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PostPosted: 01/23/25 7:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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It's encouraging to observe from afar the dozens (if not hundreds) of immediate moves the new POTUS has been making, to reduce the price of groceries for you all.
Ending the war in Ukraine within 24 hours was wonderful too.


i hope that's sarcasm.

Grocery prices aren't going down here. Dumpster even admitted recently he won't be able to do that despite it being a top promise of his. And then once he enacts his tariffs, grocery prices, among other things, will increase.

The Russia-Ukraine war isn't done. he's just threatening this from Putin to end it "or else!'.



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PostPosted: 01/23/25 11:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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It somehow is forgotten that there were injuries and deaths as a result of that day's activities.

Injuries, deaths and untold material destruction. THAT is the very Calling Card of MAGGOT-ism. As their morally bankrupt leader instructs repeatedly, "If you lie long enough, loud enough, people will believe it". Actual Truth and Veritable Reality are of no value. And the MAGGOTS cling to his fetid flesh, thriving on his vile rhetoric.

Andddd.....on cue, an illustration manifests itself. 🙄
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Yes, there was one protestor who was killed. Shot by Capitol Police. Brought it upon herself. That was it, one person died.


Go ahead. Feel free to prove me wrong.


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PostPosted: 01/24/25 4:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Vance's wife is not an immigrant. Born in the San Diego area. Melania is a legal immigrant (although there are claims about Melania not doing things correctly or not following the law). The path of euphemisms via the press on people here illegally was illegal alien (still what is in the law) -> illegal immigrant -> undocumented immigrant -> (Trump announcement speech) -> immigrant.

It is notable that people who call illegal migrants immigrants don't call for immigration quotas to be lifted so anyone in the world can migrate here immediately legally. It's almost like they aren't actually concerned on helping economic migrants, but they want an illegal workforce that lowers the cost of their lawn care, roof replacement, house painting, hotel stay, etc. and could care less about the damage it does to American workers. But their savings on services are offset by the expenses it adds to schools and hospitals and governments that is paid for from taxes and healthcare insurance.




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PostPosted: 01/24/25 5:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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It somehow is forgotten that there were injuries and deaths as a result of that day's activities.


There are 10,000 times more injuries and deaths as a result of the billions upon billions of dollars of weapons that Biden is sending to Israel since 10/7/2023 on top of the billions upon billions we already gave them. Democrats almost universally support that, including the 2024 nominee, Kamala Harris.


American deaths, because apparently you only care about “legal” US citizens? You turn into a human being when it suits the argument?


Sorry, there is no such thing as an illegal US citizen. And apparently you like an illegal workforce (that hurts American workers) because I haven't seen you calling for the removal of immigration quotas. Presumably you think arguing for the enforcement of USA immigration law (designed to, among other things - protect American workers) is inhuman. But Republican CEOs are all for illegal workers. In fact, they were the OG supporters of illegal workers. So let's give them a shout out for having a good heart.

Surprising that Democrats are still self-righteous and full of condemnation when it was they who elected and stood steadfast by the Biden-Harris Administration as they rushed billions upon billions of bombs to Israel so they could commit genocide (indicted for such by the UN Court) and war crimes (International Criminal Court with arrest warrants for Netanyahu and a henchman) and destroy Gaza such that the Palestinians have to live elsewhere while the Israelis then build sea-front condos on it. What could Biden-Harris have done worse than being a key part of that? Although, the defense "but the Republicans would have done it too" is there for the taking.



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PostPosted: 01/24/25 5:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It took you two days to post that bunch of nonsense? 😂
Maybe you should see if you could work for Trumper. He seems to hire anybody that kisses his ass, whether they’re competent or much more likely not.



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PostPosted: 01/24/25 5:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Injuries, deaths and untold material destruction. THAT is the very Calling Card of MAGGOT-ism.


The Biden-Harris administration just took a key role in genocide (UN Court indictment), ethnic cleansing, the destruction of the majority of buildings in Gaza making the area uninhabitable, and war crimes (ICC arrest warrants). What has happened in Gaza and the West Bank is horrific and will only get worse. And without the actions of the Biden-Harris Administration and the support of Bidenistas, could not have taken place as it did.




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It took you two days to post that bunch of nonsense? 😂
Maybe you should see if you could work for Trumper. He seems to hire anybody that kisses his ass, whether they’re competent or much more likely not.


Try making arguments with something you disagree with. And saying Biden fueled a genocide, war crimes and ethnic cleansing is not saying anything about Trump. Democrats have gotten to the point where they don't accept any criticism of their leaders. But you have it wrong - the correct accusation when someone criticizes a Democratic leader is to call them a Russian or a Russian propagandist.




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PostPosted: 01/24/25 5:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Biden criticized Trump's tariffs, and then kept all of those on China and added some more.

Biden finalizes increases to some of Trump’s China tariffs


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PostPosted: 01/24/25 6:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Dumpster is going to hand over Ukraine to Russia a


I don't think we know what Trump will do with Ukraine. He talks peace and negotiations and he also talks how he is going to pressure Russia. He is nothing if not inconsistent. That is why they say you want to be the last person to talk to him on an issue. He previously (first term) was said to be a "Putin puppet" by Democrats and yet gave weapons to Ukraine that Obama withheld, increased sanctions on Russia, and was against the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

The best thing for Ukraine would have been for the USA to stay out of the country and not give them over $5 billion (not including CIA money) promoting the Russian-hating western Ukrainians before the 2014 coup in which a USA-backed ("Yats is our guy") individual was installed. The second best would have been for the USA and it's EU vassal states to get them to honor Minsk and Minsk 2 treaties during the civil war that was started because the USA-backed coup government immediately banned Russian as a secondary official language in areas where it was spoken. The third best would have been for NATO to agree not to expand prior to the war in order to keep Russia from invading. The fourth best would have been for the USA and UK to not talk Ukraine out of the March 2022 peace negotiations. The worst thing for Ukraine was to give them just enough weapons to keep losing and getting wrecked. At this point there is no good solution for Ukraine. The country has been destroyed as a result of the USA warmongers wanting to "weaken Russia" and using them in a proxy war that USA think tanks had written papers about years ago. If NATO wants Ukraine to win (doesn't seem like the USA does) it is probably too late to give Ukraine the good weapons (rather than primarily cleaning out closets) the USA would use, as Ukraine has had so many casualties. NATO would need to join the fight. But a fight against a nuclear power - who would see a war with an organization that only exists to fight them as a threat to their existence - could easily end in nuclear war. Or really, would end in nuclear war.

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and Israel will take over Palestine soon.


What was Biden (and Blinken) doing to prevent Israel from taking over all of Gaza and the West Bank? Not only was he not stopping that, he was rushing billions upon billions to Israel to help them slaughter Palestinians in Gaza. And lying in a debate that he wasn't sending 2,000 pound bombs. Biden told Menachim Begin in 1982 in USA senate chambers that when Israel invaded Lebanon they shouldn't worry about killing women and children (he wouldn't have to tell Israel that now). Biden was the one who let Israel repeatedly block UN aid trucks carrying food needed to stop starvation, particularly of children. Biden showed no concern for the Palestinians and did nothing to show he would stop the complete expulsion of them from the West Bank (Israel has continued to take over the West Bank under multiple presidents) and Gaza. Don't see how Trump could be any worse.


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PostPosted: 01/24/25 7:54 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Since trumpfan couldn’t remember the video I posted years ago about the expert economist speaking on the value of immigrant labor for the US economy, I’ll post this article.

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Undocumented immigrants, using Individual Tax Identification Numbers (ITIN) numbers, paid $59.4 billion in federal and $13.6 billion in state and local taxes in 2022. Undocumented immigrants also paid $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in unemployment insurance in 2022, programs for which they are ineligible.

In an economic sense, immigrants and their labor contribute to the growth of the overall economy. The Congressional Budget Office recently found that immigrants will add $7 trillion to the economy over the next ten years. Because of a projected surge of 5.2 million immigrant workers by 2033, the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) will grow by $8.7 trillion over the same time period, with federal taxes increasing by $1.2 trillion and federal deficits decreasing by $900 billion.


https://cmsny.org/importance-of-immigrant-labor-to-us-economy



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PostPosted: 01/25/25 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The only thing that you can count on with Trump is that he is LYING. He has never taken an honest breath in his life, and he never will.

Fucker will probably still be lying when he's dead!!!!!!

I didn't see much of the inauguration. What I did see is that MT looked like she was at a funeral and never smiled. She was probably mourning her life that could have been.

The only time I saw her smile that day was that one time with Usha Vance.



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BREAKING: Trump orders 25% tariffs on all goods from Colombia after 2 deportation flights were rejected. which will increase to 50 percent next week. Their top exports are oil, coffee, and fruit.

Enjoy your $8 gallon of gas, $15 cup of coffee, and $10 bananas, America!




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PostPosted: 01/27/25 4:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Trump's threat to Colombia has paid off!
They have agreed to take their criminal offenders back Laughing



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Trump's threat to Colombia has paid off!
They have agreed to take their criminal offenders back Laughing






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PostPosted: 01/27/25 8:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I was at the store a couple of weeks ago and eggs were $3.99/dz.

I talked to someone earlier today who said that eggs were $4.59/dz.

I was at the store about an hour after talking to him and eggs are now $5.09/dz.

I'm pretty sure that he was talking about the same store that I went to. He's mentioned going to that store before and has never talked about going to another store.



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An Indiana man recently pardoned by President Donald Trump for storming the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, is dead after being shot by a sheriff’s deputy while allegedly resisting arrest.

https://www.wane.com/news/jan-6-rioter-recently-pardoned-by-trump-shot-killed-by-indiana-sheriffs-deputy-while-resisting-arrest/



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PostPosted: 01/27/25 9:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I was at the store a couple of weeks ago and eggs were $3.99/dz.

I talked to someone earlier today who said that eggs were $4.59/dz.

I was at the store about an hour after talking to him and eggs are now $5.09/dz.

I'm pretty sure that he was talking about the same store that I went to. He's mentioned going to that store before and has never talked about going to another store.


Both Dumpster and Vance have both said they can't lower grocery prices. Another lie!! I had a hardcore Republican/MAGA tell me today that he can't get grocery prices to go down due to corporate greed. I said, well ya'll blamed Biden for four years and now you won't point the finger at the Dumpster?!?!?



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PostPosted: 01/27/25 10:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
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I was at the store a couple of weeks ago and eggs were $3.99/dz.

I talked to someone earlier today who said that eggs were $4.59/dz.

I was at the store about an hour after talking to him and eggs are now $5.09/dz.

I'm pretty sure that he was talking about the same store that I went to. He's mentioned going to that store before and has never talked about going to another store.


Both Dumpster and Vance have both said they can't lower grocery prices. Another lie!! I had a hardcore Republican/MAGA tell me today that he can't get grocery prices to go down due to corporate greed. I said, well ya'll blamed Biden for four years and now you won't point the finger at the Dumpster?!?!?


Exactly!! Those are the type of people that he could tell he shits gold bars and they would believe him.



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PostPosted: 01/28/25 3:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Federal assistance freeze mandated. Medicaid, SNAP and EBT benefits affected.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-white-house-clarify-confusion-abrupt-federal-assistance/story?id=118184086



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Guantanamo Bay will house 30,000 migrants, turned into a detention camp.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-2nd-term-live-updates-executive-action-plans/?id=117934786



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