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Richyyy
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History suggests that no one values Dallas Wings players more highly than Greg Bibb values his own Dallas Wings players. So I think the most likely course of events is that they end up paying Mabrey and McCowan, whether through their own negotiations or matching offer sheets. Might well require going down to an 11-player roster - either cut Dickey, do something with Collier, get Alarie to sign-off on not playing again, whatever - but then the money's workable whatever the offers might be. Of course then they basically can't do anything in free agency, but that's the price.
An Allisha Gray deal could change the maths significantly in multiple areas, of course. |
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J-Spoon
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I agree the best move for Dallas might seem boring but they can come right out of the gate and offer Mabrey and McCowan 180k each I would definitely start there and if I have to cut Dickey or Collier to up the ante I would
Building a team around Mabrey, Ogunbowale and McCowan makes sense, they are all reaching their prime at the same time so Dallas probably has a 3-5 year window with them and if Sabally oe Kuier reach their potential Dallas is in a really good spot.
If not come 24 they will have a lot more cap freed up to bring in that vet to get them over the top or another 27/8 year old ready to commit to 3 the window.
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J-Spoon
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| Posted: 01/03/23 6:41 pm ::: |
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I agree the best move for Dallas might seem boring but they can come right out of the gate and offer Mabrey and McCowan 180k each I would definitely start there and if I have to cut Dickey or Collier to up the ante I would
Building a team around Mabrey, Ogunbowale and McCowan makes sense, they are all reaching their prime at the same time so Dallas probably has a 3-5 year window with them and if Sabally oe Kuier reach their potential Dallas is in a really good spot.
If not come 24 they will have a lot more cap freed up to bring in that vet to get them over the top or another 27/8 year old ready to commit to 3 the window. |
How many times have we been here already ? Time to start making investment's Bibby. |
No doubt
But how do you feel about the keeping Mabrey and McCowan and building around them and Ogunbowale?
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| Posted: 01/03/23 11:11 pm ::: |
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| Pay McCowan...End of story . |
Do you think Mabrey walks? |
No , but if we cannot afford her she will take the money elsewhere. McCowan is priority , guards come a dime a dozen in these college drafts. Do i trust Harris or Burton to replace what mabrey brings ? Not a chance....... |
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DFWub2018
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| Posted: 01/03/23 11:16 pm ::: |
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History suggests that no one values Dallas Wings players more highly than Greg Bibb values his own Dallas Wings players. So I think the most likely course of events is that they end up paying Mabrey and McCowan, whether through their own negotiations or matching offer sheets. Might well require going down to an 11-player roster - either cut Dickey, do something with Collier, get Alarie to sign-off on not playing again, whatever - but then the money's workable whatever the offers might be. Of course then they basically can't do anything in free agency, but that's the price.
An Allisha Gray deal could change the maths significantly in multiple areas, of course. |
I could be wrong but I think the situation in Dallas is the most interesting one in the W this coming free agency...maybe second to Seattle but definitely top 3!!!
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J-Spoon
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| Posted: 01/03/23 11:37 pm ::: |
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| Legitimate question to Dallas fans what are the moves you would like to see your team make?
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| Posted: 01/04/23 2:20 am ::: |
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| Richyyy wrote: |
History suggests that no one values Dallas Wings players more highly than Greg Bibb values his own Dallas Wings players. So I think the most likely course of events is that they end up paying Mabrey and McCowan, whether through their own negotiations or matching offer sheets. Might well require going down to an 11-player roster - either cut Dickey, do something with Collier, get Alarie to sign-off on not playing again, whatever - but then the money's workable whatever the offers might be. Of course then they basically can't do anything in free agency, but that's the price.
An Allisha Gray deal could change the maths significantly in multiple areas, of course. |
I could be wrong but I think the situation in Dallas is the most interesting one in the W this coming free agency...maybe second to Seattle but definitely top 3!!! |
Every W fan is asking one question this free agency season. Where is Stewart going?🧐
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| Legitimate question to Dallas fans what are the moves you would like to see your team make? |
I dont want to make this a huge topic , because last year we made progress with our first playoff win . So Dallas's direction should continue to trend upward. I believe fans of the league are so use to the Wings being in limbo that this is the first offseason where we are pretty solid. Resign McCowan match any offer for mabrey and run it back again. No PP's needed this offseason no influx of 3 to 5 rookie's joining the team . We are good . Now Indiana , Minnesota , Seattle , LA have bigger questions marks on their future in my opinion than dallas right now.
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| Posted: 01/04/23 4:21 pm ::: |
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History suggests that no one values Dallas Wings players more highly than Greg Bibb values his own Dallas Wings players. So I think the most likely course of events is that they end up paying Mabrey and McCowan, whether through their own negotiations or matching offer sheets. Might well require going down to an 11-player roster - either cut Dickey, do something with Collier, get Alarie to sign-off on not playing again, whatever - but then the money's workable whatever the offers might be. Of course then they basically can't do anything in free agency, but that's the price.
An Allisha Gray deal could change the maths significantly in multiple areas, of course. |
I could be wrong but I think the situation in Dallas is the most interesting one in the W this coming free agency...maybe second to Seattle but definitely top 3!!! |
Every W fan is asking one question this free agency season. Where is Stewart going?🧐 |
I agree that's why I put us at #2.
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| Posted: 01/04/23 4:24 pm ::: |
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| Legitimate question to Dallas fans what are the moves you would like to see your team make? |
Replace Jasmine Dickey with one of: Brittney Sykes, Nia Coffee or Maddy Siegrist.
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J-Spoon
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| Posted: 01/04/23 8:09 pm ::: |
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| Legitimate question to Dallas fans what are the moves you would like to see your team make? |
Replace Jasmine Dickey with one of: Brittney Sykes, Nia Coffee or Maddy Siegrist. |
Yes I agree Sykes or Coffey would be a nice addition for the Wings
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| Posted: 01/05/23 12:06 pm ::: |
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| Legitimate question to Dallas fans what are the moves you would like to see your team make? |
Replace Jasmine Dickey with one of: Brittney Sykes, Nia Coffee or Maddy Siegrist. |
Yes I agree Sykes or Coffey would be a nice addition for the Wings |
Sykes or Horston would be Ideal. Horston can play 1-3 and Thornton is not getting any younger. With AG just about all the way out the door we need back up options at SF unless we plan on Using Satou at the 3 Awak at PF and McCowan at C.
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| Posted: 01/05/23 2:32 pm ::: |
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| With AG just about all the way out the door |
so Gray still wants out of Dallas even despite the coaching change – good to know
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| With AG just about all the way out the door |
so Gray still wants out of Dallas even despite the coaching change – good to know |
Not in stone , but i have not heard of anything changing with her with the coaching change so im unsure. Most likely Bibb makes the decision if a player does not want to be here they wont . That's one thing i respect about the guy. Now if she has a change of heart and chooses to stay AMEN. If not get a lottery pick or a seasoned vet for her. **Cough Cough Nneka , Howard (If Stewie Goes to NY) .
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| Posted: 01/05/23 2:48 pm ::: |
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| and it probably goes without saying that if Mabrey and/or McCowan were to want out of Dallas, they wouldn’t be returning to the Wings either no matter how much $ they’d get by returning
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| Posted: 01/06/23 9:23 am ::: |
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| Legitimate question to Dallas fans what are the moves you would like to see your team make? |
Replace Jasmine Dickey with one of: Brittney Sykes, Nia Coffee or Maddy Siegrist. |
Yes I agree Sykes or Coffey would be a nice addition for the Wings |
I sent Sykes the top reasons she should consider Dallas this season but she ignored me 😒😒😒
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| Posted: 01/06/23 9:30 am ::: |
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| Legitimate question to Dallas fans what are the moves you would like to see your team make? |
Replace Jasmine Dickey with one of: Brittney Sykes, Nia Coffee or Maddy Siegrist. |
Yes I agree Sykes or Coffey would be a nice addition for the Wings |
Sykes or Horston would be Ideal. Horston can play 1-3 and Thornton is not getting any younger. With AG just about all the way out the door we need back up options at SF unless we plan on Using Satou at the 3 Awak at PF and McCowan at C. |
I haven't watched much of Horston but I will today.
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| Posted: 01/06/23 9:40 am ::: |
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| and it probably goes without saying that if Mabrey and/or McCowan were to want out of Dallas, they wouldn’t be returning to the Wings either no matter how much $ they’d get by returning |
I can't speak for Mabrey but Mccowan has consistently raved about her appreciation for being in Dallas and for reasons both personal & professional....plus she likes hanging out with Arike in Deep Ellum 😂😂😂
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