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| Anyone hear Robert Johnson's ramblings on MSNBC last night? Oy. Sheila, how did you stand it?? |
I'm still waiting for the media to interview a relevant black person on this issue. Still waiting. |
Do you have a particular one in mind?
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| Posted: 04/12/07 11:04 am ::: |
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| Do you have a particular one in mind? |
obama has already spoken.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 11:08 am ::: |
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| Anyone hear Robert Johnson's ramblings on MSNBC last night? Oy. Sheila, how did you stand it?? |
I'm still waiting for the media to interview a relevant black person on this issue. Still waiting. |
Do you have a particular one in mind? |
Davey D, Kevin Powell (can't stand him, but unlike Whitlock, he substantiates his points), Nelson George, Kevin Clark, Marita Golden, Paul Porter, William C. Rhoden, Juan Rodriguez, Tonya Bolden, and others who have been writing about misogyny, gangsta culture, the impact rap has had on sports, commercialism and jiggaboos vs. wannabes for years.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 11:15 am ::: |
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| I'd add Robin D.G. Kelley to the list.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 11:16 am ::: |
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| I'm still waiting for the media to interview a relevant black person on this issue. Still waiting. |
Do you have a particular one in mind? |
Does timber count?
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| Posted: 04/12/07 11:21 am ::: |
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| I'd add Robin D.G. Kelley to the list. |
I'm surprised Cornell West hasn't dusted himself off yet. I'm pretty sure the next stop on the Live Via Satellite Rutgers World Tour '07 is the Tavis Smiley show. Has to be.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 11:22 am ::: |
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| Davey D, Kevin Powell (can't stand him, but unlike Whitlock, he substantiates his points), Nelson George, Kevin Clark, Marita Golden, Paul Porter, William C. Rhoden, Juan Rodriguez, Tonya Bolden, and others who have been writing about misogyny, gangsta culture, the impact rap has had on sports, commercialism and jiggaboos vs. wannabes for years. |
I feel you on that. I can't stand him either, but he does substantiates his points.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 11:25 am ::: |
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| I'm surprised Cornell West hasn't dusted himself off yet. I'm pretty sure the next stop on the Live Via Satellite Rutgers World Tour '07 is the Tavis Smiley show. Has to be. |
I think Cornel is still out promoting his rap CD. Maybe they can arrange some cross-promotions.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 11:49 am ::: |
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I knew better than to click on that link, but I did anyway. Now my eyes need a bath.
It's not even because I think she has this completely wrong (even more wrong than the woman she's trying to emulate, Ms. Coulter). It's because she can't seem to write a single sentence without slipping in something nasty. Ugh.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 11:51 am ::: |
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For obsessives, once again here's today's Rutgers board link thread, courtesy of dmd78, who's been doing a great job keeping order over there.
Get your Imus links here!
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| Posted: 04/12/07 12:02 pm ::: |
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What's interesting while our parents and other elders were listening to albums by Pryor and Foxx which had the word 'n-word' in the title or reading books by activist Dick Gregory called 'n-word', a young Afrika Bambaataa was running around the Bronx bestowing titles like 'King' and 'Queen' on cats as a way to make them feel good. Like Bam used to say; 'if I start calling brothers and sisters King and Queen perhaps they'll behave like Kings and Queens'. This my friends was going on in the mid 70s.
Now Don Imus has been around since the 70s. He was also someone who made a name for himself by playing popular Black music. Hence he's full of shit when he says he picked up all that 'nappy headed hoe' jargon from rappers. He was more likely to pick it up from the Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson generation since they were grown men fighting for our liberation in the 70s, but apparently not objecting to 'n-word Charlie' posters adorning our subways. Most of us within Hip Hop either weren't born or were very young when all this was happening. |
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| My question is since 1970s we been calling women bitches and hoes and calling each other n-word in very public spaces. How did this happen and continued to happen over this 30 year period.. Where did we drop the ball? How ironic that our parents missed the boat and now 20 years later they blame us for something they should've nipped in the bud back in the days.. That's something to ponder... |
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| Posted: 04/12/07 12:04 pm ::: |
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I mentioned perceptions in the other thread...now representatives from CBS are going to meet with Sharpton to discuss this.
I understand what you've been saying about not caring about Sharpton or Jackson. And I truly believe what you are saying. But how do you think people that don't get exposed to the thoughts of people like harlem, timber, tena, etc. on this board feel when they hear that Sharpton is going to be meeting with CBS?
They are going to think Sharpton speaks for the black community.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 12:17 pm ::: |
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| I remember the posters for "The Legend of n-word Charley". IIRC, Fred Williamson starred in that one.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 12:17 pm ::: |
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| They are going to think Sharpton speaks for the black community. |
Of course, which is the plan. Just like radio stations won't play a Talib Kweli record about a black man talking about becoming a more dedicated father over a Young Jeezy record about a black man selling crack, the media won't consult black leaders who have real solutions to real problems over a shit stirrer like Sharpton.
High level execs at these networks know damn well who the real black intellectuals are but they also know what gets people worked up, thus increases ratings, thus brings in money. As we get closer to the primaries, watch how the media turns to Sharpton to undermine Obama. The crabs in a barrel mentality sells.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 12:41 pm ::: |
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| I'd add Robin D.G. Kelley to the list. |
Good choice.
I'd add Pulitzer- and Tony-nominated, Grammy-winning, Yale fellow and multiple doctorate holding, poet and author Maya Angelou. She is one of the frequent and recent targets of Imus' show:
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McQuirk (mocking Angelou): Whitey plucked you from the jungle for too many years
Took away your pride, your dignity, and your spears
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McQuirk:With freedom came new woes
Into whitey's world you was rudely cast
So wake up now and go to work?
You can kiss my big black ass
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| The fact that the adult American Negro female emerges a formidable character is often met with amazement, distaste and even belligerence. It is seldom accepted as an inevitable outcome of the struggle won by survivors, and deserves respect if not enthusiastic acceptance. |
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| Posted: 04/12/07 1:42 pm ::: |
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| dtsnms wrote: |
| They are going to think Sharpton speaks for the black community. |
Of course, which is the plan. Just like radio stations won't play a Talib Kweli record about a black man talking about becoming a more dedicated father over a Young Jeezy record about a black man selling crack, the media won't consult black leaders who have real solutions to real problems over a shit stirrer like Sharpton.
High level execs at these networks know damn well who the real black intellectuals are but they also know what gets people worked up, thus increases ratings, thus brings in money. As we get closer to the primaries, watch how the media turns to Sharpton to undermine Obama. The crabs in a barrel mentality sells. |
Oh my, oh my I love this discussion.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 1:47 pm ::: |
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| dtsnms wrote: |
| They are going to think Sharpton speaks for the black community. |
Of course, which is the plan. Just like radio stations won't play a Talib Kweli record about a black man talking about becoming a more dedicated father over a Young Jeezy record about a black man selling crack, the media won't consult black leaders who have real solutions to real problems over a shit stirrer like Sharpton.
High level execs at these networks know damn well who the real black intellectuals are but they also know what gets people worked up, thus increases ratings, thus brings in money. As we get closer to the primaries, watch how the media turns to Sharpton to undermine Obama. The crabs in a barrel mentality sells. |
Oh my, oh my I love this discussion. |
so where does Oprah now fit into all this. I just have visions of her leaning over with that "concerned look" toward Matee Ajavon.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 2:09 pm ::: |
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| They are going to think Sharpton speaks for the black community. |
Of course, which is the plan. Just like radio stations won't play a Talib Kweli record about a black man talking about becoming a more dedicated father over a Young Jeezy record about a black man selling crack, the media won't consult black leaders who have real solutions to real problems over a shit stirrer like Sharpton.
High level execs at these networks know damn well who the real black intellectuals are but they also know what gets people worked up, thus increases ratings, thus brings in money. As we get closer to the primaries, watch how the media turns to Sharpton to undermine Obama. The crabs in a barrel mentality sells. |
Oh my, oh my I love this discussion. |
so where does Oprah now fit into all this. I just have visions of her leaning over with that "concerned look" toward Matee Ajavon. |
Oprah would have been absolutely ROASTED by the black community if she didn't cover this just like she's being ROASTED for not covering the case of that little girl who was sentenced to prison for pushing a hall monitor.
But anyway, the slow rendition of the Oprah theme song plays as they come back from commercial.
Oprah, legs crossed, titled in her comfy chair toward the big screen displaying Rutgers in their RU red live via satellite, purses her lips, scrunches up her brow and folds her hands across the top of the chair: "So Essence, how did this make you feel as a black woman?" Meanwhile, instead of showing Essence, we're treated to the weird, yet interesting faces and knowing nods of Oprah and the absolute horror on the faces of her completely out of touch audience who just can't believe - can't BELIEVE - someone would dare do such a terrible thing.
After discussing the situation with Rutgers and piggybacking everything that's already been said ad nauseum, the slow version of the Oprah theme song plays as she heads into a commercial break thanking the strong Rutgers women for giving us their side. She comes back from commercial professing her love for John Travolta and gives everybody in the audience a free something or other. 
At some point during the discussion, you'll hear: "my friend Gail and I were discussing this" in relation to something, anything.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 2:13 pm ::: |
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| Thank you harlem, that is just too fucking funny.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 2:45 pm ::: |
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Snoop Dogg on Imus:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1556803/20070410/id_0.jhtml
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| [Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC [which announced Wednesday it would drop its simulcast of Imus' radio show] going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha----as say we in the same league as him. |
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| Posted: 04/12/07 2:48 pm ::: |
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Snoop Dogg on Imus:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1556803/20070410/id_0.jhtml
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| [Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC [which announced Wednesday it would drop its simulcast of Imus' radio show] going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha----as say we in the same league as him. |
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It's always fun when they quote the coons for "balance".
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| Posted: 04/12/07 2:51 pm ::: |
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Black NFL coaches on Imus
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=238176
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| Coach Dungy explained that, "This incident has caused more pain to us than any other racially insensitive incident in our industry that I can remember. |
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| Posted: 04/12/07 2:56 pm ::: |
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| Ah Tony, the homosexual hating football coach has pain huh? Shame ain't it?
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| Posted: 04/12/07 3:01 pm ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
Snoop Dogg on Imus:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1556803/20070410/id_0.jhtml
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| [Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about ho's that's in the 'hood that ain't doing sh--, that's trying to get a n---a for his money. These are two separate things. First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC [which announced Wednesday it would drop its simulcast of Imus' radio show] going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them mutha----as say we in the same league as him. |
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LOL! It is!
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