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cthskzfn
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| Rights and understanding are not zero sum. If more people can understand and empathize with the black race, it doesn't mean that less people are understanding and empathizing with the white race. There doesn't have to be this competition, for the issues are complementary, not mutually exclusive. |
Exactly. Thank you. |
yes, but as bk himself said- there was no need to fire imus.
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LadyDevilFan
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| Posted: 04/12/07 4:26 pm ::: |
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QUESTION:
When during the show was the team on? Beginning, middle, end?
I have to go to campus to turn in an essay at some point during that hour...but I'd like to avoid missing them if I could.
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Beginning, if what I've been told is right. |
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UTexRulz23
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| Posted: 04/12/07 4:30 pm ::: |
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| UTexRulz23 wrote: |
| Rights and understanding are not zero sum. If more people can understand and empathize with the black race, it doesn't mean that less people are understanding and empathizing with the white race. There doesn't have to be this competition, for the issues are complementary, not mutually exclusive. |
Exactly. Thank you. |
yes, but as bk himself said- there was no need to fire imus. |
Maybe there was, maybe there wasn't. But the bottom line is, Imus violated his company's policy and more importantly abused his position as a mass-media communicator. People have gotten fired for worse reasons (e.g. not having a uniform completely clean, leaving five minutes too early, etc...) and they have certainly been kept on for worse infractions. My guess is that Imus's sponsors were also outraged (understandably so) and pulled support. It's not outside the realm of possibility that a person be fired for making public, wide-reaching, racist comments.
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cthskzfn
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| Posted: 04/12/07 4:36 pm ::: |
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Maybe there was, maybe there wasn't. But the bottom line is, Imus violated his company's policy and more importantly abused his position as a mass-media communicator. People have gotten fired for worse reasons (e.g. not having a uniform completely clean, leaving five minutes too early, etc...) and they have certainly been kept on for worse infractions. My guess is that Imus's sponsors were also outraged (understandably so) and pulled support. It's not outside the realm of possibility that a person be fired for making public, wide-reaching, racist comments.
this story was incredibly overblown. the end result is ridiculous.
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bluewolfvii
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| Posted: 04/12/07 4:47 pm ::: |
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| Imus has been done this path before and didn't deliver to drop the rascist comments from the show as he had promised. His firing was overdue.
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Slovydal
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| Posted: 04/12/07 5:54 pm ::: |
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On the other hand, if CViv starts hosting Saturday Night Live, it will be too much. |
LOL!
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UTexRulz23
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| Posted: 04/12/07 6:19 pm ::: |
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Maybe there was, maybe there wasn't. But the bottom line is, Imus violated his company's policy and more importantly abused his position as a mass-media communicator. People have gotten fired for worse reasons (e.g. not having a uniform completely clean, leaving five minutes too early, etc...) and they have certainly been kept on for worse infractions. My guess is that Imus's sponsors were also outraged (understandably so) and pulled support. It's not outside the realm of possibility that a person be fired for making public, wide-reaching, racist comments.
this story was incredibly overblown. the end result is ridiculous. |
The story itself has not been overblown. It seems like everyone has been reporting what actually happened. In your opinion, the response has been overblown. However, that is a matter of opinion. Bottom line: IT DOESN'T MATTER.
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| Posted: 04/12/07 6:33 pm ::: |
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The story itself has not been overblown. It seems like everyone has been reporting what actually happened. In your opinion, the response has been overblown. However, that is a matter of opinion. Bottom line: IT DOESN'T MATTER.
It always matters to someone...
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cthskzfn
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| Posted: 04/12/07 6:40 pm ::: |
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In your opinion, the response has been overblown.
the response is part of the story, n'est-ce pas?
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| Posted: 04/12/07 6:58 pm ::: |
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| UTexRulz23 wrote: |
| cthskzfn wrote: |
| beknighted wrote: |
| UTexRulz23 wrote: |
| Rights and understanding are not zero sum. If more people can understand and empathize with the black race, it doesn't mean that less people are understanding and empathizing with the white race. There doesn't have to be this competition, for the issues are complementary, not mutually exclusive. |
Exactly. Thank you. |
yes, but as bk himself said- there was no need to fire imus. |
Maybe there was, maybe there wasn't. But the bottom line is, Imus violated his company's policy and more importantly abused his position as a mass-media communicator. People have gotten fired for worse reasons (e.g. not having a uniform completely clean, leaving five minutes too early, etc...) and they have certainly been kept on for worse infractions. My guess is that Imus's sponsors were also outraged (understandably so) and pulled support. It's not outside the realm of possibility that a person be fired for making public, wide-reaching, racist comments. |
The bottom line was that this had financial implications both in the short and long term.
The response from MSNBC and CBS was a 2 week suspention.
When sponsorship pulled...possibly because they were outraged...even more possibly due to character assasination by association. I know this is a cynical approach, but the general thought is that big business chooses financial values over moral most of the time. Not a completely fair statement to blanket all of these sponsors as I have no intimate knowledge of their CEO's/CFO's or board...but pretty much on par.
Entertainers and athletes do get kept on for worse transgressions if they generate $ or wins for their employers...Imus got cut loose because he could no longer provide either.
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LTF1
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| Posted: 04/13/07 12:05 am ::: |
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I may have missed it, but did the wcbb team that actually WON the national championship get an invite to Oprah?
My goodness. Something I never thought would happen, has happened. I am feeling bad for the Lady Vols. |
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thesixthwoman
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| Posted: 04/13/07 4:09 am ::: |
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I may have missed it, but did the wcbb team that actually WON the national championship get an invite to Oprah?
My goodness. Something I never thought would happen, has happened. I am feeling bad for the Lady Vols. |
well, that's what they get for being "cuter," you see.
actually, i hear you. i never thought i would feel sorry for them either, but i have been thinking about them. and generally they are the reviled enemy!!
i don't know if anyone has posted this, but today on Oprah -- Essence mentioned them as well - and forgive me if I say i thought this was very VERY 'classy' of her - she said something like "the winners, a great team like Tennessee, lost their moment, too." or that was the gist of it. and she didn't get to speak for too long, so I inferred that she has been thinking of them too, considering how this might be affecting them. in case you can't tell from my avatar over there, I really like this girl. she's NOT just 'well-spoken' for an athlete -- she is extraordinarily well-spoken for a 20-year-old. any 20-year-old.
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| Posted: 04/13/07 3:15 pm ::: |
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| Anything for ratings, Winfrey.
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