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| Posted: 05/02/07 2:28 pm ::: |
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| Definately deserves it. Good for her. The Pac-10 needs good coaches. |
Hmmmmm ...
I know she has 1 Pac-10 tournament title. Has she ever won the conference regular season? She hasn't made a Final Four, and this was the first Elite Eight.
Seems like a lot of money for a coach who isn't in the elite in terms of on-court accomplishments.
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| Posted: 05/02/07 3:08 pm ::: |
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| Definately deserves it. Good for her. The Pac-10 needs good coaches. |
Hmmmmm ...
I know she has 1 Pac-10 tournament title. Has she ever won the conference regular season? She hasn't made a Final Four, and this was the first Elite Eight.
Seems like a lot of money for a coach who isn't in the elite in terms of on-court accomplishments. |
I guess they see her potential...and the fact that she was contacted about many of the job openings after their tournament run, so they want to kepp her. Good thing too because the womens program is looking good, I should know having suffered through many bad seasons.
And next season...watch out. With Bri January, Danielle Orsillo and Sybil Dosty they should be a really tough team!
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| Posted: 05/02/07 3:22 pm ::: |
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| Definately deserves it. Good for her. The Pac-10 needs good coaches. |
Hmmmmm ...
I know she has 1 Pac-10 tournament title. Has she ever won the conference regular season? She hasn't made a Final Four, and this was the first Elite Eight.
Seems like a lot of money for a coach who isn't in the elite in terms of on-court accomplishments. |
I guess they see her potential...and the fact that she was contacted about many of the job openings after their tournament run, so they want to kepp her. Good thing too because the womens program is looking good, I should know having suffered through many bad seasons.
And next season...watch out. With Bri January, Danielle Orsillo and Sybil Dosty they should be a really tough team! |
This is the right year to capitalize with all of the openings. Can you even imagine how many different coaches received at least one call from somebody in regards to another job? We've even seen raises/extentions and still had a coach leave.
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| Posted: 05/02/07 6:27 pm ::: |
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| And next season...watch out. With Bri January, Danielle Orsillo and Sybil Dosty they should be a really tough team! |
Don't forget Dymond Simon!
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| Look for Cal to improve as well....Boyle didn't turn Duke down to play in a mediocre league....with a mediocre team. The Bears will be on the move!!!
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| I know this will cause some debate. But I think Charli is a smarter Rene Portland or a PC Portland. Look at her teams. I doubt she would ever allow a lesbian on the team. |
I'm kind of curious how you or she would know a lesbian just by looking.
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| Posted: 05/03/07 11:53 pm ::: |
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| I know this will cause some debate. But I think Charli is a smarter Rene Portland or a PC Portland. Look at her teams. I doubt she would ever allow a lesbian on the team. |
I'm kind of curious how you or she would know a lesbian just by looking. |
Maybe it's the shoes the players wear after the game!!! You know what they say about lesbian shoes!!!   |
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I'm not so sure about Charli. How long are you going to allow her to knock on the door before you start question if she can break down the door?
I've followed ASU closely. They had a very good looking team, Lauren Stagg, Kylan Loney, (Lauren and Kylan are two of the nicest people ever.) Betsey Boardman, Jen Albert etc. But even with all that talent they didn't win the Pac-10. The first year of the Pac-10 tourney they won but it's been Stanford's trophy ever since. BTW maybe it's time to move it from San Jose (basically Stanford's home court) and back to Oregon.
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I think you're being WAAAAYYY too pessimistic here. Giver her a chance and I think she will succeed. It's not like Stanford is that easy to topple. She's had to build her program. Now, if we come back a few years from now and we're still having this discussion, then I'll agree with you.
Moving the NCAA tourney away from San Jose would be great. Now, I'm wondering if they have some sort of long-term agreement for it. If they had it in Los Angeles instead of Oregon, that would be even better. |
How long has CTT been at ASU? How long do you give her to build her program??? |
How long do you give her to build her program??? What planet have you been in ??? You followed ASU closely and you ask a stupid question like that?? Charli has build her program from scratch, the cupboard wasn't empty when she got here, it was missing entirely!
Maybe she hasn't won a Pac 10 or NCAA championship lately but ASU has arrived and will be one of the elite teams in the country, just check out the progression of her teams the last 4 yrs, next season's team will be much better than the one that went 31-5 16-2 this past year!!!
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| I know this will cause some debate. But I think Charli is a smarter Rene Portland or a PC Portland. Look at her teams. I doubt she would ever allow a lesbian on the team. |
Guess again wise man...she has them now  and she's had them in the past.
Charli may be Christian, but she is also a Democrat  ....she pretty much accepts all people in the same nice girl fashion that has made her a favorite of players, fans, and the University.
Now about her Pac 10 championships, who the hell cares, she didn't win it this year yet made it to the elite 8 in the tournment that counts...Tennesse didn't win their conference championship, so I guess Pat ain't worth the money either |
Preach it, sister! I'm so sick of people bad-mouthing CTT, saying ASU's nothing because we haven't won the PAC10 yet. But I sure as hell didn't see Stanford in the Elite 8, thank you very much.
Charli's worth every damn penny, IMO. ASU has kept on a steady rise, and I expect great things from them in the future. Each year gets a little better, and I think that's the kind of coach you want - constantly improving. As the team wins more, and she's able to attract even higher quality recruits, you'll see what she can do and E8 appearances will become common. And it's not a pipe-dream to think about a championship someday soon, either.
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| Posted: 05/05/07 12:42 pm ::: |
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I'm not so sure about Charli. How long are you going to allow her to knock on the door before you start question if she can break down the door?
I've followed ASU closely. They had a very good looking team, Lauren Stagg, Kylan Loney, (Lauren and Kylan are two of the nicest people ever.) Betsey Boardman, Jen Albert etc. But even with all that talent they didn't win the Pac-10. The first year of the Pac-10 tourney they won but it's been Stanford's trophy ever since. BTW maybe it's time to move it from San Jose (basically Stanford's home court) and back to Oregon.
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I think you're being WAAAAYYY too pessimistic here. Giver her a chance and I think she will succeed. It's not like Stanford is that easy to topple. She's had to build her program. Now, if we come back a few years from now and we're still having this discussion, then I'll agree with you.
Moving the NCAA tourney away from San Jose would be great. Now, I'm wondering if they have some sort of long-term agreement for it. If they had it in Los Angeles instead of Oregon, that would be even better. |
How long has CTT been at ASU? How long do you give her to build her program??? |
How long do you give her to build her program??? What planet have you been in ??? You followed ASU closely and you ask a stupid question like that?? Charli has build her program from scratch, the cupboard wasn't empty when she got here, it was missing entirely!
Maybe she hasn't won a Pac 10 or NCAA championship lately but ASU has arrived and will be one of the elite teams in the country, just check out the progression of her teams the last 4 yrs, next season's team will be much better than the one that went 31-5 16-2 this past year!!! |
That's the point you space cadet. She needs to win the Pac-10 regular season and/or tourney. She can't overcome Stanford. Until that happens ASU is just a pretender.
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I'm not so sure about Charli. How long are you going to allow her to knock on the door before you start question if she can break down the door?
I've followed ASU closely. They had a very good looking team, Lauren Stagg, Kylan Loney, (Lauren and Kylan are two of the nicest people ever.) Betsey Boardman, Jen Albert etc. But even with all that talent they didn't win the Pac-10. The first year of the Pac-10 tourney they won but it's been Stanford's trophy ever since. BTW maybe it's time to move it from San Jose (basically Stanford's home court) and back to Oregon.
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I think you're being WAAAAYYY too pessimistic here. Giver her a chance and I think she will succeed. It's not like Stanford is that easy to topple. She's had to build her program. Now, if we come back a few years from now and we're still having this discussion, then I'll agree with you.
Moving the NCAA tourney away from San Jose would be great. Now, I'm wondering if they have some sort of long-term agreement for it. If they had it in Los Angeles instead of Oregon, that would be even better. |
How long has CTT been at ASU? How long do you give her to build her program??? |
How long do you give her to build her program??? What planet have you been in ??? You followed ASU closely and you ask a stupid question like that?? Charli has build her program from scratch, the cupboard wasn't empty when she got here, it was missing entirely!
Maybe she hasn't won a Pac 10 or NCAA championship lately but ASU has arrived and will be one of the elite teams in the country, just check out the progression of her teams the last 4 yrs, next season's team will be much better than the one that went 31-5 16-2 this past year!!! |
That's the point you space cadet. She needs to win the Pac-10 regular season and/or tourney. She can't overcome Stanford. Until that happens ASU is just a pretender. |
Well, stay tune you stupid idiot! Stanford reign in the Pac 10 will be coming to a end this season! Pretender, the only pretender here is you!!!
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| Posted: 05/05/07 3:04 pm ::: |
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That's the point you space cadet. She needs to win the Pac-10 regular season and/or tourney. She can't overcome Stanford. Until that happens ASU is just a pretender. |
But why is winning the PAC 10 so important?? Serious question, why is it so important?
Duke didn't win the ACC, Tennessee didn't win the SEC. Conference tournaments may bring pride to a school, but they don't count for much if you are knocked out in the second round of the big dance. Just ask Candace Wiggins if she'd trade her Pac 10 championship for a longer run in the tournament
Stanford seems more of a "pretender". ASU just exceeds expectations and improves every year and Stanford keeps losing when people expect them to compete at the big dance |
The conference regular season and tourney titles are important according to Charli. She wants to win them badly. That's the drill. Do your best to win the conference round robin, win the conference tourney, and do well in the NCAAs. They may not all matter equally, but they matter.
Short memory you have. In 06 ASU lost early to Utah while Stanford upset Oklahoma to reach the Elite Eight and came within a tough call of the Final Four. This is ASU's first Elite Eight. Unless and until ASU hits three Elite Eights in a row, as Stanford has until 07, or wins a conference championship, maybe refrain from calling the team that has done those things a "pretender". Kind of silly to call a team that beats you three times in a season a pretender. Also a useless discussion because Stanford doing well does not negate ASU doing well and vice versa.
Why is it an either or proposition? Why put down Stanford to show ASU is a good team? There is room for more than one good team from the Pac-10. No need to tear down one team to build up the other. Other fans are perfectly happy to have several good teams in their conferences. Too many Pac-10 fans seem to feel the only way to argue that they are good is by making the other conference teams (mainly Stanford) look bad. If Stanford, ASU, Cal, etc are all very good, we all win. The ideal is several teams with the ability to win the conference and do well in the NCAAs.
Enjoy the good seasons for what they are. You never know what bad luck can come to derail things. I know the "my team is better, yours sucks" game is a mainstay on message boards, but the Pac-10 gets enough grief from the WBB world at large that maybe we Pac-10 fans could stick together just a little?
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That's the point you space cadet. She needs to win the Pac-10 regular season and/or tourney. She can't overcome Stanford. Until that happens ASU is just a pretender. |
But why is winning the PAC 10 so important?? Serious question, why is it so important?
Duke didn't win the ACC, Tennessee didn't win the SEC. Conference tournaments may bring pride to a school, but they don't count for much if you are knocked out in the second round of the big dance. Just ask Candace Wiggins if she'd trade her Pac 10 championship for a longer run in the tournament
Stanford seems more of a "pretender". ASU just exceeds expectations and improves every year and Stanford keeps losing when people expect them to compete at the big dance |
The conference regular season and tourney titles are important according to Charli. She wants to win them badly. That's the drill. Do your best to win the conference round robin, win the conference tourney, and do well in the NCAAs. They may not all matter equally, but they matter.
Short memory you have. In 06 ASU lost early to Utah while Stanford upset Oklahoma to reach the Elite Eight and came within a tough call of the Final Four. This is ASU's first Elite Eight. Unless and until ASU hits three Elite Eights in a row, as Stanford has until 07, or wins a conference championship, maybe refrain from calling the team that has done those things a "pretender". Kind of silly to call a team that beats you three times in a season a pretender. Also a useless discussion because Stanford doing well does not negate ASU doing well and vice versa.
Why is it an either or proposition? Why put down Stanford to show ASU is a good team? There is room for more than one good team from the Pac-10. No need to tear down one team to build up the other. Other fans are perfectly happy to have several good teams in their conferences. Too many Pac-10 fans seem to feel the only way to argue that they are good is by making the other conference teams (mainly Stanford) look bad. If Stanford, ASU, Cal, etc are all very good, we all win. The ideal is several teams with the ability to win the conference and do well in the NCAAs.
Enjoy the good seasons for what they are. You never know what bad luck can come to derail things. I know the "my team is better, yours sucks" game is a mainstay on message boards, but the Pac-10 gets enough grief from the WBB world at large that maybe we Pac-10 fans could stick together just a little? |
oh somebody missed the sarcasm plane....I was using the posters own words agains him (see quote marks). I like Stanford, I like Cal, I like the Pac 10. But as an ASU season ticket holder I really could give a rats arse about winning the pac 10 tournament title, Charli may care, that's her job, but as a fan I want NCAA wins first and foremost.
Charlis been at it for 11 seasons now at ASU, when she reaches Taras tenure I'm sure she will have many elite eights, final fours and maybe even that hard to come by Championship! Stay tuned
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| I know this will cause some debate. But I think Charli is a smarter Rene Portland or a PC Portland. Look at her teams. I doubt she would ever allow a lesbian on the team. |
Guess again wise man...she has them now and she's had them in the past.
Charli may be Christian, but she is also a Democrat ....she pretty much accepts all people in the same nice girl fashion that has made her a favorite of players, fans, and the University.
Now about her Pac 10 championships, who the hell cares, she didn't win it this year yet made it to the elite 8 in the tournment that counts...Tennesse didn't win their conference championship, so I guess Pat ain't worth the money either |
Preach it, sister! I'm so sick of people bad-mouthing CTT, saying ASU's nothing because we haven't won the PAC10 yet. But I sure as hell didn't see Stanford in the Elite 8, thank you very much.
Charli's worth every damn penny, IMO. ASU has kept on a steady rise, and I expect great things from them in the future. Each year gets a little better, and I think that's the kind of coach you want - constantly improving. As the team wins more, and she's able to attract even higher quality recruits, you'll see what she can do and E8 appearances will become common. And it's not a pipe-dream to think about a championship someday soon, either. |
Wow, two great posts! Lol, there's nothing left to say, except I agree!
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