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PostPosted: 04/08/08 5:24 pm    ::: When is a lead safe? Reply Reply with quote

http://www.slate.com/id/2185975/

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* Take the number of points one team is ahead.
* Subtract three.
* Add a half-point if the team that is ahead has the ball, and subtract a half-point if the other team has the ball. (Numbers less than zero become zero.)
* Square that.
* If the result is greater than the number of seconds left in the game, the lead is safe.



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PostPosted: 04/08/08 6:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There's no complicated scenario needed to figure out when a lead is safe.

The answer is: When a game is over. And not before.
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PostPosted: 04/08/08 7:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Youth Coach wrote:
There's no complicated scenario needed to figure out when a lead is safe.

The answer is: When a game is over. And not before.


Against Tennessee..10 point lead with 5 second left Wink



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PostPosted: 04/08/08 8:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Again, a lead is only safe when the clock reads 0:00 at the end of the game.

Coaching MY Lady Vols this year, I made it a point to make sure they played each half as if it was the first one.

At the end of the first half I'd ask them what the score was and they would all immediately reply "0-0".
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PostPosted: 04/08/08 8:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Tennessee's halftime lead is 2% safe. Laughing



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PostPosted: 04/08/08 9:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This lead is now safe



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PostPosted: 04/08/08 10:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Youth Coach wrote:
The answer is: When a game is over. And not before.



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The ASU men's team scored 21 points in the last 1 minute and 21 seconds of a game this year. They made 7 of 10 three pointers. The punchline is that they lost the game by 3, because Cal had a 12 point lead and then made 13 of 16 free throws in that same 1:21. The moral of the story, though, is that you CAN score 21 points in less than a minute and a half, so it ain't over 'til it's over.


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PostPosted: 04/08/08 10:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

LadyDevilFan wrote:
Youth Coach wrote:
The answer is: When a game is over. And not before.



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The ASU men's team scored 21 points in the last 1 minute and 21 seconds of a game this year. They made 7 of 10 three pointers. The punchline is that they lost the game by 3, because Cal had a 12 point lead and then made 13 of 16 free throws in that same 1:21. The moral of the story, though, is that you CAN score 21 points in less than a minute and a half, so it ain't over 'til it's over.


Bill James, who wrote the Slate article, would argue that your example proves his point, since Cal won.

Anyway, it's interesting to see him apply the kind of analysis he applies to baseball to another sport.


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PostPosted: 04/08/08 10:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

beknighted wrote:
LadyDevilFan wrote:
Youth Coach wrote:
The answer is: When a game is over. And not before.



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The ASU men's team scored 21 points in the last 1 minute and 21 seconds of a game this year. They made 7 of 10 three pointers. The punchline is that they lost the game by 3, because Cal had a 12 point lead and then made 13 of 16 free throws in that same 1:21. The moral of the story, though, is that you CAN score 21 points in less than a minute and a half, so it ain't over 'til it's over.


Bill James, who wrote the Slate article, would argue that your example proves his point, since Cal won.

Anyway, it's interesting to see him apply the kind of analysis he applies to baseball to another sport.


Then maybe it would help if I had read the article. Embarassed

I still think it's not over until the clock reads 0:00 though.


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PostPosted: 04/08/08 11:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Then maybe it would help if I had read the article. Embarassed

I still think it's not over until the clock reads 0:00 though.


That does take the fun out of it.

As a baseball fan, I found the article interesting because there isn't really the same kind of rule for baseball. You can find examples of big, big leads not being sufficient even with two outs in the 9th because there's no time limit. (There was a major league game in the 1980s where the losing team had a 9-run lead with 2 outs in the ninth, for instance.)


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