the SEASON. Oh, and I'd be remorse if I didn't say that 73-71 was the best performance of the season thus far--especially coming off the so-so two-game road trip.



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PostPosted: 02/06/08 4:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

#7 Rutgers Dethrones #1 Connecticut, Prince Scores 33
By Violeta Yas: SPM NJ Writer
Posted Wednesday, February 6, 2008

PISCATAWAY, NJ - “The Giants Did It, So Can Rutgers!”
So said the sign in the stands at the Louis Brown Athletic Center Tuesday night. And indeed, the stars aligned in the tri-state area this week for both the New York Giants and the Rutgers Scarlet Knights, as RU (19-3, 9-1 BIG EAST) knocked off the University of Connecticut (21-1, 8-1 BIG EAST), the only undefeated team left in women’s Division I basketball, in a 73-71 nail-biter.


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PostPosted: 02/06/08 7:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

A UConn fan here.

A loss, ending a streak and maybe even number 1 ranking. They will still be there to compete in March.

However from one that loves the game and not just specific teams only....what a great game and Congrats to RU. They get pumped up for UConn and the rivalry only gets better.

On a side note. I got to meet and chat with Coach Stringer at the Women's Final Four in Boston when I did an exhibit on the History of Women's Basketball.

She is a wonderful person who has not only been thru much in her own life, but has had such a passion for the game since way back in the AIAW.

If I could sit down and have lunch at a table of 4 and discuss the history of the game since the early 70s, Coach Stringer would be one of them.

Looking forward to the next UConn RU game...may it be just as exciting....but with a bit different ending



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I didn't see the game since I do not have CSTV, but am I the only person who doesn't think Rene should be taking the most shots for the UConn team? Maybe in this game she had to because of defense but 19 shot attempts is the most on her team. She did make 8 of those and went 3 for 9 from the 3 I just don't think I would want that on my team unless everybody else is struggling.


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I didn't see the game since I do not have CSTV, but am I the only person who doesn't think Rene should be taking the most shots for the UConn team? Maybe in this game she had to because of defense but 19 shot attempts is the most on her team. She did make 8 of those and went 3 for 9 from the 3 I just don't think I would want that on my team unless everybody else is struggling.


I don't think you really realize how great Renee Montgomery is. Maya was in foul trouble for the first half and our mideget guards couldn't break the press to get the ball into Tina. Renee, with her ability to make big shots in big games is exactly the type of player I want taking the most shots for my team. You really need to understand the dynamic of a game between UCONN/Rutgers to fullty appreciate how these games play out.


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PostPosted: 02/06/08 9:02 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Come on, ladies, let's keep the trend going. Giants started it, you gotta finish it.


After last nights game, and with Prince they could well bring it all home. I knew Prince was going to be making a name for herself; lets hope she keeps improving like this every year. She would look good in green (o:

Way to go Rutgers!



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bballfan2005 wrote:
timber wrote:
Exclamation She's capable of it though. She's already twice the defender she ever was...but the points? She won't even feel that 33 tomorrow.

If Stringer's going to stick with the Pick-A-Chuck offense, she'd be far better off picking Piph than anyone else on the roster.

The idea that Piph could only dominate against cupcakes came from the misinformed who only knew what they read and didn't bother to see for themselves.

Also, regarding her drives, you think she's out of control until you have to guard her....or until you compare her to Matee.

She is deceptively strong and under control when she goes to the rack, which is why 9 times out of 10, she'll finish or get the foul. The scouting report on her at Bergtraum used to be to just stand there and wait for her to run you over....which very few 5'4 15 year olds in the PSAL were willing to do anyway.

By the summer before her senior year, the scouting report had to be thrown out. She had developed a stop and fake move, a stop and pop move, a stop and spin and a pull-up runner....all for her drives into the lane and enhanced her upper body control to the point where she basically elevates into your chest to force contact and take away your angle to block the shot.

Now that she's replaced fat with muscle and lost half a person, she's even better at taking the hit and finishing. With her range, if that jumper is falling, she's near impossible to check. UConn should have made her a passer. Not because she can't pass...I've seen her turn of Kobe and turn on Kidd...but because Rutgers can't shoot.

Piph took it back to Brooklyn tonight though. Stringer's got her humble and playing defense...the only two things she was missing.


I was sold on Piph Prince after the Maryland game (where she had like 10 assists and 20 some-odd points), so the fact that she dropped 33 and 6 doesn't surprise me so much as who she dropped it on. UConn is a very good defensive team, and they pride themselves on being able to take away the opposing team's best player. After watching some of the highlights of the game, I'm even more impressed with Prince and her ability to carry Rutgers. She made it look easy. I can only imagine what she'd be like if she was three inches taller. Shocked Still, she's damn good for 5-9.

I guess what impresses me the most re Prince is her ability to turn the corner and get to the rim almost every time she wants. She's not the smallest girl in the world and she doesn't have the longest limbs, but her ability to get head-and-shoulders past just about any defender she faces is impressive--and she can do it without the push off. It'll be interesting to see how Prince fares against the Hornbuckle/Auguste duo on Monday. She could be putting herself into the Kodak AA race with another standout performance.

I'd have to say that, for the moment, 33 and 6 is the best individual performance of the SEASON. Oh, and I'd be remorse if I didn't say that 73-71 was the best performance of the season thus far--especially coming off the so-so two-game road trip.


My goodness, I think I may faint. Two posts of actual concise, informed, basketball analysis. Anyway, IMO, Piph will be the far and away best 2-guard in the country by the time she graduates. I never had any doubts that she could play at this level. I questioned her stamina, (mental and physical) and conditioning. The kid looked like a damn middle linebacker in that hideous gold and red 2 years ago but since she was scoring at will, no one wanted to talk about it. I think it's pretty apparent now why Rutgers was the perfect place for her to be. A lot of coaches may have been blinded by her ability and let her remain an arrogant chubster who only played defense every now and then. First Kia, now Piph, even Brit looks like she was told that that clothes rack makes a good treadmill. RU's working miracles as far as I'm concerned. Dr. Ian should give their staff a call about that 50 million pound challenge.

C Viv should have been taking notes last night. Get the ball into Kia early and often and it opens things up for your unguardable guard. Stop running the offense through Matee. I love Matee like a play cousin, but Piph is what you get when you match a head with all that heart Matee has.
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ucbart wrote:
umbeta1455 wrote:
I didn't see the game since I do not have CSTV, but am I the only person who doesn't think Rene should be taking the most shots for the UConn team? Maybe in this game she had to because of defense but 19 shot attempts is the most on her team. She did make 8 of those and went 3 for 9 from the 3 I just don't think I would want that on my team unless everybody else is struggling.


I don't think you really realize how great Renee Montgomery is. Maya was in foul trouble for the first half and our mideget guards couldn't break the press to get the ball into Tina. Renee, with her ability to make big shots in big games is exactly the type of player I want taking the most shots for my team. You really need to understand the dynamic of a game between UCONN/Rutgers to fullty appreciate how these games play out.


Nope, I really wish I could have seen that game. For some reason my mind told me the game would be on ESPN (I need to stop assuming.) Than when I read on the Boneyard it was only on CSTV I was mad.

This is why I was asking about Renee because I didn't see the game at all and it sounds better than the game Duke and UNC had for rivalry week.


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Nothing is perfect, baby. Doesn't matter what sport you're playing. Nothing is perfect.

When it comes to college sports, I firmly believe there is nothing like a crowd at the RAC. You combine loud, passionate fans with an arena that's designed to collect noise from all sides and drop it down onto the court, then stir in an exciting game in one of the sport's biggest rivalries, and it's enough to make you want to sit back and soak it in… except, of course, if you're a real fan, you're probably up on your feet shouting and hollering with the rest of them, so you're not exactly concerned with the way the arena sounds inasmuch as you're concerned about helping the arena sound that way. My throat's still slightly sore.

For a while, though, I was sure this was going to be another heartbreak, thanks in no small part to the unreal shooting of Renee Montgomery. Y'know, between the state's products and its university, I could get a serious dislike on for West Virginia. Then again, Montgomery's panic fouls and fumble on the pass pretty much sealed the win for Rutgers. Somehow, I get the feeling she just took a bit of a slide down the draft board. And then there was Tina Charles, who had Kia Vaughn for dinner. Damn, but she can move for a big girl. I'm not fond of the elbows out on her screens, though. She and Hunter both had a knack for being in places that they needed to be and/or ensuring that even if Vaughn happened to be in a place where a rebound might go, that they got it from her. Moore got hot late, and I'm not sure how much of that to credit to any clutchness she might have and how much to credit to the defense forgetting that she existed, because she either didn't or couldn't get her shots in the first three quarters. Dixon annoys me, and I don't know why. You'd think a Debbie Black fan would like the undersized players, but Dixon doesn't seem to have yet realized that she *is* smaller than most of her colleagues in the conference, or that she's not going to get any advantages from that lack of size. She's a little overdramatic, to say the least. Off the bench… now I can see why UConn fans are ticked at Geno for not playing Houston, because she's got good size and good aggressiveness, and early in the game, when they were getting nothing out of Moore, she stepped up and picked up the slack. I don't know if going away from her was one of the keys to Rutgers coming back in the second half, but it's not a move I would have made. I like Swanier running the team better than whoever they're using as point guard (Dixon?); I think she's got a better handle on her teammates' strengths and weaknesses. Was not impressed with McLaren; I realize she's a freshman, but she brought nothing to the court except size. Has UConn always been playing this aggressive, in your face defense? Seemed surprising that Geno was going to go after Rutgers with, essentially, Rutgers basketball.

On the ride home, we concluded that sometime in the second half, Epiphanny Prince decided, "You know what? Hell if I'm losing to those CTK girls." She took over so dominantly- if I read the box right, 27 of her 33 points were in the second half; to put that in perspective, 27 of RU's 49 points in the second half were hers. It was crazy. She was everywhere. It was beautiful. I wasn't thrilled with Ajavon's performance on offense, but she was after every loose ball, and watching her make those plays was beautiful. Carson didn't look right at all. Vaughn may have been quite impressive on offense, but on defense and on the boards, she was utter shit. I'm sure some of that can be credited to the UConn posts, but she looked like she was doing her best Tammy Sutton-Brown impression for most of the night. There were points I turned to the boy and said, "I never thought I'd be grateful for Tiina Sten; at least she has an excuse." Junaid seemed to be on a strict minute count, because I would have liked to see more of her, especially when they were doing the press; the way Vaughn was playing defense, she wasn't ready for when UConn did manage to break the press, and the Huskies got buckets that were all too easy. Stringer seemed to be going with her starters even more than one would expect for a team with only three bench players; why Zurich was exiled for so much of the game I will never understand, and why the sub so often seemed to be a switch between the two bench players was a source of agita, angst, frustration, and the occasional primal scream from section 203. Have I mentioned lately that I love both McCurdy and Zurich on the inbounds defense? Because I do. Myia more than Heather, but both of them know how to make an inbounder's life hell.

I had the horrible feeling I recognized at least one of those ponytailed refs, but they stayed out of the game, more or less. For the first time in I can't remember when, RU had more free throws than an opponent… but this is the kind of thing that happens when you drive the lane and go for the shot. Wild concept, I know. Ajavon got whammed a couple of times, no call- I mind me of one play where she was pretty much checked into the boards with no call either way. Think my favorite comment on the refs was after a bad out of bounds call, when one of the guys above me said, "I thought I knew all the blonde jokes, but I found a new one: this ref." This was in the first half, so Prince had yet to force an absolutely ridiculous number of fouls against UConn.

It was nice to see representatives from almost all of the women's teams at halftime, though I wonder why the tennis team couldn't send a representative, even if they weren't there. Ah, well. Personally, I'm inclined to believe that, given the number of black warmup jackets and accents on uniforms, RU needs to give up this red and white thing and stick to the red and black; it'll make wardrobe choices so much easier for me.

Nice suit, Coach Stringer. Nice suit, Coach Auriemma. Black never goes out of style.

I wouldn't have missed this for the world. I really wouldn't. I've never been prouder of my team than I was last night. But don't think this means they can let down their guard. It doesn't get any easier after this. Does it ever? Wink



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Queenie wrote:
Somehow, I get the feeling she just took a bit of a slide down the draft board.


Whether a good thing or a bad thing, Renee still has next season to help determine her draft position in the 2009 draft.

Queenie wrote:
Has UConn always been playing this aggressive, in your face defense? Seemed surprising that Geno was going to go after Rutgers with, essentially, Rutgers basketball.


This season, yes. Especially when UConn was at full strength. They can't keep it up like they used to, though, especially with Greene out of the lineup. Mel Thomas was missed last night as UConn could've certainly used another ball handler.

Congrats to Rutgers and it's fans on a great win for them!!! The RAC was certainly noisy, and it rattled the UConn players. Lorin/Ketia/Renee may be fast, but they are also short.

I look forward to the rematch in a couple of weeks...should be a good one!


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Was not impressed with McLaren; I realize she's a freshman, but she brought nothing to the court except size.


She's actually a sophomore, but I have to agree Queenie. She needs to lose weight if she really wants to compete, especially in the Big East. Sometimes she just looks flat out slow out there.

As for your Charde topics, I tend to agree as well. I know Charde isn't the Ms. California Leading Scorer they hoped she'd be, but they could've used her at stretches throughout the game. I truly wonder if she'll be better without Geno.



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I truly wonder if she'll be better without Geno.


Nobody ever seems to agree with me but I say that all the time. I think she will be better off without him. I couldn't be a bigger Geno fan but I truly believe that with another coach she will be much better off.



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