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| Still nothing more than a ballhog, but one who refused to lose. She made some huge plays for her team today.
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| Posted: 03/24/07 4:15 pm ::: |
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| Still nothing more than a ballhog, but one who refused to lose. She made some huge plays for her team today. |
According to the ESPN box score, she led RU in assists with 5, the same number as Harding, who led Duke. Ajavon had only 2 TOs, too.
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| Posted: 03/24/07 4:28 pm ::: |
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| Still nothing more than a ballhog, but one who refused to lose. She made some huge plays for her team today. |
RU seemed to be ball-hoggish today. If not for Lindsay's erm, "efforts". 20-25 secs into 70-85% of your posessions? I know it's 90% of the law, but damn! They could have lost this game just as easily._________________ "What is delayed, is not denied." - Gail Goestenkors cc Kay Yow
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| Posted: 03/24/07 4:36 pm ::: |
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| According to the ESPN box score, she led RU in assists with 5, the same number as Harding, who led Duke. Ajavon had only 2 TOs, too. |
beknighted, I don't give a shit what the box score says. I know what game I watched. Early in the second half, she'd already missed 8 shots (2-10 from the field) and was also intent on going one-one-one with 7 seconds left. If that's not a ball hog, I don't know what is.
Like I said earlier, Arenas made the shots when her team needed scores.
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| Posted: 03/24/07 4:40 pm ::: |
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| beknighted, I don't give a shit what the box score says. |
I'm aware of that. I'm also aware that most people see what they want to see. For instance, I saw a Duke defense that did a very good job making it hard for RU to get the ball into the post, and that closed off passing lanes exceptionally well. That's why it's helpful to have statistics.
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| Posted: 03/24/07 4:40 pm ::: |
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| Ajavon took 1/3 of Rutgers shots, 19 out of 57. That's a ballhog.
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| Posted: 03/24/07 4:46 pm ::: |
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| Ajavon took 1/3 of Rutgers shots, 19 out of 57. That's a ballhog. |
True, but how many did she make and what about the crucial shots?
I can see if the team scores 104 total, but "Hot Player" scores 102 of them; HOWEVER, when a player is hot: (ie: Ajavon, Bales) why go away from them?
That open shot Allie missed was the BEST drawn up play despite missing! It certainly wouldn't have put Lindsay in such a predicament had it gone down!
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| Posted: 03/24/07 4:49 pm ::: |
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| Ajavon took 1/3 of Rutgers shots, 19 out of 57. That's a ballhog. |
True, but how many did she make and what about the crucial shots? |
She made 7, for 37% shooting.
In the last round, when Rutgers scored 70 points, she took eight shots.
Ajavon did more to keep Duke in the game than Bales and Harding combined.
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| Posted: 03/24/07 4:50 pm ::: |
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| Ajavon took 1/3 of Rutgers shots, 19 out of 57. That's a ballhog. |
no, that's RU's offense!  |
Actually they were "hogging" the ball! I understand Duke's zone worked through out most of the game, but being aggressive by driving and going to the stripe on offense is just as -- maybe more effective than standing and shooting.
And eating up time! It's only a 40 minute game. I wouldn't wanna play "keep away" with loads to time on the clock giving the D a chance! This is not football._________________ "What is delayed, is not denied." - Gail Goestenkors cc Kay Yow
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| Posted: 03/24/07 5:05 pm ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
| Ajavon took 1/3 of Rutgers shots, 19 out of 57. That's a ballhog. |
True, but how many did she make and what about the crucial shots? |
She made 7, for 37% shooting.
In the last round, when Rutgers scored 70 points, she took eight shots.
Ajavon did more to keep Duke in the game than Bales and Harding combined. |
Today's game! 
But isn't that what a go-to player is supposed to do? She's not Mr. Bryant (65,50,60,50) or Dee (47 in 35 shots) but in comparing Matee to the former two, who was/is she closer to? (Wasn't Dee's 47 in a 1-point 3OT win? She fouled out of that game, too)
You have to credit RU's defense! When you shut down the country's best defender while hitting essentially the game winner -- that says alot. Hey, the best FT shooters, don't always make the foul shots -- evidenced today_________________ "What is delayed, is not denied." - Gail Goestenkors cc Kay Yow
Stop the presses! Stop the hot damn presses!! We won the ship!!
*fondles lucky Penny!*
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| Posted: 03/24/07 5:27 pm ::: |
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| Today's game! |
She went 4-22 against UConn a few weeks back.
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| But isn't that what a go-to player is supposed to do? |
Well, that's why it's not a good idea for a "point guard" to be the primary go-to player.
She is a ballhog, but people don't seem to care because her team is winning right now. Let's see if she gets this much ESPN fanfare if she takes 20-something shots, hits less than 8 of them--and her team loses. |
You mean Matee and not Linsday? If Lindsay, then, especially if there's was no foul at all and she missed anyway. She wasn't a very intricate part of the ball game; however, to say "wtf" when Allie takes the best shot possible and misses, it Gail's fault? (Not referring to you) Allison was the go-to NOT Linsday; I agree with you, but if she had the "hot-hand" like Bales? Was Bales even in the final play? (I didn't see her.)
Whoa! It's possible to win with one player shooting 30% or less as that calls for the TEAM to step up, but if they aren't doing well themselves?
Artistically, it wasn't pretty, but a win is a win no matter how ugly for either side sometimes._________________ "What is delayed, is not denied." - Gail Goestenkors cc Kay Yow
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| Posted: 03/24/07 5:37 pm ::: |
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| Today's game! |
She went 4-22 against UConn a few weeks back.
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| But isn't that what a go-to player is supposed to do? |
Well, that's why it's not a good idea for a "point guard" to be the primary go-to player.
She is a ballhog, but people don't seem to care because her team is winning right now. Let's see if she gets this much ESPN fanfare if she takes 20-something shots, hits less than 8 of them--and her team loses. |
a win is a win no matter how ugly for either side sometimes. |
In regards to this time of the year, truer words have never been spoken. |
This has been the wildest year, yet! I thought nothing would top last year. 3 teams in last year, but three -- and heaven forbid four -- who would have been n it last year -- go down this year!!
Sass: Hell may actually freeze over!!  _________________ "What is delayed, is not denied." - Gail Goestenkors cc Kay Yow
Stop the presses! Stop the hot damn presses!! We won the ship!!
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Forgot that we are talking about the State University of New Jersey here. Silly me! 
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