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zune69
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| It's easy to call staley predictable after Mitchell misses the last shot.Tiffany was 5-10 fg up to that point.If she called the play for coates,who was 0-5 at the ft line and had the same result,some of you would have called it a predictable play call.If she ran the play for Wilson and she missed the shot,some of you would complain that ND knows Wilson is a left handed dominate player.so that was also a predictable play call.Plain and simple.usc lost this game at the free throw line.
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joetro
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| Posted: 04/05/15 7:49 pm ::: |
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| Cable is a RS senior so has another year. Meanwhile, SC loses several people and recruiting seems to have taken a dip. This was their year.
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RP
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| Posted: 04/05/15 7:55 pm ::: |
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| Mitchell was not able to turn the corner like she normally is and that blew the play up. Hardly anything Staley should have expected.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 7:59 pm ::: |
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| No seniors on ND right? |
Cable is the only senior for ND |
Maddie is a senior academically, but redshirted her freshman year. She can come back if she wants to.
There are two seniors that didn't play tonight, Whitney Holloway and Markisha Wright.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:01 pm ::: |
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| Cable is a RS senior so has another year. Meanwhile, SC loses several people and recruiting seems to have taken a dip. This was their year. |
They recruited within South Carolina heavily to get where they are. That well is dry and they needed a statement game to attract recruits, to complete with traditional periennal programs for the elite recruits. This loss really hurt South Caroina as far as recruiting outside of SC.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:07 pm ::: |
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| Welch had nothing to hang her head about. She carried this team on her shoulders all year.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:09 pm ::: |
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No seniors on ND right? At least in the starting lineup? If so it showed. Loyd's decision-making down the stretch left something to be desired, but it's a good learning experience for pressure situations.
I think her senior year will really help her polish her game. She has lots of things you can't teach in terms of handle, seeing the floor and the obvious athleticism. But she needs more strength and her game needs more polish. But in 15 months she should be pro-ready. I'm not sure if I think she is going to be a franchise WNBA player or a very good one. But there's plenty of time for her to improve on what is already a significant amount of ability. Plus that speed that we rarely get to see in a college game will be a huge asset in the pro game. She's very fast. |
55 of ND's 66 points came form 3 players, and one of them was out of the game at the end. Loyd didn't make bad decisions, there were no decisions to be made late because no one else wanted to shoot.
IMO Loyd is pro-ready right now.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:11 pm ::: |
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| Oldfandepot2 wrote: |
| joetro wrote: |
| Cable is a RS senior so has another year. Meanwhile, SC loses several people and recruiting seems to have taken a dip. This was their year. |
They recruited within South Carolina heavily to get where they are. That well is dry and they needed a statement game to attract recruits, to complete with traditional periennal programs for the elite recruits. This loss really South Caroina hurt as far as recruiting outside of SC. |
I don't see how making a FF can be anything but a recruiting plus.
If anything guards avoid the SEC. It's a physical, in the paint game.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:17 pm ::: |
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| Cable accidently in the right place at the right time. Notre Dame got lucky. |
Actually it's not "luck" at all. Cable has made that same play getting a short shot at the rim and turning and scoring on it several times this year. She watches and sees the shot is short and goes and gets the ball while the opponent is standing around. It's smart play and it's hustle. "Luck' has nothing to do with it.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:22 pm ::: |
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In retrospect it was somewhat predictable. SCar's superior size and depth in the post nearly won them the game and in the end their guard play lost it.
That's been their strength and their weakness all year.
The absence of any discernable designed play on that last possession other than "get the ball Tiffany and go win the game for us" was somewhat shocking.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:28 pm ::: |
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| Cable accidently in the right place at the right time. Notre Dame got lucky. |
Actually it's not "luck" at all. Cable has made that same play getting a short shot at the rim and turning and scoring on it several times this year. She watches and sees the shot is short and goes and gets the ball while the opponent is standing around. It's smart play and it's hustle. "Luck' has nothing to do with it. |
Give it up, Art. It was a prayer.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:30 pm ::: |
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| Cable is a RS senior so has another year. Meanwhile, SC loses several people and recruiting seems to have taken a dip. This was their year. |
They lose Welch, Gaines and Ibiam. Certainly big losses, but they still have Mitchell, and we would assume Wilson will make the big jump from being a freshman to a sophomore. Wilson and Mitchell may split votes for SEC POY. Coates will also get to start (she's been better than Ibiam for a while now). And they do have some talented freshman that could improve (Cuevas, White), so there is still enough talent to be a Top 5 team. In fact, if Wilson improves and is integrated more into their offense, they could be just as good. However, both ND and UConn will be just as good.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:30 pm ::: |
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| SC made only 7 of 16 FT's. Inexcusable.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:33 pm ::: |
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| summertime blues wrote: |
| Welch had nothing to hang her head about. She carried this team on her shoulders all year. |
She certainly doesn't have anything to hang her head about. She has been fantastic all year. She plays so hard all the time and I really felt for her because it was her last game. I actually thought she got fouled on the last basket she made. They were oh so close. To lose hurts and to lose by 1 point really hurts. She did all she could do! I hope some WNBA team picks her as she reminds me of Tamicka Catchings as hard as she plays.
Cudos to her and the SC Team for getting this far.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:35 pm ::: |
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| summertime blues wrote: |
| Welch had nothing to hang her head about. She carried this team on her shoulders all year. |
She certainly doesn't have anything to hang her head about. She has been fantastic all year. She plays so hard all the time and I really felt for her because it was her last game. I actually thought she got fouled on the last basket she made. They were oh so close. To lose hurts and to lose by 1 point really hurts. She did all she could do! I hope some WNBA team picks her as she reminds me of Tamicka Catchings as hard as she plays.
Cudos to her and the SC Team for getting this far. |
They wouldn't have been where they are without her. Her leadership will be difficult to replace.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:49 pm ::: |
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| Cable accidently in the right place at the right time. Notre Dame got lucky. |
Actually it's not "luck" at all. Cable has made that same play getting a short shot at the rim and turning and scoring on it several times this year. She watches and sees the shot is short and goes and gets the ball while the opponent is standing around. It's smart play and it's hustle. "Luck' has nothing to do with it. |
Give it up, Art. It was a prayer. |
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| Posted: 04/05/15 8:57 pm ::: |
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The absence of any discernable designed play on that last possession other than "get the ball Tiffany and go win the game for us" was somewhat shocking. |
And what was Notre Dame's last play call other than "give it to Loyd and let her win the game"? Or did Muffet, in a moment of pure genius, tell Loyd to put up an air ball for Cable's putback?
Unbelievable!
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| Posted: 04/05/15 9:12 pm ::: |
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The absence of any discernable designed play on that last possession other than "get the ball Tiffany and go win the game for us" was somewhat shocking. |
And what was Notre Dame's last play call other than "give it to Loyd and let her win the game"? Or did Muffet, in a moment of pure genius, tell Loyd to put up an air ball for Cable's putback?
Unbelievable |
If you were paying attention you'd realize there is no similarity between having your best player take the ball directly into the paint for a short shot or a pass inside with plenty of time for an offensive rebound in the event of a miss, and having your best player dribble around 25 feet from the basket while everyone else just stood around.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 9:26 pm ::: |
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| Not happy that Loyd had to play all forty minutes.
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| Posted: 04/05/15 9:59 pm ::: |
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| They just showed highlights from the game on Sportscenter and they called her "Elijah Welch". ELIJAH? Come on do a little homework.
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Fighting Artichoke
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| Posted: 04/05/15 11:28 pm ::: |
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| Not happy that Loyd had to play all forty minutes. |
I agree, but UConn had 3 starters play 38 (Jefferson) , 38 (Tuck), and 39 (Stewart) minutes (in a 23-point blowout), so I think Jewell will be OK. These women are young and strong. The full day of rest is more than they got in the ACC tournament.
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