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PostPosted: 03/29/07 1:52 pm    ::: Dawn Staley Reply Reply with quote

Just got this e-mail from Temple...

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Temple University and Dawn Staley have agreed on a six year contract extension for Dawn to remain as coach of the highly successful Temple Women's Basketball Program.


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PostPosted: 03/29/07 1:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Florida usually gets who they want, except in women's basketball.


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PostPosted: 03/29/07 2:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Florida usually gets who they want, except in women's basketball.


I wouldn't want Staley. She hasn't been a head caoch that long, especially in a major conference. I think she needs more experience with recruiting and running a program to be successful in a BCS conference. I also just hate the way her teams play.


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PostPosted: 03/30/07 10:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dawn Staley is more than capable of taking on a job at a bigger university. I hear people talking about can Dawn coach in a BCS conference? I'm like she's coaching football now? LOL! Let me give a football analogy. Urban Meyer never was a head coach in a BCS conference before coming to Florida and he's won a national championship now. Dawn Staley has a brand in womens basketball that a few coaches that have won national championships still and probably won't have.



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PostPosted: 03/30/07 11:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kamala wrote:
Dawn Staley is more than capable of taking on a job at a bigger university. I hear people talking about can Dawn coach in a BCS conference? I'm like she's coaching football now? LOL! Let me give a football analogy. Urban Meyer never was a head coach in a BCS conference before coming to Florida and he's won a national championship now. Dawn Staley has a brand in womens basketball that a few coaches that have won national championships still and probably won't have.


Urban Meyer had seen significantly more success before coming to Florida than Staley has at Temple, including an undefeated season. Staley has one A10 championship.


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PostPosted: 03/30/07 12:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
Urban Meyer had seen significantly more success before coming to Florida than Staley has at Temple, including an undefeated season. Staley has one A10 championship.


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http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cbask-w/news/BLN4070804.htm

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The Philadelphia native is a two-time Atlantic 10 Conference Coach of the Year (2004, 2005) and has guided the Owls to four conference championships over the past seven seasons. Her best season came in 2004-05 when she led Temple to a 28-4 overall mark, and a perfect 16-0 record in A-10 play.


Sounds like she's had her fair share of success at Temple.



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PostPosted: 03/30/07 1:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bballfan2005 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Urban Meyer had seen significantly more success before coming to Florida than Staley has at Temple, including an undefeated season. Staley has one A10 championship.


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http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cbask-w/news/BLN4070804.htm

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The Philadelphia native is a two-time Atlantic 10 Conference Coach of the Year (2004, 2005) and has guided the Owls to four conference championships over the past seven seasons. Her best season came in 2004-05 when she led Temple to a 28-4 overall mark, and a perfect 16-0 record in A-10 play.


Sounds like she's had her fair share of success at Temple.


Seven years. Wow. When you are wrong you are wrong.

I still don't see her as the equivalent of Urban Meyer's perfect season and post-season success, but that is me.


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PostPosted: 03/30/07 5:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Urban Meyer had seen significantly more success before coming to Florida than Staley has at Temple, including an undefeated season. Staley has one A10 championship.


Confused

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cbask-w/news/BLN4070804.htm

Quote:
The Philadelphia native is a two-time Atlantic 10 Conference Coach of the Year (2004, 2005) and has guided the Owls to four conference championships over the past seven seasons. Her best season came in 2004-05 when she led Temple to a 28-4 overall mark, and a perfect 16-0 record in A-10 play.


Sounds like she's had her fair share of success at Temple.


Seven years. Wow. When you are wrong you are wrong.

I still don't see her as the equivalent of Urban Meyer's perfect season and post-season success, but that is me.


The issue is that Urban Meyer came to prominence coaching Utah in the Mountain West Conference and his credentials aren't questioned yet Dawn Staley coaches Temple in the A-10 and her credentials are questioned. The A-10 isn't the Big East but it's a whole helluva lot more of a creditable conference than the Mountain West.



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PostPosted: 03/30/07 5:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Urban Meyer had seen significantly more success before coming to Florida than Staley has at Temple, including an undefeated season. Staley has one A10 championship.


Confused

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cbask-w/news/BLN4070804.htm

Quote:
The Philadelphia native is a two-time Atlantic 10 Conference Coach of the Year (2004, 2005) and has guided the Owls to four conference championships over the past seven seasons. Her best season came in 2004-05 when she led Temple to a 28-4 overall mark, and a perfect 16-0 record in A-10 play.


Sounds like she's had her fair share of success at Temple.


Seven years. Wow. When you are wrong you are wrong.

I still don't see her as the equivalent of Urban Meyer's perfect season and post-season success, but that is me.


The issue is that Urban Meyer came to prominence coaching Utah in the Mountain West Conference and his credentials aren't questioned yet Dawn Staley coaches Temple in the A-10 and her credentials are questioned. The A-10 isn't the Big East but it's a whole helluva lot more of a creditable conference than the Mountain West.


Urban Meyer came to prominence during 13 years as an assistant, leading Bolwing Green to the biggest turnaround in the NCAA his first year as a head coach, his better than .800 winning percentage, an undefeated season and an undefeated career post-season record.

But please, tell us what we all know you are thinking Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 03/30/07 5:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Urban Meyer had seen significantly more success before coming to Florida than Staley has at Temple, including an undefeated season. Staley has one A10 championship.


Confused

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cbask-w/news/BLN4070804.htm

Quote:
The Philadelphia native is a two-time Atlantic 10 Conference Coach of the Year (2004, 2005) and has guided the Owls to four conference championships over the past seven seasons. Her best season came in 2004-05 when she led Temple to a 28-4 overall mark, and a perfect 16-0 record in A-10 play.


Sounds like she's had her fair share of success at Temple.


Seven years. Wow. When you are wrong you are wrong.

I still don't see her as the equivalent of Urban Meyer's perfect season and post-season success, but that is me.


The issue is that Urban Meyer came to prominence coaching Utah in the Mountain West Conference and his credentials aren't questioned yet Dawn Staley coaches Temple in the A-10 and her credentials are questioned. The A-10 isn't the Big East but it's a whole helluva lot more of a creditable conference than the Mountain West.


Urban Meyer came to prominence during 13 years as an assistant, leading Bolwing Green to the biggest turnaround in the NCAA his first year as a head coach, his better than .800 winning percentage, an undefeated season and an undefeated career post-season record.

But please, tell us what we all know you are thinking Rolling Eyes


That's nice. But ask yourself how did Dawn Staley come to prominence? By being one of the greatest basketball players of all-time that's how. Not to mention she HAS proven herself to be a helluva coach. If you ask me Dawn has a leg up on Urban b/c she's done it on the court and on the sidelines. What kind of an athlete was Urban?



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PostPosted: 03/30/07 5:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Urban Meyer had seen significantly more success before coming to Florida than Staley has at Temple, including an undefeated season. Staley has one A10 championship.


Confused

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cbask-w/news/BLN4070804.htm

Quote:
The Philadelphia native is a two-time Atlantic 10 Conference Coach of the Year (2004, 2005) and has guided the Owls to four conference championships over the past seven seasons. Her best season came in 2004-05 when she led Temple to a 28-4 overall mark, and a perfect 16-0 record in A-10 play.


Sounds like she's had her fair share of success at Temple.


Seven years. Wow. When you are wrong you are wrong.

I still don't see her as the equivalent of Urban Meyer's perfect season and post-season success, but that is me.


The issue is that Urban Meyer came to prominence coaching Utah in the Mountain West Conference and his credentials aren't questioned yet Dawn Staley coaches Temple in the A-10 and her credentials are questioned. The A-10 isn't the Big East but it's a whole helluva lot more of a creditable conference than the Mountain West.


Urban Meyer came to prominence during 13 years as an assistant, leading Bolwing Green to the biggest turnaround in the NCAA his first year as a head coach, his better than .800 winning percentage, an undefeated season and an undefeated career post-season record.

But please, tell us what we all know you are thinking Rolling Eyes


That's nice. But ask yourself how did Dawn Staley come to prominence? By being one of the greatest basketball players of all-time that's how. Not to mention she HAS proven herself to be a helluva coach. If you ask me Dawn has a leg up on Urban b/c she's done it on the court and on the sidelines. What kind of an athlete was Urban?


How many national championship winning coaches played at the level Staley has? I don't count many. What is the evidence that playing career actually translates to coaching success?


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PostPosted: 03/30/07 6:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Urban Meyer had seen significantly more success before coming to Florida than Staley has at Temple, including an undefeated season. Staley has one A10 championship.


Confused

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cbask-w/news/BLN4070804.htm

Quote:
The Philadelphia native is a two-time Atlantic 10 Conference Coach of the Year (2004, 2005) and has guided the Owls to four conference championships over the past seven seasons. Her best season came in 2004-05 when she led Temple to a 28-4 overall mark, and a perfect 16-0 record in A-10 play.


Sounds like she's had her fair share of success at Temple.


Seven years. Wow. When you are wrong you are wrong.

I still don't see her as the equivalent of Urban Meyer's perfect season and post-season success, but that is me.


The issue is that Urban Meyer came to prominence coaching Utah in the Mountain West Conference and his credentials aren't questioned yet Dawn Staley coaches Temple in the A-10 and her credentials are questioned. The A-10 isn't the Big East but it's a whole helluva lot more of a creditable conference than the Mountain West.


Urban Meyer came to prominence during 13 years as an assistant, leading Bolwing Green to the biggest turnaround in the NCAA his first year as a head coach, his better than .800 winning percentage, an undefeated season and an undefeated career post-season record.

But please, tell us what we all know you are thinking Rolling Eyes


That's nice. But ask yourself how did Dawn Staley come to prominence? By being one of the greatest basketball players of all-time that's how. Not to mention she HAS proven herself to be a helluva coach. If you ask me Dawn has a leg up on Urban b/c she's done it on the court and on the sidelines. What kind of an athlete was Urban?


How many national championship winning coaches played at the level Staley has? I don't count many. What is the evidence that playing career actually translates to coaching success?


You fell for it. To answer your question, most of the athletes in say basketball that play at the highest levels don't get a chance to become head coaches at a major university like Florida like Meyer is b/c they are usually Black. These Black athletes while praised for their physical prowess are stereotypically seen as being intellectually inferior. So, I feel that until you see Blacks represented on the sidelines as head coaches (and ADs) like you see them represented on the football fields and basketball courts the jury will remain out whether one's playing career translates to coaching success.

I just want to see the Black Lawrence Frank or the Black Mike Leach of coaching. You know a Black coach that didn't even play college ball. You know a Black coach that didn't have damn near a hall of fame athletic career. Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 03/30/07 7:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kamala wrote:
The same stuff s/he always resorts to.


Thank you for finally being honest about your agenda. We all knew what it really was.

I had asked for you to do so a couple of posts ago.

[quote=Me]But please, tell us what we all know you are thinking[/quote]


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Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Urban Meyer had seen significantly more success before coming to Florida than Staley has at Temple, including an undefeated season. Staley has one A10 championship.


Confused

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cbask-w/news/BLN4070804.htm

Quote:
The Philadelphia native is a two-time Atlantic 10 Conference Coach of the Year (2004, 2005) and has guided the Owls to four conference championships over the past seven seasons. Her best season came in 2004-05 when she led Temple to a 28-4 overall mark, and a perfect 16-0 record in A-10 play.


Sounds like she's had her fair share of success at Temple.


Seven years. Wow. When you are wrong you are wrong.

I still don't see her as the equivalent of Urban Meyer's perfect season and post-season success, but that is me.


The issue is that Urban Meyer came to prominence coaching Utah in the Mountain West Conference and his credentials aren't questioned yet Dawn Staley coaches Temple in the A-10 and her credentials are questioned. The A-10 isn't the Big East but it's a whole helluva lot more of a creditable conference than the Mountain West.


Urban Meyer came to prominence during 13 years as an assistant, leading Bolwing Green to the biggest turnaround in the NCAA his first year as a head coach, his better than .800 winning percentage, an undefeated season and an undefeated career post-season record.

But please, tell us what we all know you are thinking Rolling Eyes


That's nice. But ask yourself how did Dawn Staley come to prominence? By being one of the greatest basketball players of all-time that's how. Not to mention she HAS proven herself to be a helluva coach. If you ask me Dawn has a leg up on Urban b/c she's done it on the court and on the sidelines. What kind of an athlete was Urban?


How many national championship winning coaches played at the level Staley has? I don't count many. What is the evidence that playing career actually translates to coaching success?


You fell for it. To answer your question, most of the athletes in say basketball that play at the highest levels don't get a chance to become head coaches at a major university like Florida like Meyer is b/c they are usually Black. These Black athletes while praised for their physical prowess are stereotypically seen as being intellectually inferior. So, I feel that until you see Blacks represented on the sidelines as head coaches (and ADs) like you see them represented on the football fields and basketball courts the jury will remain out whether one's playing career translates to coaching success.

I just want to see the Black Lawrence Frank or the Black Mike Leach of coaching. You know a Black coach that didn't even play college ball. You know a Black coach that didn't have damn near a hall of fame athletic career. Rolling Eyes


Who is Urban Meyer?



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LakotaStorm wrote:
Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Kamala wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
Urban Meyer had seen significantly more success before coming to Florida than Staley has at Temple, including an undefeated season. Staley has one A10 championship.


Confused

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cbask-w/news/BLN4070804.htm

Quote:
The Philadelphia native is a two-time Atlantic 10 Conference Coach of the Year (2004, 2005) and has guided the Owls to four conference championships over the past seven seasons. Her best season came in 2004-05 when she led Temple to a 28-4 overall mark, and a perfect 16-0 record in A-10 play.


Sounds like she's had her fair share of success at Temple.


Seven years. Wow. When you are wrong you are wrong.

I still don't see her as the equivalent of Urban Meyer's perfect season and post-season success, but that is me.


The issue is that Urban Meyer came to prominence coaching Utah in the Mountain West Conference and his credentials aren't questioned yet Dawn Staley coaches Temple in the A-10 and her credentials are questioned. The A-10 isn't the Big East but it's a whole helluva lot more of a creditable conference than the Mountain West.


Urban Meyer came to prominence during 13 years as an assistant, leading Bolwing Green to the biggest turnaround in the NCAA his first year as a head coach, his better than .800 winning percentage, an undefeated season and an undefeated career post-season record.

But please, tell us what we all know you are thinking Rolling Eyes


That's nice. But ask yourself how did Dawn Staley come to prominence? By being one of the greatest basketball players of all-time that's how. Not to mention she HAS proven herself to be a helluva coach. If you ask me Dawn has a leg up on Urban b/c she's done it on the court and on the sidelines. What kind of an athlete was Urban?


How many national championship winning coaches played at the level Staley has? I don't count many. What is the evidence that playing career actually translates to coaching success?


You fell for it. To answer your question, most of the athletes in say basketball that play at the highest levels don't get a chance to become head coaches at a major university like Florida like Meyer is b/c they are usually Black. These Black athletes while praised for their physical prowess are stereotypically seen as being intellectually inferior. So, I feel that until you see Blacks represented on the sidelines as head coaches (and ADs) like you see them represented on the football fields and basketball courts the jury will remain out whether one's playing career translates to coaching success.

I just want to see the Black Lawrence Frank or the Black Mike Leach of coaching. You know a Black coach that didn't even play college ball. You know a Black coach that didn't have damn near a hall of fame athletic career. Rolling Eyes


Who is Urban Meyer?


The football coach at Univ. of Florida.



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