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[LTF1]

Rutger's girls suffered an insult, but NOTHING compared to the injustice forced upon Duke's Lacrosse team, especially the three boys who were obviously falsely accused. They were victims of gross racial, sexist, and class stereotypes.

Congrats to the boys and their families. I think as an act of good faith, Al Sharpton should offer to pay their legal fees.

And the way Duke doesn't stand by it's coaches and athletes, why would anyone want to coach there?

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"I'd work very hard but I'm lazy,
I can't take the pressure & it's starting to show
In my heart, you know how it pains me,
A life of leisure is no life you know"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPeJixp-zp4&feature=related

[cthskzfn]

[Queenie]

...or fewer of us give a crap about lacrosse than we do about women's basketball.

Or, possibly (and I don't know, I haven't been into the Maelstrom for the last three hours) it's being talked about in the off-topic area, since it hasn't a damn thing to do with women's basketball.

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Ardent believer in the separation of church and stadium.

[luvDhoops]

[womens_hoops]

or possibly people are sick of LTF starting a new thread on the same issue that is already being discussed in 8 other threads, 7 of which he started.

[Slovydal]

[beknighted]

[PurdueBBall3]

[LTF1]

wh:"or possibly people are sick of LTF starting a new thread on the same issue that is already being discussed in 8 other threads, 7 of which he started."

I haven't counted, but I'll take your word for it. But in any case, you certainly don't have to read or respond to any of my posts. Just like you don't have to listen to Don Imus.

Queenie:"since it hasn't a damn thing to do with women's basketball."

One could argue that the Don Imus thing didn't have much to do with basketball either. He could have made the same remark about a volleyball team of the same racial make-up and we'd have the same result.

In any case, I disagree that there is no connection b/w Rutgers and Duke on these issues. The parallels are obvious. Race, gender, class, and sports. And those who are extremely angered by a few nasty words, seem strangely mum about false accusations that could have landed three innocent young men in jail and did cost their coach his job.

No wonder Gail decided to bail. No wonder the Cal coach ain't going to Duke. The message from the univ is, get falsely accused of something involving CRG (class, race and gender) and the univ won't stand by you. Indeed, it will throw you under the bus.

BeK:"It's just that it's not the same by any stretch of the imagination."

You're right, imo, what happened to the Lacrosse players was a lot, lot, lot, worse.


And I went over to the offtopic area and couldn't find anything. But, if the board demographic over there is the same as it is over here (eg WNBA and WCBB fans) well, I guess the silence is understandable.

slovydale:"LTF - your fifteen minutes are up."

What? This board akin Andy Warhol? LOL! Again, don't like it, don't read it, don't post on it.

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"I'd work very hard but I'm lazy,
I can't take the pressure & it's starting to show
In my heart, you know how it pains me,
A life of leisure is no life you know"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPeJixp-zp4&feature=related

[womens_hoops]

[Keegan]

[Slovydal]

[RedEqualsLuck]

[MsTena-T]

[aurabass]

LTF & CTh

Next time a WCBB team has a drunken bash with white male strippers and gets wrongly accused of rape we can get right on it.

Until then the only comparison is one incident involved a bunch of drunken priviledged rich white boys being stupid enough to pay a couple of nappy headed ho's to get naked vs a group of dedicated young women being labeled 'nappy headed hos' by a stupid rich white old man of priviledge.

Maybe the difference is too subtle for your limited power of distinction but a few of us have the ability to understand that one incident has no relevance to the other.

In one the legal system ran it's course to the proper outcome hopefully destroying the career of the idiot prosecutor who attempted to use it for political gain. In the other it may help enlighten the public to the damage done by hateful speech as a form of entertainment.

[LTF1]

Ms. Tena:"Why should Al Sharpton pay their legal fees?"

As I understand it, Sharpton has vocally supported the false accuser in this case and given his record concerning Tawana Brawley and all, I just thought it might be a nice gesture.

Ms. Tena:"What racial sterotypes did the Duke players face?"

Where have you been? From the beginning over a year ago: rich white jocks rape black "exotic dancer"

slovydale:"Having a stripper* at a party invites trouble."

Hmmm. Put another way, just as wrong, would be: "She asked for it". (Gee, I thought such thinking went out in the 50s (which were before I was born!)

Oh, and Keegan, there were like five posts on that thread, three dating some time back. Again, board demographic

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"I'd work very hard but I'm lazy,
I can't take the pressure & it's starting to show
In my heart, you know how it pains me,
A life of leisure is no life you know"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPeJixp-zp4&feature=related

[LTF1]

Aurabass:"In one the legal system ran it's course to the proper outcome hopefully destroying the career of the idiot prosecutor who attempted to use it for political gain."

Proper outcome after who knows how much money lost on attorney's fees and reputations damaged. And the idiot prosecutor had help from a hysterical press and the accuser in all of this. The NC AG went so far as to actually declare the boys "innocent" (almost unheard of). I think the good people of North Carolina should pay their legal fees. And Duke needs to get sued (for cowardice if nothing else)

The relevance of the two incidents is that the media and people of certain political persuasions have a double standard when it comes to race. In one case words hurt feelings and people went nuts. In the other case, words threatened to put innocent people in jail, cost a coach his job, players' their reputations, and people went nuts--after the innocent players.

I think the media reactions to the two events: black female bb players trashed by white guy---bad white guy (which he is)

white rich jocks (falsely) accused by black stripper---bad white guys (which they weren't)

I don't like double-standards

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"I'd work very hard but I'm lazy,
I can't take the pressure & it's starting to show
In my heart, you know how it pains me,
A life of leisure is no life you know"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPeJixp-zp4&feature=related

[MsTena-T]

[RedEqualsLuck]

Maybe Nancy Grace and the NYTimes should pay their legal fees...

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When Jefferson wrote: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal," he didn't include the word "except."

[Sass]

[LTF1]

Sass:"You're comparing apples to oranges, trying to draw parallels that don't exist."

It is your right to think so. Not everyone will agree with you, maybe most will. Not everyone will agree with me, maybe most won't. I'm fine with that.

Sass:"You can shut your "I know black people" a** up now"

I don't say that I know black people in any absolute sense (as many people here seem to think that they do). I know, compared to most white folks, a lot of black people. And I have found that those that I know have a variety of viewpoints, some of which that are and are not found on this board.

And in any case what are you suggesting? That ALL African Americans would think that Imus' insult of Rutgers' players is more serious than three men being falsely accused of rape, reputations damaged, and facing the threat of imprisonment for over a year? This was a national story that lasted for over a year. The Rutgers story will be gone next month, and then back for a day when Imus goes on satellite. That's it. Over.

So surely you are not suggesting that all black people think alike. Indeed, a fair minority believed OJ guilty at the time (I believe more do now). And not everyone everywhere of whatever race necc thinks like the majority of people on this board. But people sociologists have shown, tend to live in very small worlds where the associate with people who only think like them. This tends to lead to folks thinking that they and their group are right about everything and anyone who disagrees is wrong. Think liberals and conservatives. Limbaugh and Franken.

Furthermore, it still amazes me how folks who disagree with a viewpoint they don't like feel as if using vulgar language somehow strengthens the point they are trying to make. Or wait, this is junior high?

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"I'd work very hard but I'm lazy,
I can't take the pressure & it's starting to show
In my heart, you know how it pains me,
A life of leisure is no life you know"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPeJixp-zp4&feature=related

[Sass]

[MsTena-T]

[JACKOWACKO]

Lol @ calling out the Duke LAX players for "inviting trouble" for having a stripper over at a party.

I know of plenty of girls who have team parties w/male strippers.

The fact is, this woman claimed she was raped when she wasnt. Her own friend ratted her out. Tell you a little about how nice of a person she is.

And even though the LAX players live a life of privelledge, and probably get plenty of high-class hoochie LAX groupie ass, and even though they sound like spoiled brats during the interviews theyve given...

They were wronged bigtime here. And IMO, there should be more outrage from the media and public opinion.

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LAUREN JACKSON is the greatest of alltime.

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