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You seem to be doing a great at that also; you should join the media. I think you'd be a great asset in furthering that cause.
why do you think that? because while i find imus' remarks assinine, i don't believe he should be fired? because i believe the RU women are not "scarred for life" and that they are smart and strong enough young adults to handle the remarks made by a stranger? because i refuse to accept ajavon as a victim? because i believe cvs will milk this beyond the necessary for her own good? because i believe al and jesse are a couple of clowns?
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I tell you what, if, IF you are that interested to know, go back and read my comments. Then if you wanna come back and discuss without all of the BS and hot air (that means intelligently) let me know. Cause all of that BS you mentioned above you have once to see me connected with any such sentiments. |
get back to me when you're ready to address my question. |
Exactly as I thought - you don't have a question. What you have are a lot of assumptions that you are making because I don't agree with the racist overtones in your post.
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cthskzfn
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| Posted: 04/12/07 10:00 am ::: |
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Exactly as I thought - you don't have a question.
my question, obviously, is contained within the quote you posted.
you can either answer it, or not. either way is fine.
your "racist overtones" line is a cheap, throw-away one, but par for the (dis)course, i guess.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 10:09 am ::: |
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| I know we're "not supposed to talk like this in mixed company", but Jason Whitlock is nothing more than a self hating negro with a platform trying to "educate" whites about "those other" blacks. |
and Scoop Jackson is a fake ghetto posturing clown.
Which is worse?
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MsTena-T
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| Posted: 04/12/07 10:11 am ::: |
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Exactly as I thought - you don't have a question.
my question, obviously, is contained within the quote you posted.
you can either answer it, or not. either way is fine.
your "racist overtones" line is a cheap, throw-away one, but par for the (dis)course, i guess. |
Riiiiiight, I don't see not one question in the bunch that actually perains to me or anything I've said. Therefore the logical conclusion is that you don't have a question for me.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 10:20 am ::: |
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| I know we're "not supposed to talk like this in mixed company", but Jason Whitlock is nothing more than a self hating negro with a platform trying to "educate" whites about "those other" blacks. |
and Scoop Jackson is a fake ghetto posturing clown.
Which is worse? |
They're all equal which is exactly my point. Jason was a fake ghetto posturing clown too until he realized no one gave a damn. Then all of a sudden he became Malcolm, Martin and Medgar over night.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 5:56 pm ::: |
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Exactly as I thought - you don't have a question.
my question, obviously, is contained within the quote you posted.
you can either answer it, or not. either way is fine.
your "racist overtones" line is a cheap, throw-away one, but par for the (dis)course, i guess. |
Riiiiiight, I don't see not one question in the bunch that actually perains to me or anything I've said. Therefore the logical conclusion is that you don't have a question for me. |
i'm not familiar w/ you- is bullshit your usual MO?
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| Posted: 04/13/07 7:22 am ::: |
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| He was on the Today show and they gave him maybe 2-3 minutes. He was CNN last night with Anderson Cooper and they had a terriific conversation.
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| Posted: 04/13/07 10:47 am ::: |
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| plus, he violated the cardinal rule: what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
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| Posted: 04/13/07 2:15 pm ::: |
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We had a class discussion about this article today. Hearing anyone say anything derogatory about a persons race, gender, or sexual preference makes me sick. It's sad that our nation has not advanced as some may have hoped.
While some don't like Mr. Whitlock, he does bring up some interesting points.
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| It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud. |
I have never been a fan of Dave Chappelle or his show. It seems like everytime I see him on TV, he is making racially discriminatory remarks. Yet people laugh. Is that really the message we should be send? Again, I don't care what race a person is, if they make a rude/derogatory remark they are officially lower than low, to me. You can't just say 'well, he's black, so he can say that.' Because keeping these horrible words around are just feeding to the core of intolerance. If we want to progress as a nation, we need to take 1 step forward, not one step forward and one step back. It's just unfortunate that people(rappers, comedians) make fun off of such remarks. It shows just how stagnant the progession to ending racism has gotten.
Just my opinion.
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| Posted: 04/13/07 2:46 pm ::: |
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We had a class discussion about this article today. Hearing anyone say anything derogatory about a persons race, gender, or sexual preference makes me sick. It's sad that our nation has not advanced as some may have hoped.
While some don't like Mr. Whitlock, he does bring up some interesting points.
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| It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud. |
I have never been a fan of Dave Chappelle or his show. It seems like everytime I see him on TV, he is making racially discriminatory remarks. Yet people laugh. Is that really the message we should be send? Again, I don't care what race a person is, if they make a rude/derogatory remark they are officially lower than low, to me. You can't just say 'well, he's black, so he can say that.' Because keeping these horrible words around are just feeding to the core of intolerance. If we want to progress as a nation, we need to take 1 step forward, not one step forward and one step back. It's just unfortunate that people(rappers, comedians) make fun off of such remarks. It shows just how stagnant the progession to ending racism has gotten.
Just my opinion. |
Also Mr. Whitlock conveniently forgot to mention that Chappelle in fact turned down millions to continue with his show because he didn't like the direction it was going in terms of racial satire.
Dave Chappelle's main medium when creating comedic skits was satire. There seems to be a huge gulf in communication between the races. I mean him doing satire as a black man on "black" issues using "black" vernacular isn't going translate to black people in the same way a person of another race doing the same thing would.
I don't understand why this is a hard concept to grasp. I'm not a lesbian but I have heard lesbians refer to themselves in a joking manner as "dykes". I'm not stupid enough to believe that I could join in this joking utter a word like that, as a straight woman and have it be received in the same manner as if I were a lesbian myself. Not that I want to use that term at all, but it would seem that I am "off limits" in a way from using it.
As Whoopi asked the other day, why do you (Imus) even want to say something like "nappy-headed ho" as a punchline with regards to some girls playing basketball? Because some rappers have used it? Imus is way old enough to know the history of the white slave master and the slave winch to know that phrases like that aren't going to be received well, especially from the black community coming from an older white man. He's stupid, but not that stupid. He thought no one would care, and I'm willing to bet if he had made the same remarks about a WNBA team, no one probably would care. I think his biggest mistake was saying this about kids. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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| Posted: 04/13/07 2:58 pm ::: |
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My post was about the movement to end racism, not particularly this incident. No one, and I mean NO ONE has the right to say anything like that, even if someone else says it. Two wrongs, don't make a right. However, one wrong doesn't make a right either.
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| Posted: 04/13/07 3:20 pm ::: |
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luvDhoops-
My post was about the movement to end racism, not particularly this incident. No one, and I mean NO ONE has the right to say anything like that, even if someone else says it. Two wrongs, don't make a right. However, one wrong doesn't make a right either. |
I understand, however myself and I'm sure many young black people wouldn't look at Chappelle's racial satire as a "wrong". Most of his skits weren't done for the mere sake of getting a laugh. They were social commentary denouncing whatever it was he was making fun of, just like an um... satire. Just like the skit of the blind black man who believed he was actually white, was a racist, kept using the "n" word and was an active member (in his mind) of the KKK. It was hilarious stuff, making fun of the klan and similar organizations and I felt likewise poked fun at many self-loathing blacks. I don't consider that a "wrong" at all. The truth is though, if Steve Martin were to do a similar thing (though I don't know how he physically could unless he wore black face and that's opening a whole different issue) I don't think that it would easily translate to me and other black people as satire or social commentary. Because of the painful history between the two races, Steve would just look like a white man making fun of "us".
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| Posted: 04/13/07 3:39 pm ::: |
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| As Whoopi asked the other day, why do you (Imus) even want to say something like "nappy-headed ho" as a punchline with regards to some girls playing basketball? Because some rappers have used it? |
What's the name of her production company again?
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| Posted: 04/13/07 3:49 pm ::: |
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| As Whoopi asked the other day, why do you (Imus) even want to say something like "nappy-headed ho" as a punchline with regards to some girls playing basketball? Because some rappers have used it? |
What's the name of her production company again? |
One Ho Productions
'Course, she's not calling anyone's child that, she's referring to herself as a ho. I guess she's comfortable with that.
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