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PostPosted: 12/05/06 12:09 am    ::: Hartford @ St. John's Reply Reply with quote

Another day, another loss. Looks like the 2006 Liberty were a good run-up for the 2006-07 Red Storm.

The band felt the need to play Christmas music. I hate them right now, although some of them are making themselves quite amusing by dancing to various musical interludes during the timeouts. Still, I don't need more Christmas music.

The cheerleaders have stopped doing their Thumper impression with their pom-poms during the national anthem, which is a relief, as I can now stop bursting out in giggles at the sight of little white poufs bouncing in time with the drumrolls.

Wow, Ikea Witt is awesome to watch. Knows how to shoot, knows how to drive, and has a nice burst of speed. Would not be surprised to see her in someone's training camp next spring. She royally abused the St. John's defenders assigned to cover her (for most of the night, it was our 'Bama girls, Joy and Angel, who were so painfully burned). Oh, and she was quick on the ball, too, with five steals. Damn, that girl really *is* good. I hadn't realized how many steals she had until I looked at the box. I was also impressed with Danielle Hood, and the one Hawk I was pleased to see have a not-bad game was Lisa Etienne. I may have deep-rooted issues with Hartford (it's a Rutgers thing), but they've got some talent there, and Rizzotti knows how to handle a team.

Much to my dismay, I have discovered that Nikki Jo Rotolo, who I enjoy watching play, has some serious issues with authority. There was one point in the game where Coach was screaming at her and she wasn't listening, at which point Coach yelled, "If you're not going to listen, you're going to sit down!" and sent in Charisse. I am minded of the breaking of the maverick colt in The Same River Twice. Charisse, unfortunately, wasn't very helpful; six turnovers, tentative on offense, and lost on defense (well, okay, most of them were lost on defense, but she was really bad). Allie… oy. She did hustle for a couple of loose balls, but she's still making a lot of bone-headed mistakes that really make her look "special". Nikki Jo, in addition to her "la la la I can't hear you!" moments, was taking some bad shots. She took a lot of good ones, too, that didn't go down, and some that did. She needs to shoot more often and quit playing silly buggers with the ballhandling. Joy had what might have been her best game of the season so far. She seems to be much more a second-half player; she takes a while to get warmed up, but when she does, she's hot- she had a quick run by herself. I like the way she plays- she's all about the hustle and the tips. All of her rebounds were offensive. She's also a leader, or at least good at keeping track of what she and her teammates are supposed to be doing. Angel needs to work on her hands; this was a really bad night for her, and let's face it, we can't afford really bad nights from anybody this season. Tiina kinda got stymied in the post by Delva and Kelley, who seem to be more familiar with this notion of playing inside the paint than she is, but she had a solid game. Prove me wrong about blonde Euros, woman! Monique was in full "Baby Shameka" mode; lots of nice shots and a solid offensive game coupled with some ugly defensive lapses and ballhandling that she should not have been doing- but then, it would have been ballhandling that Kia Wright should have been doing.

Why wasn't Kia doing it, you might ask? According to the game notes, she's reaggravated a sports hernia; the recap gives it as a muscle strain, but whatever the reason, she was in streets today, a long-sleeved black top and black slacks. Kelly was pretty in pink, Victoria was stylish in white, and Recee has earned the DeTrina White Memorial Fashion Award for "please get a new dress shirt, I shouldn't recognize the same one four games into the season!" There are way too many people in street clothes on the Red Storm bench. It makes me sad.

I don't want to harp on the fact that the refs were bad, but seriously? They were awful. The guys calling my school's homecoming game were better, and I go to a D-III in a crap conference. One rather egregious error happened during a set of free throws. Angel Tate was fouled, went to the line, and as is her wont, missed the first. Hartford called time (not sure why; how can you ice a cold shooter?) and when they broke the timeout, the refs tried to usher Monique McLean to the line. Rizzotti and her bench threw a FIT, which was understandable, since it was a foul in the act, and Angel was the one who had been shooting. Order was restored, but how do you mix up 5-11 #20 and 6-2 #45? Travels went uncalled, poor Joy got wrassled to the ground with no call, Kelley of the Hawks was almost growing roots in the lane, and the refs honestly had no control over the game. DEATH.

There were a few people in the building rooting for Hartford, but I know at least one of them to be a UConn fan who came because of Rizzotti. I hope there were at least some Hartford fans who actually care about the team and would still follow them if Rizzotti weren't the coach. That's what still bothers me about their fan base, and has been since the screw job in the 2005 tournament. How many of these people would care about the Hawks if their coach were Dana Wynne or Beth Record, or Goddess forbid, Ace Clement? Those players deserve better than people just in Husky love with their coach.

We also spotted some of the SJU men lounging about in the section behind the St. John's bench. Sadly, there was plenty of room to lounge. Attendance today and Saturday was dreadful. Come ON, New Yorkers, the tickets are seven bucks and the freshmen are pretty good, plus we've got Little Sister Christon here.



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PostPosted: 12/05/06 8:30 am    ::: We love the Hawks, and we love Jen :) Reply Reply with quote

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" I hope there were at least some Hartford fans who actually care about the team and would still follow them if Rizzotti weren't the coach. That's what still bothers me about their fan base, and has been since the screw job in the 2005 tournament. How many of these people would care about the Hawks if their coach were Dana Wynne or Beth Record, or Goddess forbid, Ace Clement? Those players deserve better than people just in Husky love with their coach.


To be fair, the Hartford Hawks have also become a pretty good team so I think that's why more people are getting in the groove. That's why I have season tickets. Smile

But what is so bad about people showing up because of Jen? Nothing. You know, Women's Basketball fans are always whining about who's not watching, who's not showing up and why this game doesn't get more attention, yet when teams do draw people somebody always has a gripe about why.

I don't care why people are trekking out to West Hartford to see the Hawks, as long as they are making the trip.



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PostPosted: 12/05/06 9:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd have to agree with chipper -- anything that gets people into the arena... as long as they stay. Sometimes it's the players... sometimes it's cause you love/respect/want to support the coach. And if they travel? even better.

Consider the name recognition of UT - and Pat Summitt. Wowza, if Jen can do that....

As always, love the report, Queenie. Soooo sorry about the friggin' injuries....



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PostPosted: 12/05/06 9:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'll also agree; that's what got me interested in UH. But last year's "dream run" kept me interested, not Jen.


Queenie



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PostPosted: 12/05/06 1:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

But how many of those people will *stay* interested when Rizzotti leaves? I'd rather see Hartford with a smaller but more sustainable fan base that grows organically from the strength of the program and the fans who bring in other fans than a larger fan base that would either see half its populace evaporate in smoke the second Rizzotti takes a new job or be permanently bound to hunting down former Huskies to coach the team in order to keep that fan base, and knowing that it's the coach the fans care about and not the team.

And if you got successfully through that second sentence, I salute you.

In any case, I won't pretend I'm objective about Hartford. I'm still bitter about the RU screw in 2005, and all the UConn fans who saw an excuse to boo Rutgers. It's hard for me to look at that team and not think of the guy who bitched me out at Gampel about how I wasn't showing conference loyalty when the UConn men's loss to UNC was announced... who then turned around and cheered against a BEast team. It's hard for me to look at Hartford and not remember the nasty side of the Connecticut fan base.



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PostPosted: 12/05/06 2:07 pm    ::: The Rutgers-Connecticut urination exercise Reply Reply with quote

I disagree with the contention that people don't care about this team. I see it in the stands at the ballgames. I hear it in the noise at the games. Yes, folks in Connecticut love their Jen. I became a big fan of hers when she played, and that was long before I moved up here. Seeing her in as head coach got me intrigued, but seeing how this team has evolved as made me a fan and seeing the work she put in to make it happen made me a fan, too.

But again, I ask is that so bad? Many programs have brought in a "name" to create a buzz. No sin in that, but ultimately, the team's the thing and Hartford has a good team.

On the matter of "ugly UConn fans"? Every team has them, but equate Hartford's success with those incident you speak of, is rather unfair.
UConn-Rutgers is a rivalry, and unfortunately (in my mind) its not friendly.



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