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MsTena-T
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Posted: 04/12/07 3:04 pm ::: |
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Ah Tony, the homosexual hating football coach has pain huh? Shame ain't it? |
Sooo DTS exactly who is "qualified" according to you to have an opinion on this situation?
See what I have problem with is this IMUS has a HISTORY an ongoing history of slurs . . . sooo should he never be checked or pay the consequences for that?
Or better yet should only non-black folks be the ones making comment on this situation?
This ain't his 1st or 2nd or 3rd offense.
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dtsnms
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Posted: 04/12/07 3:09 pm ::: |
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MsTena-T wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
Ah Tony, the homosexual hating football coach has pain huh? Shame ain't it? |
Sooo DTS exactly who is "qualified" according to you to have an opinion on this situation?
See what I have problem with is this IMUS has a HISTORY an ongoing history of slurs . . . sooo should he never be checked or pay the consequences for that?
Or better yet should only non-black folks be the ones making comment on this situation?
This ain't his 1st or 2nd or 3rd offense. |
Tena, you don't think that Tony Dungy, after appearing at a homosexual-hate group event is being a little hypocritical here in criticizing someone for what they said? Besides, we already heard from Snoop now. What could anyone else add?
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pilight
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Posted: 04/12/07 3:19 pm ::: |
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More Davey D on Imus
http://www.mercurynews.com/eyeheadlines/ci_5648872
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Imus was correct. A lot of hip-hop artists have said worse things. It was only last week that we saw Snoop Dogg being praised for criticizing conservative pundit Bill O'Reilly on a popular Netherlands TV talk show. |
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timber
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Posted: 04/12/07 6:57 pm ::: |
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Ah, the resident coon quotable has spoken.....we can all go home happy now because Snoop has proven our point, no matter what side of this debate you are on.....all that's missing is an asinine excuse from Hustle Simmons.
Hip Hop just died this mornin' and she's deaad she's deaad.
Nas summed up my feelings perfectly on rap music.....and I'm finding more and more that we're hardly alone.
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Unforgettable, unsubmittable, I go by N now
Just one syllable, it's the end cause the game's tired
It's the same vibe, Good Times had right after James died
That's why the gangsta rhymers ain't inspired
Heinous crimes help record sales more than creative lines
And I don't wanna keep bringing up the greater times
But I'm a dreamer nostalgic with the state of mind |
Now that they've fired Imus, can they go down the dial and wipe out Shot 97? I'll wait.
By the way, I give Al Sharpton hell just like the next person, but he is not the one to ask "why blacks aren't doing anything about rap music" (although I'm sure in the last week, we've all learned how untrue that is....right?).
Rev Al has long been railing against commercial rap music even going so far as to try and get more airplay for rappers who promote more positive images. But when huge corporations ([sarcasm]run by blacks I'm sure[/sarcasm]) are paying DJ's and program directors hundreds of thousands of dollars to play "F*** You, Bang Bang, N****a Die Slow" music as my man Star used to say........
For the record, I don't agree with Imus being fired....and I actually grew up listening to him.
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womens_hoops
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Posted: 04/12/07 7:12 pm ::: |
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timber wrote: |
But when huge corporations ([sarcasm]run by blacks I'm sure[/sarcasm]) are paying DJ's and program directors... |
how 'bout the one huge corporation that is run by blacks? Any chance it'll get the message?
http://passtheword.wordpress.com/2007/04/11/nappy-headed-imus-viii-next-target-bet/
my guess: no.
meanwhile, for the first time in about 3 years, i find myself agreeing with something written by glenn reynolds: "I've never liked Imus, and his comments were disgraceful, but this seems like it's been a feeding frenzy. And, really, who cares what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson think about proper public demeanor?"
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timber
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Posted: 04/12/07 7:26 pm ::: |
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womens_hoops wrote: |
timber wrote: |
But when huge corporations ([sarcasm]run by blacks I'm sure[/sarcasm]) are paying DJ's and program directors... |
how 'bout the one huge corporation that is run by blacks? Any chance it'll get the message?
http://passtheword.wordpress.com/2007/04/11/nappy-headed-imus-viii-next-target-bet/
my guess: no.
meanwhile, for the first time in about 3 years, i find myself agreeing with something written by glenn reynolds: "I've never liked Imus, and his comments were disgraceful, but this seems like it's been a feeding frenzy. And, really, who cares what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson think about proper public demeanor?" |
Viacom owns BET. There isn't a black person running anything up and through BET. That's like attacking Def Jam because Jay-Z's the president or Hustle Simmons was the co-founder. Jay-Z can't take a piss without Universal/Vivendi saying so.
Trust, I've been on the conga line calling BET out for years....as anyone who ever followed the blog is my witness....Blacks Embarassing Themselves, remember....even when Bob Johnson did own it and was shucking and jiving like a sambo up there with that UnCut bs and the cancellation of positive programming like Teen Summitt.
BobCat sold out long before he actually cashed out. Compare BET to how it was even in the early to mid 90's to now and it's no comparison.
Why the change? Huge record labels started paying the network to play certain videos 3 times an hour around 1996. Huge record labels....which brings us back to our original point.
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womens_hoops
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Posted: 04/12/07 7:37 pm ::: |
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There isn't a black person running anything up and through BET. |
Debra and Reginald are black, no? Most of the day-to-day ops and programming people too...
They must have at least some say about what gets on the air.
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beknighted
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Posted: 04/12/07 7:55 pm ::: |
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womens_hoops wrote: |
timber wrote: |
But when huge corporations ([sarcasm]run by blacks I'm sure[/sarcasm]) are paying DJ's and program directors... |
how 'bout the one huge corporation that is run by blacks? Any chance it'll get the message? |
Yeah, but it's owned by a company run by Sumner Redstone, so . . .
Of course, the complaints about the programming predate that.
I'm actually going to a dinner at Debra Lee's house later this week. In one of the great ironies of the world, it used to be owned by Jack Kent Cooke, the owner of the Redskins, the last team in the NFL to have a black player (although that was before he owned the team).
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timber
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Posted: 04/12/07 7:58 pm ::: |
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womens_hoops wrote: |
timber wrote: |
There isn't a black person running anything up and through BET. |
Debra and Reginald are black, no? Most of the day-to-day ops and programming people too...
They must have at least some say about what gets on the air. |
Debra...ask Sheila about Debra's morals. Black women have been asking for years where her head is at when she watches BET.....Sheila too when it first went downhill.
One of their former employees has been making a fuss over this very topic lately, even bitching about it on Wendy Williams.
When Bob Johnson owned BET in its early days before he jumped the shark and painted his face, the day to day ops and programming people actually had jobs....they got paid like shit, but they actually had jobs....now they have titles.
None of those people have any power. Reggie is the lone crusader over there. I really like some of his new programming ideas.....but he's only been there really in the trenches for a little over a year and Viacom's been battling his vision.
I'd like to be optimistic, but I don't think he'll even be able to change the programming over there completely. His approach is, "if I put enough syndicated shows and original programming on, I can phase out the video shows like MTV did so then the money, power and influence of these record labels won't matter. I can just tell them we don't have the time."
Put it to you this way...
Jay-Z drops a new record...better yet....Young Jeezy drops a new record.
You're the PD over at BET or any radio station...you think the record sucks ass and is nothing but "F*** You, Bang Bang N***a Die Slow" music glorifying everything wrong with society.
You've got a tv show like 106th and Park on BET. It's your main attraction.....kills TRL and has been killing MTV for years. Young Jeezy's the hottest thing going on the charts. A Universal/Def Jam employee gets wind that you don't want to play the record. Calls you up and says, "If you don't play that new Young Jeezy, no Def Jam artist will appear on any BET show until you do."
You're the PD at the Shot 97. Summer Jam is your biggest event....sells out Giants Stadium....you don't want to play Jeezy or anything else you deem negative....but no Jeezy record = no Universal artists on the bill performing at Summer Jam.
You're a mix DJ at Shot 97. You want to play positive music like Common. Shot 97 pays you a salary of $20,000 a year....yet you reach over 2 million listeners daily.
You make your real money going on tour with various rap acts....one of whom is Common. Your bosses at Shot 97 are making you play 50 Cent during your mix show. You refuse.
Interscope Records, 50's label gets mad. Common's got a distribution deal with Geffen Records, owned by.....Interscope. The next day you get a call from Geffen saying you can't dj for Common on his tour because you won't play that new 50. Now you've lost a $4-5,000 a night gig and Shot 97 can replace you because all you dj's sound alike any way.
Are you running things or are Geffen/Interscope, Universal/Def Jam and all these other conglomerates running things?
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womens_hoops
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Posted: 04/12/07 7:58 pm ::: |
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Yeah, but it's owned by a company run by Sumner Redstone, so . . . |
do you think Sumner Redstone makes programming decisions for all 30 television networks that Viacom owns?
no, he doesn't.
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timber
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Iluvacc
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Posted: 04/12/07 8:17 pm ::: |
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timber wrote: |
womens_hoops wrote: |
timber wrote: |
But when huge corporations ([sarcasm]run by blacks I'm sure[/sarcasm]) are paying DJ's and program directors... |
how 'bout the one huge corporation that is run by blacks? Any chance it'll get the message?
http://passtheword.wordpress.com/2007/04/11/nappy-headed-imus-viii-next-target-bet/
my guess: no.
meanwhile, for the first time in about 3 years, i find myself agreeing with something written by glenn reynolds: "I've never liked Imus, and his comments were disgraceful, but this seems like it's been a feeding frenzy. And, really, who cares what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson think about proper public demeanor?" |
Viacom owns BET. There isn't a black person running anything up and through BET. That's like attacking Def Jam because Jay-Z's the president or Hustle Simmons was the co-founder. Jay-Z can't take a piss without Universal/Vivendi saying so.
Trust, I've been on the conga line calling BET out for years....as anyone who ever followed the blog is my witness....Blacks Embarassing Themselves, remember....even when Bob Johnson did own it and was shucking and jiving like a sambo up there with that UnCut bs and the cancellation of positive programming like Teen Summitt.
BobCat sold out long before he actually cashed out. Compare BET to how it was even in the early to mid 90's to now and it's no comparison.
Why the change? Huge record labels started paying the network to play certain videos 3 times an hour around 1996. Huge record labels....which brings us back to our original point. |
Don't forget canceling the network's only news program.
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timber
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Posted: 04/12/07 8:27 pm ::: |
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Iluvacc wrote: |
timber wrote: |
womens_hoops wrote: |
timber wrote: |
But when huge corporations ([sarcasm]run by blacks I'm sure[/sarcasm]) are paying DJ's and program directors... |
how 'bout the one huge corporation that is run by blacks? Any chance it'll get the message?
http://passtheword.wordpress.com/2007/04/11/nappy-headed-imus-viii-next-target-bet/
my guess: no.
meanwhile, for the first time in about 3 years, i find myself agreeing with something written by glenn reynolds: "I've never liked Imus, and his comments were disgraceful, but this seems like it's been a feeding frenzy. And, really, who cares what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson think about proper public demeanor?" |
Viacom owns BET. There isn't a black person running anything up and through BET. That's like attacking Def Jam because Jay-Z's the president or Hustle Simmons was the co-founder. Jay-Z can't take a piss without Universal/Vivendi saying so.
Trust, I've been on the conga line calling BET out for years....as anyone who ever followed the blog is my witness....Blacks Embarassing Themselves, remember....even when Bob Johnson did own it and was shucking and jiving like a sambo up there with that UnCut bs and the cancellation of positive programming like Teen Summitt.
BobCat sold out long before he actually cashed out. Compare BET to how it was even in the early to mid 90's to now and it's no comparison.
Why the change? Huge record labels started paying the network to play certain videos 3 times an hour around 1996. Huge record labels....which brings us back to our original point. |
Don't forget canceling the network's only news program. |
Thanks...I knew I left something out. I remember that like it was yesterday too.
I was like, "Black Entertainment Television....oh really? So blacks can't live without one more hour of ass, titties, pimps and gang signs in favor of the news, eh?"
They even had a health show on BET back in the '80s if I remember correctly. <Sigh> I'm reaching that depressed state where I pull out all my old Video LP and Video Soul tapes. Donnie Simpson where are you? Why????????
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beknighted
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Posted: 04/12/07 8:27 pm ::: |
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womens_hoops wrote: |
beknighted wrote: |
Yeah, but it's owned by a company run by Sumner Redstone, so . . . |
do you think Sumner Redstone makes programming decisions for all 30 television networks that Viacom owns?
no, he doesn't. |
Of course not, but he's still the one in charge.
For that matter, Les Moonves doesn't make the programming decisions for all 120 CBS radio stations, Westwood One and the CBS Radio Network, but we all would agree that he runs the show at CBS Radio.
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womens_hoops
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Posted: 04/12/07 8:30 pm ::: |
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Don't forget canceling the network's only news program. |
isn't The Chop Up still on?
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timber
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Iluvacc
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Posted: 04/12/07 8:39 pm ::: |
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timber wrote: |
Iluvacc wrote: |
timber wrote: |
womens_hoops wrote: |
timber wrote: |
But when huge corporations ([sarcasm]run by blacks I'm sure[/sarcasm]) are paying DJ's and program directors... |
how 'bout the one huge corporation that is run by blacks? Any chance it'll get the message?
http://passtheword.wordpress.com/2007/04/11/nappy-headed-imus-viii-next-target-bet/
my guess: no.
meanwhile, for the first time in about 3 years, i find myself agreeing with something written by glenn reynolds: "I've never liked Imus, and his comments were disgraceful, but this seems like it's been a feeding frenzy. And, really, who cares what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson think about proper public demeanor?" |
Viacom owns BET. There isn't a black person running anything up and through BET. That's like attacking Def Jam because Jay-Z's the president or Hustle Simmons was the co-founder. Jay-Z can't take a piss without Universal/Vivendi saying so.
Trust, I've been on the conga line calling BET out for years....as anyone who ever followed the blog is my witness....Blacks Embarassing Themselves, remember....even when Bob Johnson did own it and was shucking and jiving like a sambo up there with that UnCut bs and the cancellation of positive programming like Teen Summitt.
BobCat sold out long before he actually cashed out. Compare BET to how it was even in the early to mid 90's to now and it's no comparison.
Why the change? Huge record labels started paying the network to play certain videos 3 times an hour around 1996. Huge record labels....which brings us back to our original point. |
Don't forget canceling the network's only news program. |
Thanks...I knew I left something out. I remember that like it was yesterday too.
I was like, "Black Entertainment Television....oh really? So blacks can't live without one more hour of ass, titties, pimps and gang signs in favor of the news, eh?"
They even had a health show on BET back in the '80s if I remember correctly. <Sigh> I'm reaching that depressed state where I pull out all my old Video LP and Video Soul tapes. Donnie Simpson where are you? Why???????? |
You mean the show with Tom Joyner's wife, Donna Richardson?
I miss Video Soul and Planet Groove...I think Uncut was one of the worst things to happen to BET.
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Posted: 04/12/07 8:45 pm ::: |
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Iluvacc wrote: |
You mean the show with Tom Joyner's wife, Donna Richardson?
I miss Video Soul and Planet Groove...I think Uncut was one of the worst things to happen to BET. |
There was that one, but I could swear there was one on even before that. I could be mistaken. I liked the videos on Planet Groove, but Rachel's offbeat self bothered me. I was always a much bigger Sherry Carter fan.
I loved Video Soul. I remember being little and thinking people were just passing by Donnie's apartment and hopped on that elevator for a visit. I swear I used to wonder who lived across the hall. "Look Mommy, I want a stage in my room too so ABC can come sing to me."
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