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jammerbirdi
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 Posted: 05/04/07 5:05 am ::: DL Hughley On Rugters Women's Basketball Team - Video |
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Carol Anne
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| Posted: 05/04/07 7:49 am ::: |
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| Few things are sadder than watching a black man insult black women for the amusement of a white man. Unless, as in the previous thread, it's reading that (some) white men think it's not only all right, but it's funny. I think that what Imus said was bad form; what Hughley said was far worse.
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womens_hoops
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| Posted: 05/04/07 8:33 am ::: |
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| Carol Anne wrote: |
| I think that what Imus said was bad form; what Hughley said was far worse. |
Yeah, the ironic thing is that if I were on the Rutgers team, I'd be more hurt by what Hughley said than by what Imus said.
But then again, I'm white.
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harlem_basketball
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| Posted: 05/04/07 8:57 am ::: |
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| womens_hoops wrote: |
| Carol Anne wrote: |
| I think that what Imus said was bad form; what Hughley said was far worse. |
Yeah, the ironic thing is that if I were on the Rutgers team, I'd be more hurt by what Hughley said than by what Imus said.
But then again, I'm white. |
That's not ironic. Once this video gets spread all over the place, you'll find that's how many black women feel. Black women have been saying for generations that disrespect from black men cuts far deeper than anything a white man could ever say.
D.L.'s about to get the Wesley Snipes treatment. Hate to say it, but his pandering to the white audience (who he knows damn well aren't going to turn to BET for his asinine show) is going to bite him in the ass among the people who've actually supported his half ass career. |
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luvDhoops
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| Posted: 05/04/07 9:11 am ::: |
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| harlem_basketball wrote: |
| womens_hoops wrote: |
| Carol Anne wrote: |
| I think that what Imus said was bad form; what Hughley said was far worse. |
Yeah, the ironic thing is that if I were on the Rutgers team, I'd be more hurt by what Hughley said than by what Imus said.
But then again, I'm white. |
That's not ironic. Once this video gets spread all over the place, you'll find that's how many black women feel. Black women have been saying for generations that disrespect from black men cuts far deeper than anything a white man could ever say.
D.L.'s about to get the Wesley Snipes treatment. Hate to say it, but his pandering to the white audience (who he knows damn well aren't going to turn to BET for his asinine show) is going to bite him in the ass among the people who've actually supported his half ass career. |
Well said.
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Kamala
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| Posted: 05/04/07 10:27 am ::: |
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| harlem_basketball wrote: |
| womens_hoops wrote: |
| Carol Anne wrote: |
| I think that what Imus said was bad form; what Hughley said was far worse. |
Yeah, the ironic thing is that if I were on the Rutgers team, I'd be more hurt by what Hughley said than by what Imus said.
But then again, I'm white. |
That's not ironic. Once this video gets spread all over the place, you'll find that's how many black women feel. Black women have been saying for generations that disrespect from black men cuts far deeper than anything a white man could ever say.
D.L.'s about to get the Wesley Snipes treatment. Hate to say it, but his pandering to the white audience (who he knows damn well aren't going to turn to BET for his asinine show) is going to bite him in the ass among the people who've actually supported his half ass career. |
I'm sorry I have to disagree. DL is a comedian while Don Imus is not. I think DL and Imus are coming from two different places when talking about the Rutgers players. DL has always talked about everybody's physical makeup so this is no surprise and I don't believe he was "Tomming up" for white folks either. While Don Imus is no comedian and has a long history of making derogatory statements about Blacks specifically Black mens' penises, gays, all women, and Jews. What DL said was simply the truth; something that people have been saying in private. The way some of the posters are going you won't be able to say somebody is ugly! I don't think it's disrespectful to say someone is ugly. It is hurtful but not disrespectful.
Lastly, if Black women are outraged at this then as a Black man I must say it's official that U.S. Blacks have gone to shit. There is too much Black-on-Black crime, illiteracy, drug use, lack of Black institutions, false prophet preachers, and just overall irresponsible behavior amongst Black folks that leads to death for me to worry about Don Imus let alone DL Hughley.
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Kamala
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| Posted: 05/04/07 10:29 am ::: |
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| Carol Anne wrote: |
| Few things are sadder than watching a black man insult black women for the amusement of a white man. Unless, as in the previous thread, it's reading that (some) white men think it's not only all right, but it's funny. I think that what Imus said was bad form; what Hughley said was far worse. |
C'mon now. DL talks about everybody no matter what he's on. This had nothing to do with Jay Leno or a white audience.
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dtsnms
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| Posted: 05/04/07 10:32 am ::: |
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C'mon now. DL talks about everybody no matter what he's on. This had nothing to do with Jay Leno or a white audience. |
So does Don Imus....but it sure had an impact didn't it?
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4ever_bball_fan
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| Posted: 05/04/07 10:38 am ::: |
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Kamala...you obviously never heard Imus's early work as the Right Reverend Billy Sol Hargis, based in Del Rio, TX.
My brother had those records, and we would laugh till our sides hurt...knowing full well what bad taste the humor was against Christians.
Imus's remark regarding the Rutgers' Ladies Basketball team was made during a comedic dialog with another character (actually producer), and he needed to check himself before he said it, yes...but, it was said for humor's sake, dovetailing off what someone else said, after flowing out of making fun with the Spike Lee reference. The whole thing mushroomed...Hughley's remarks were matter of fact, and I think would be far more hurtful to black women. Did D.L. even reference the women's maturity in responding to the situation? Did he praise their accomplishment of advancing to the Championship game, in spite of a woeful beginning to their season??
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harlem_basketball
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| Posted: 05/04/07 10:51 am ::: |
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| Kamala wrote: |
| harlem_basketball wrote: |
| womens_hoops wrote: |
| Carol Anne wrote: |
| I think that what Imus said was bad form; what Hughley said was far worse. |
Yeah, the ironic thing is that if I were on the Rutgers team, I'd be more hurt by what Hughley said than by what Imus said.
But then again, I'm white. |
That's not ironic. Once this video gets spread all over the place, you'll find that's how many black women feel. Black women have been saying for generations that disrespect from black men cuts far deeper than anything a white man could ever say.
D.L.'s about to get the Wesley Snipes treatment. Hate to say it, but his pandering to the white audience (who he knows damn well aren't going to turn to BET for his asinine show) is going to bite him in the ass among the people who've actually supported his half ass career. |
I'm sorry I have to disagree. DL is a comedian while Don Imus is not. I think DL and Imus are coming from two different places when talking about the Rutgers players. DL has always talked about everybody's physical makeup so this is no surprise and I don't believe he was "Tomming up" for white folks either. While Don Imus is no comedian and has a long history of making derogatory statements about Blacks specifically Black mens' penises, gays, all women, and Jews. What DL said was simply the truth; something that people have been saying in private. The way some of the posters are going you won't be able to say somebody is ugly! I don't think it's disrespectful to say someone is ugly. It is hurtful but not disrespectful.
Lastly, if Black women are outraged at this then as a Black man I must say it's official that U.S. Blacks have gone to shit. There is too much Black-on-Black crime, illiteracy, drug use, lack of Black institutions, false prophet preachers, and just overall irresponsible behavior amongst Black folks that leads to death for me to worry about Don Imus let alone DL Hughley. |
This whole post illustrated my point. Thanks. |
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dtsnms
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| Posted: 05/04/07 11:37 am ::: |
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I'll agree with harlem, there Kamala. And you clearly know shit about Don Imus, who has written and done comedy for years.
Allow me, a white man, to clearly state to you, that I have a better clue about reality than you do.
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jammerbirdi
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| Posted: 05/04/07 11:46 am ::: |
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| Kamala wrote: |
| harlem_basketball wrote: |
| womens_hoops wrote: |
| Carol Anne wrote: |
| I think that what Imus said was bad form; what Hughley said was far worse. |
Yeah, the ironic thing is that if I were on the Rutgers team, I'd be more hurt by what Hughley said than by what Imus said.
But then again, I'm white. |
That's not ironic. Once this video gets spread all over the place, you'll find that's how many black women feel. Black women have been saying for generations that disrespect from black men cuts far deeper than anything a white man could ever say.
D.L.'s about to get the Wesley Snipes treatment. Hate to say it, but his pandering to the white audience (who he knows damn well aren't going to turn to BET for his asinine show) is going to bite him in the ass among the people who've actually supported his half ass career. |
I'm sorry I have to disagree. DL is a comedian while Don Imus is not. |
Imus is not a STAND UP comedian, although he is very capable as one. (See Washington Correspondent's Dinner in 1986) But Imus is most certainly a COMEDIAN nevertheless and has been one since LONG before DL Hughley was. His stock in trade was comedy before it morphed into political discourse._________________ Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.” - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17 |
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harlem_basketball
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| Posted: 05/04/07 11:52 am ::: |
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| jammerbirdi wrote: |
| Imus is not a STAND UP comedian, although he is very capable as one. (See Washington Correspondent's Dinner in 1986) But Imus is most certainly a COMEDIAN nevertheless and has been one since LONG before DL Hughley was. His stock in trade was comedy before it morphed into political discourse. |
| dtsnms wrote: |
| I'll agree with harlem, there Kamala. And you clearly know shit about Don Imus, who has written and done comedy for years. |
 But it's far easier to get your info from half ass media accounts and formulate an opinion based on those. |
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Kamala
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| Posted: 05/04/07 12:02 pm ::: |
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| harlem_basketball wrote: |
| jammerbirdi wrote: |
| Imus is not a STAND UP comedian, although he is very capable as one. (See Washington Correspondent's Dinner in 1986) But Imus is most certainly a COMEDIAN nevertheless and has been one since LONG before DL Hughley was. His stock in trade was comedy before it morphed into political discourse. |
| dtsnms wrote: |
| I'll agree with harlem, there Kamala. And you clearly know shit about Don Imus, who has written and done comedy for years. |
But it's far easier to get your info from half ass media accounts and formulate an opinion based on those. |
Now, we're getting into a debate about what's comedy and what's not. I do know that Imus' show leaned more into political discourse than comedy. AND, I KNOW A RACIST WHEN I SEE/HEAR ONE AND DON IMUS IS A RACIST! I'm sorry I WILL NOT AGREE WITH ANY ONE THAT FEELS IMUS' COMMENTS AND DL HUGHLEY'S COMMENTS ARE ONE IN THE SAME.
Furthermore, when have white men needed lessons from Black men to disrespect Black women? Someone, anyone answer that for me? I'm not falling for the okey doke, white men like Imus have been calling Black women "bs", "hoes", "sluts," and the like long before Rap music was even a thought. How do you think U.S. Blacks got to be a mulatto people? Do you think it was largely love or rape? Imus' whole Rap music/Black people use it is an excuse and nothing more.
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