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stever
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Posted: 02/01/06 9:17 pm ::: Epiphany Prince scores 113! |
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/more/02/01/prince.113/index.html
"Epiphany Prince, a 5-foot-9 senior, shattered the all-time national high school girls basketball scoring record Wednesday with an incredible 113 points as Manhattan's Murry Bergtraum routed Louis Brandeis 137-32.
The previous record of 105 points was set by Cheryl Miller of Riverside Poly in 1982. Lisa Leslie also topped the century mark with 101 for Inglewood Morningside in 1990. Both schools are in Southern California." |
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BBallFanCT729
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 2666 Location: UConn Territory
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Posted: 02/01/06 9:19 pm ::: |
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Hmm...good for her, but was it really necessary, seeing as Murry Bergtraum won by 105 points? Seems to be very disrespectful to the opposition.
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bballfan2005
Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 25315 Location: Somewhere here and there
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sambista
Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 16951 Location: way station of life
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Posted: 02/01/06 9:26 pm ::: |
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i blame kobe for this.
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boilerjay
Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 723 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: 02/01/06 9:36 pm ::: |
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sebibb wrote: |
i blame kobe for this. |
I blame the coach...obviously a disrepectful @ss.
There's a huge difference between Kobe's 81 and EP's 113. The Lakers needed him to score that much to win. Prince and her coach were just rubbing it in their opponents face.
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Queenie
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18032 Location: Queens
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Posted: 02/01/06 9:42 pm ::: |
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I just looked at their schedule at PSAL.org. It's possible it was senior night. It's their next to last home game. That's the same mechanism that got LL her 101 in high school- keep feeding the senior and let her score.
I could be talking out my ass here, but I thought I'd put that on the table.
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Keegan
Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 6861 Location: The Cathedral of Snark
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Posted: 02/01/06 9:44 pm ::: |
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I don't really have a problem with her doing it. It's not nice to be on the receiving end but meh, it's just sport and you'll win some by a lot and lose some by a lot. Use it as motivation to get better.
She'll be great for the pros if she can keep it together.
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bballfan2005
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sambista
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Posted: 02/01/06 9:46 pm ::: |
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it was a joke, b-jay.
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Slovydal
Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 12205 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: 02/01/06 9:49 pm ::: |
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Queenie wrote: |
I just looked at their schedule at PSAL.org. It's possible it was senior night. It's their next to last home game. That's the same mechanism that got LL her 101 in high school- keep feeding the senior and let her score.
I could be talking out my ass here, but I thought I'd put that on the table. |
L.L.-L. did that in one half (the other team wouldn't come out for the second half.)
Congratulations Epiphany!
What the heck - let the kid have her night.
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mikey87
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hooper1
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Posted: 02/02/06 2:01 am ::: |
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I thought the same thing! Shows NO class at all!
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RedEqualsLuck
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Posted: 02/02/06 2:28 am ::: |
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coming home was trying to do the maths... 113 points in 32 minutes. Just think of what it takes to get that many possessions.
I get this image of a dad playing an 11 year old one on one and kickin' his a$$. What, exactly, is the point?
People get on Geno, Pat and Gail fro running up scores.. at least they use zillions of people and distribute the minutes.
Piss poor coaching. It would have been cool if Epih took herself outta the game and/or gave the ball to the other fine guard she has as a teammate...
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sambista
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Posted: 02/02/06 8:10 am ::: |
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this was actually reported in the 7 o'clock news reading on the "today" show. they showed a still photo of prince, said that lebron james called her feat "amazing." then matt lauer joked that the coach of the losing team probably said, "okay, now, guys, we have just a few things we need to work on . . ." then katie couric said, "we should have her on the show since she's a local girl . . . she's here in new york, right?"
so two things: 1) yeah, they reported it and actually chatted about it! and 2) i'm guessing they'll have her on tomorrow morning, if ever. by monday, it'll be old news, so keep your eyes peeled.
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timber
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 1024 Location: look behind you
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Posted: 02/02/06 8:18 am ::: |
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I was at the game which I assume none of you complaining were.
It's not Piph or Grezinsky's fault. It's the PSAL's. Teams are not matched up correctly which is why there was a big meeting last week on the boys side to form a Super Division to prevent Lincoln, Grady, etc. from doing what Bergtraum did. All of the powerhouses would be in the SAME league. The girls are contemplating it as well.
In order to fully grasp the situation, you'd have to understand the level of competition. It was like the Harlem Globetrotters vs. the Washington Generals. There is only one team in Bergtraum's division that should even be playing with them: Manhattan Center. But there are 7 teams in the division.
Grezinsky knows he's screwed either way. The people come to see Piph. The opposing players come to see Piph.
If he wants to prevent a lopsided score, to be honest, Piph shouldn't even suit up against teams like Brandeis. You can't help a blowout if she plays against almost any team in the City.
So should she only play against CTK, Manhattan Center, St. Michaels, Francis Lewis, and a handful of other teams? Is that fair to her? Should she be concerned because she's a woman among girls?
If Grezinsky took her out when the game was out of hand, seriously, she'd have played 3 minutes. She'd have played 3 minutes in every game this year.
So when she's got 70 and the crowd hyped, do you take her out? When she has 80? When she's on her way to breaking the record? When she's on track to break Telfair's all time total career scoring record? When everyone in the gym knows she's on pace to do it and has wondered on many other occassions just how much she could score if she was left in the game?
Once people realized Piph was on a roll, they just went with it for all of the reasons above.
Didn't look to me like Vera Springer (Brandeis' coach) had a problem with it during the game. If she did, she should have and could have easily done like other coaches have done in other PSAL games and called the lead official over and told him to stop the game. She could have called the commissioner during halftime. She could have simply walked off the court. She could have spoken to Grezinsky in a meeting with the officials. It's all been done before in this situation and the message was clear once those steps were taken. She could have stood up for her players during the game instead of after it.
Take a gander at some of Bergtraum's other games this year if you get a chance.
This is the PSAL. If Brandeis really felt like Bergtraum was doing anything out of the ordinary, no one would have thought anything of it if Piph would have been clotheslined and laid out by halftime. Instead of complaining, they should have found some heart and pride.
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BCBG25
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dtsnms
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Posted: 02/02/06 9:40 am ::: |
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I hear you Timber, but this is H.S. ball. She didn't need to play the 2nd half in my opinion.
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timber
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Posted: 02/02/06 9:50 am ::: |
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dtsnms wrote: |
I hear you Timber, but this is H.S. ball. She didn't need to play the 2nd half in my opinion. |
Using that logic, she'd never play. She had a chance to make history and took advantage. The PSAL is who everyone should be outraged at.
Look at it from the other side. Springer's been coaching 90 million years. She knew what her options were.
All she had to do was call the ref over. If that didn't work, call Virginia Matthews, the Commish whose cell she should have, and tell her to do something about it. Hell, I'd have given her the number if I thought she was going to show some heart on behalf of her players.
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Hughsterg
Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 76 Location: Near some rivers in Minnesota
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Posted: 02/02/06 10:48 am ::: A few questions |
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What kind of defense did the winning team use during the game (did they press the whole game?)
How many minutes did Prince play?
How many girls are on the team?
I reserve judgement until those questions are answered.
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boilerjay
Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 723 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: 02/02/06 10:50 am ::: |
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timber wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
I hear you Timber, but this is H.S. ball. She didn't need to play the 2nd half in my opinion. |
Using that logic, she'd never play. |
Amber Harris' coach held her out of two games this season because her opponent was so weak.
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pilight
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Posted: 02/02/06 10:52 am ::: |
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boilerjay wrote: |
timber wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
I hear you Timber, but this is H.S. ball. She didn't need to play the 2nd half in my opinion. |
Using that logic, she'd never play. |
Amber Harris' coach held her out of two games this season because her opponent was so weak. |
I'd be more insulted by that than by her scoring 100+ points on my team.
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boilerjay
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Posted: 02/02/06 10:55 am ::: |
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Actually, it was last season.
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umbeta1455
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Posted: 02/02/06 10:58 am ::: |
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Does she have any teammates who are goign to be playign division 1 ball
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dtsnms
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harlem_basketball
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Posted: 02/02/06 11:34 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
boilerjay wrote: |
timber wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
I hear you Timber, but this is H.S. ball. She didn't need to play the 2nd half in my opinion. |
Using that logic, she'd never play. |
Amber Harris' coach held her out of two games this season because her opponent was so weak. |
I'd be more insulted by that than by her scoring 100+ points on my team. |
Exactly.
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