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BBallFanCT729
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| ...or a smart pick for Phoenix at the end of the first round (depending on who else is available).
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| Posted: 01/26/08 10:02 pm ::: |
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| Damn, wanted MD to win this, but they fouled way too much, and NC got away with a few. Oh well it was a great game to watch.
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| Posted: 01/26/08 10:56 pm ::: |
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bballfan05 is making sense.
Maryland ran out of posts, and out of steam. I haven't looked at the rebounding margins for the OTs but I'm sure they favored UNC. And I'm not sure the refs "favored" UNC at the end: the Tar Heels had a massive height advantage, which let them shut down Maryland's posts without fouling, and without appearing to foul.
Do we fault Maryland's acting coach for not using his bench? or for not using his timeouts? or for having Coleman, not Tolliver, bring up the ball at the end of regulation? I think I do. But I haven't seen this year's Terps enough to feel secure in blaming the loss on the coach.
I don't know where Larkins will go in the first round, but I think she's a first-rounder, and I agree that Pringle's a second-round bargain (just like Camille Little last year).
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spikeybedhead
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| Posted: 01/27/08 1:15 pm ::: |
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I think more GMs will be willing to take a chance on Pringle and Harper because of their height and career trajectory (neither is near her ceiling). |
In the NBA and NFL All American lists and Heisman winners are thrown out the door. Scouts aren't exactly drooling over Tyler Hansborough and Kevin Love the way ESPN is.
I don't think WNBA scouts are looking that far ahead yet--Which will be the reason why Kia Vaughn will be drafted behind at least one Paris twin, why Langhorne might be drafted over Pringle...etc.
I do think Pringle/Harper have high ceilings, but I think scouts are often swayed by All-American lists/ESPN hype/BCS conference hype--and Larkins/Humphrey will be on the receiving end of those.
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bballfan2005
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| Posted: 01/27/08 2:50 pm ::: |
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| spikeybedhead wrote: |
In the NBA and NFL All American lists and Heisman winners are thrown out the door. Scouts aren't exactly drooling over Tyler Hansborough and Kevin Love the way ESPN is.
I don't think WNBA scouts are looking that far ahead yet--Which will be the reason why Kia Vaughn will be drafted behind at least one Paris twin, why Langhorne might be drafted over Pringle...etc.
I do think Pringle/Harper have high ceilings, but I think scouts are often swayed by All-American lists/ESPN hype/BCS conference hype--and Larkins/Humphrey will be on the receiving end of those. |
You bring up some good points. In major sports leagues (NBA, NFL, MLB), the emphasis is placed more on pro potential (body type, athleticism, room for growth in game) than on college credentials--hence the reason why Hansblo doesn't mind staying in school for four years. However, I don't think the WNBA is too far from making a similar change in philosophy, especially when it comes to post players. Brooke Smith's slip down the draft boards (despite her inflated college reputation) serves as proof that we could be in for a change. One could even argue that Latta's drop down the boards is another example of the scouts not buying completely into the college-generated hype.
Make no mistake about it. The WNBA is still a reputation-based league when it comes to scouting (most of the chumps they tout will have a minimal impact in professional hoops). Their scouting efforts overall are piss poor at best (I've seen them "in action" at college games--they're glorified spectators). However, I do think that Harper and Pringle will "defy logic" and get drafted higher than the likes of Larkins and Humphrey.
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| Posted: 01/27/08 4:55 pm ::: |
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| Where does Larkins project to go in the draft? |
5th big taken (behind Parker, Fowles, Pringle, and Harper). That probably puts her around 8th or so. She's a great player and all, but she's still fat and only 6-1. |
After watching Larkins for four years, I'm convinced she is taller than 6'1". I think she is about 6'3"
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| Posted: 01/27/08 5:33 pm ::: |
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| ucbart wrote: |
| bballfan2005 wrote: |
| LibWNBAFan wrote: |
| Where does Larkins project to go in the draft? |
5th big taken (behind Parker, Fowles, Pringle, and Harper). That probably puts her around 8th or so. She's a great player and all, but she's still fat and only 6-1. |
After watching Larkins for four years, I'm convinced she is taller than 6'1". I think she is about 6'3" |
There's so much weird height inflation e.g. Courtney Paris/Tasha Humphrey.
If Larkins were 6'3", she'd be Cheryl Ford-esque and be the clear-cut #3 pick.
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