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Joey Nations
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 Posted: 01/17/06 4:34 pm ::: How is it a mess? |
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Last time I checked having two ball handlers on the court at the same time wasn't a bad thing.
I assume the starting line up next year to be Toliver, Doron, Newman/Coleman, Langhorne, Perry/Harper.
When Gatewood becomes eligible then we will see if she starts right away. But Toliver can also play the two to give Doron a breather.
The only one I see losing out in all this is Marrone, but she's still a pure shooter and that's not a bad thing to have.
Doron will be done next spring and then Toliver and Gatewood can start at the same time.
Gail doesn't seem to have an issue with Harding, Foley, Smith, Waner and Waner._________________ "People kept saying why are you looking at Maryland, why are you even talking to them? Well, look at us now!" - Crystal Langhorne, NCAA Champion
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| Posted: 01/17/06 8:56 pm ::: |
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| Very nice/appropriate avatar RedEqualsLuck. Thanks.
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| Posted: 01/17/06 9:19 pm ::: |
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A. Maryland did start three guards last year.
B. You never know if someone will get injured, so depth is good.
C. Why do people call Parker CP3?
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| Posted: 01/18/06 8:33 am ::: |
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| styxfan22 wrote: |
A. Maryland did start three guards last year.
B. You never know if someone will get injured, so depth is good.
C. Why do people call Parker CP3? |
C = Candace
P = Parker
3 = Her uniform number
= CP3
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styxfan22
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| Posted: 01/18/06 8:53 am ::: |
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| ripleydc wrote: |
| styxfan22 wrote: |
A. Maryland did start three guards last year.
B. You never know if someone will get injured, so depth is good.
C. Why do people call Parker CP3? |
C = Candace
P = Parker
3 = Her uniform number
= CP3 |
Thanks, ripleydc.
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| Posted: 01/18/06 11:21 pm ::: |
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| The cutie trifecta is 1-3-5: Spencer, Parker, Zolman.
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GlennMacGrady
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| Posted: 01/19/06 12:00 am ::: |
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| styxfan22 wrote: |
| ripleydc wrote: |
| styxfan22 wrote: |
A. Maryland did start three guards last year.
B. You never know if someone will get injured, so depth is good.
C. Why do people call Parker CP3? |
C = Candace
P = Parker
3 = Her uniform number
= CP3 |
Thanks, ripleydc. |
Oklahoma's monster-stats freshman, Courtney Paris, is also being called CP3.
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| Posted: 01/19/06 12:38 am ::: |
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| Oklahoma's monster-stats freshman, Courtney Paris, is also being called CP3. |
Not really. She's referred to most as "CP" to distinguish her from Parker. "CP3" has a nice flashy ring to it, which can also be said for Parker's game.
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| Posted: 01/19/06 10:08 pm ::: |
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| I hope Nicky Anosike doesn't see that post, str8!
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themoseo
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| Posted: 01/21/06 1:32 pm ::: |
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| whoever said frese has a mess on her hands is right. gatewood is no ordinary transfer. anyone who thinks she will come off the bench happily at maryland, or split time contentedly with toliver, doron and kalika france, simply doesn't know anything about her, or her parents, or her history.
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bballfan2005
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| Posted: 01/21/06 1:57 pm ::: |
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7 guards or guard/forward players:
G Wiley-Gatewood (starter); 2008
G Doron (starter); 2007
G Toliver; 2009
G Newman; 2008
G/F Coleman (starter); 2009
G France; 2008
G Marrone; 2009
All nice players to have, but who starts and who comes off the bench next season? Newman will probably be the one who ends up back on the bench after starting this season (and doing a good job in her starting role). Sa'de Wiley-Gatewood HAS to start and must dominate time at the point to remain satisfied. Toliver is too talented to have to play behind Wiley-Gatewood, as I've been more impressed with Kristi than Sa'de. Doron and Coleman as starters are givens. France and Newman will battle for back-up minutes next season and the season afterward. Marrone will more than likely not play much at all.
This *could* work provided Sa'de is happy.
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Joey Nations
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| Posted: 01/21/06 3:01 pm ::: I disagree themoseo |
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Wiley-Gatewood didn't start at all last year and started 8 of 9 this year and still wasn't happy. So I don't think starting or not starting is going to affect her. Plus, she comes in midyear, practice is one thing, but games are a different atmosphere. Brenda's a smart coach she's not going to interupt chemistry. The team was doing well this year when Toliver was out so Brenda wasn't quick to reinsert her into the starting line up. Just because she is a star doesn't guarantee her a starting spot. Shay rode the bench for most of the game last night and she's one of our stars.
An old coach once said it's not who starts the game it's who finishes.
bballfan2005 -- The two affected the most are France and Marrone. Marrone would have probably seen extended minutes at the 1 or 2 next year, but now that will probably last until December. France is coming off back to back injury riddled seasons to her knees so who knows how effective she can be.
The question is will Toliver, Gatewood, Newman and Coleman being able to control their egos for 4 months? Once Doron is gone, things should be alleviated. Winning changes things especially if a NC is in sight,_________________ "People kept saying why are you looking at Maryland, why are you even talking to them? Well, look at us now!" - Crystal Langhorne, NCAA Champion
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| Posted: 01/21/06 5:21 pm ::: |
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| It'll be interesting to see how Frese manages the egos over the next couple of seasons. Lots of former McDonald's HS AAs at the guard position. They could be thinking of building stats/résumés for pro hoops (as we all know that's on Wiley-Gatewood's mind).
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| Posted: 01/21/06 5:42 pm ::: |
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| SWG has endured an unfortunate situation but I'm willing to give her a chance and hope that everything works out for her.
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| Posted: 01/21/06 5:45 pm ::: |
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| Look what she did with Doran last night, she was not up to par, she keep her on thr bench. Think if Gatewood is looking to play her way and not Brend's way she will sit too. The way she is coaching this year and the depth she will have next year at the guard spot i think she will have no problem sitting Gatewood , or anyone who is not playinf team ball. Maryland will be very deep next year and year after that, so if every one buy's in to the team come's first ,they should be one hach of a team and maybe they get to the big dance? Any thought's on that ballfan 2005?
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themoseo
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| Posted: 01/21/06 5:48 pm ::: |
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| The trouble is, there's going to be a sixth guard at Maryland that Frese needs to keep happy, by the name of Jerry Gatewood. No joke. Might as well put him on the roster, that's how much of a factor he will be.
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themoseo
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| Posted: 01/21/06 5:53 pm ::: |
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| If Frese benches SWG, she will leave. It's that simple.
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Joey Nations
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| Posted: 01/21/06 6:03 pm ::: |
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She can't leave anymore. By the time she sits out another year, she would have half a season left._________________ "People kept saying why are you looking at Maryland, why are you even talking to them? Well, look at us now!" - Crystal Langhorne, NCAA Champion
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| Posted: 01/21/06 6:03 pm ::: |
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| Look what she did with Doran last night, she was not up to par, she keep her on thr bench. Think if Gatewood is looking to play her way and not Brend's way she will sit too. The way she is coaching this year and the depth she will have next year at the guard spot i think she will have no problem sitting Gatewood , or anyone who is not playinf team ball. Maryland will be very deep next year and year after that, so if every one buy's in to the team come's first ,they should be one hach of a team and maybe they get to the big dance? Any thought's on that ballfan 2005? |
I think Maryland's perimeter depth is something do be envied. Most teams would love to have that much talent on the perimeter. They've got the talent to get to the Final Four, but does Brenda Frese have the right rotations?
With the players Maryland has right now, it'd be hard not to bench Wiley-Gatewood because they're talented enough without her. However, Jerry Gatewood isn't going to go for that. He pulled Sa'de out of Tennessee because she lost her starting job, a job that was hers alone to lose. Averaging 1.2 assists (and that's generous) and 0.9 assists-per-turnover isn't going to get the job done anywhere, let along Tennessee. I simply don't see how one can't average at least 8 assists per game at Tennessee (as a TRUE point guard) playing with the likes of Zolman and Parker, but I digress. Honestly, I don't think she should start at Maryland right away; rather, she should earn a starting role if she wants one. You also can't bench Toliver because (1) she's too talented and (2) she came to Maryland with the expectations of receiving that starting point guard role.
O/T: If Shay has a bad game v. Virginia Tech on Monday, I'm all for benching Doron in favor of Kristi Toliver. Newman and Coleman have been solid the past couple of games along with Toliver. That perimeter line-up should work well for Maryland.
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| Posted: 01/21/06 6:06 pm ::: |
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| She can't leave anymore. By the time she sits out another year, she would have half a season left. |
Hopefully she'll check her ego at the door, stay, play well, and receive her degree. If not, she's got other options. She can play professionally overseas for a season (2007-08 ) and will still be eligible for the 2008 WNBA Draft. She'll be 22 in 2007.
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| Posted: 01/21/06 6:14 pm ::: |
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| Do you think for a second that any coach would listen to a parent? I think coach Frese has nothing to lose here, she has good depth, if Mr Gatewood is not happy and she goes, it only hurt's the kid, why would he think she should start on a new team and like anyone lese she must EARN that right with hard work at pratice and if it ain't broke why fix it, look's like the coach goes with what's working and right now everything seem's to be working .. For the life of me i could never understand if she gave up her college time just because she did not start,thats so selfish ,??
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| Posted: 01/21/06 6:23 pm ::: |
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| She can play professionally overseas for a season (2007-08 ) |
Nobody really wants a player without decent college experience and 2 seasons at 2 colleges wouldn't qualify as "decent". Schuye LaRue left Virginia early and tried her hand at Europe and she flopped badly. European teams want their imports to contribute immediately and I doubt SWG could do that. |
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