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So MINN has to win at CONN and hope that one of PHX or NY loses.
ATL needs to beat NY and hope that one of MINN or PHX loses.
PHX could still be in with a loss if MINN loses.
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Phoenix is in if Minnesota loses
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| Posted: 08/14/22 1:47 pm ::: |
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| craigmont wrote: |
So MINN has to win at CONN and hope that one of PHX or NY loses.
ATL needs to beat NY and hope that one of MINN or PHX loses.
PHX could still be in with a loss if MINN loses.
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I think so.
Kind of wild since it seemed like Minnesota had the edge going into the final two games and now they have the least viable path forward.
I think Phoenix has the easiest route?
The real toss up will be ATL and NY.
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| Posted: 08/14/22 2:02 pm ::: |
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| Curt Miller coached that fourth quarter like he had something on the spread.
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| Posted: 08/14/22 2:03 pm ::: |
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| What's weird is that NY is still in with a loss if PHX wins, but PHX doesn't need to win now that MINN has lost.
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| Posted: 08/14/22 2:11 pm ::: |
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| Curt Miller coached that fourth quarter like he had something on the spread. |
Truly. If he wanted to win, he shouldn't have given the bench extended run at the start of the fourth quarter. Instead he let the lead dwindle to 6 before bringing the starters back.
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| Posted: 08/14/22 2:21 pm ::: |
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I'm confused.... If after Minnesota lost, that means Phoenix is in -- it looks like the wnba web page has not been updated to reflect that? Shouldn't there be a little "x" after Phoenix in the standings with that loss?
https://www.wnba.com/standings/#?season=2022
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| Posted: 08/14/22 2:28 pm ::: |
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I'm confused.... If after Minnesota lost, that means Phoenix is in -- it looks like the wnba web page has not been updated to reflect that? Shouldn't there be a little "x" after Phoenix in the standings with that loss?
https://www.wnba.com/standings/#?season=2022 |
ESPN has updated. I don't know what WNBA.com is on.
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| Posted: 08/14/22 2:37 pm ::: |
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WNBA twitter just mentioned it finally.
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| Posted: 08/14/22 2:49 pm ::: |
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| So if NYL lose to Atlanta, then what? Who has the tiebreaker?
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| Posted: 08/14/22 2:49 pm ::: |
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| Silky Johnson wrote: |
| Curt Miller coached that fourth quarter like he had something on the spread. |
Kind of good practice for the playoffs to hold onto a lead and close out a game against a team with motivation.
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| Posted: 08/14/22 2:59 pm ::: |
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| So if NYL lose to Atlanta, then what? Who has the tiebreaker? |
Even if Atlanta wins, they need Chicago to win as well in order to make the playoffs.
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| Posted: 08/14/22 3:48 pm ::: |
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| Silky Johnson wrote: |
| Curt Miller coached that fourth quarter like he had something on the spread. |
Kind of good practice for the playoffs to hold onto a lead and close out a game against a team with motivation. |
His career playoff record suggests that it might not be working: 1-3 all-time in playoff games decided by 5 points or less, 3-5 in playoff series, overall. And he's more or less had the same core (Ghidorah, AT, Brionna Jones, Williams + 2 years of Bonner and Hiedeman) the whole time.
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| Posted: 08/16/22 5:03 pm ::: |
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| I guess I'm not sure what his issue is with the playoff format. Best of 3 was how it was in the playoffs before the finals for years before they changed it in 2016. It's better than the 1 and done they had been doing the previous years. |
His issue is that the "winner-take-all" game should be on the court of the team with the better record, an issue that I agree with. Even when the Best-of-Three series was 1-2, the WTA game was on the higher seed's court. And you can say, "Well, if you don't want to play the deciding game on the lower seed's court, just win the first two," but that's some Captain Easystance tautological nonsense.
A WTA game should be on the higher seed's court, whether it's a best-of-seven, best-of-five, best-of-three, or a best-of-one.
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| Posted: 08/16/22 5:40 pm ::: |
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| I guess I'm not sure what his issue is with the playoff format. Best of 3 was how it was in the playoffs before the finals for years before they changed it in 2016. It's better than the 1 and done they had been doing the previous years. |
His issue is that the "winner-take-all" game should be on the court of the team with the better record, an issue that I agree with. Even when the Best-of-Three series was 1-2, the WTA game was on the higher seed's court. And you can say, "Well, if you don't want to play the deciding game on the lower seed's court, just win the first two," but that's some Captain Easystance tautological nonsense.
A WTA game should be on the higher seed's court, whether it's a best-of-seven, best-of-five, best-of-three, or a best-of-one. |
Right. But this is a business decision for the league. Playoff games have notoriously bad attendance, often get bumped to different arenas and the back and for travel costs.
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| Posted: 08/16/22 5:41 pm ::: |
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People bitched about the 1-2 format as well, but to me that's better than 2-1. Both teams would be guaranteed a home date, the higher seed gets to host the decider if it's needed, and you might get a more competitive series because the lower seed has more of a chance to win one of the first two games. Presumably they didn't do that because 2-1 has the chance to be cheaper due to the series potentially being over before anyone has to leave the initial host city. And maybe because 2-1 was meant to favour the higher seed (even if I don't really think it does).
1-1-1, especially with how they've spaced the games out a bit this year, seems entirely plausible to me, even without the matchups being conference-based. But obviously does add some expense. |
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| Posted: 08/16/22 6:08 pm ::: |
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| Right. But this is a business decision for the league. Playoff games have notoriously bad attendance, often get bumped to different arenas and the back and for travel costs. |
Everything you just said is one hundred percent true and, with all due respect (pardon my French), has fuck all to do with whether or not James Wade has a legitimate complaint about the playoff format.
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| Posted: 08/16/22 6:13 pm ::: |
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People complained about the 1-1-1 as well.
Historically the 1-2 was better for the higher seed than the 1-1-1 but less likely to end in a sweep for either team.
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| Posted: 08/16/22 6:20 pm ::: |
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| Right. But this is a business decision for the league. Playoff games have notoriously bad attendance, often get bumped to different arenas and the back and for travel costs. |
Everything you just said is one hundred percent true and, with all due respect (pardon my French), has fuck all to do with whether or not James Wade has a legitimate complaint about the playoff format. |
I guess my point is that, with all due respect to James Wade, his complaint is irrelevant.
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| Posted: 08/16/22 6:33 pm ::: |
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| Higher seeds, win your two games at home and advance. True justice and fairness will never happen under our current system. Imperfection rules.
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