View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
tfan
Joined: 31 May 2010 Posts: 9641
Back to top |
|
summertime blues
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 7852 Location: Shenandoah Valley
Back to top |
Posted: 12/31/22 6:03 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
This article is pretty much only talking about P5/AP ranked teams. Thare are others just below this level that you could make a pretty strong argument for, like James Madison's Kseniia Kozlova, who transferred from Middle Tennessee and is now starting and scoring 18-20 PPG.
_________________ Don't take life so serious. It ain't nohows permanent.
It takes 3 years to build a team and 7 to build a program.--Conventional Wisdom
|
|
linkster
Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Posts: 5423
Back to top |
Posted: 12/31/22 11:54 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
summertime blues wrote: |
This article is pretty much only talking about P5/AP ranked teams. Thare are others just below this level that you could make a pretty strong argument for, like James Madison's Kseniia Kozlova, who transferred from Middle Tennessee and is now starting and scoring 18-20 PPG. |
Reese is obviously a very talented player but if these players are being ranked according to their play this season then the rankers believe that the level of competition faced is irrelevant and a player in the Colonial Conf. putting up great numbers can't be excluded. (Except they are.)
|
|
summertime blues
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 7852 Location: Shenandoah Valley
Back to top |
Posted: 01/01/23 3:38 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
linkster wrote: |
summertime blues wrote: |
This article is pretty much only talking about P5/AP ranked teams. Thare are others just below this level that you could make a pretty strong argument for, like James Madison's Kseniia Kozlova, who transferred from Middle Tennessee and is now starting and scoring 18-20 PPG. |
Reese is obviously a very talented player but if these players are being ranked according to their play this season then the rankers believe that the level of competition faced is irrelevant and a player in the Colonial Conf. putting up great numbers can't be excluded. (Except they are.) |
JMU is in the Sun Belt now. Please try to keep up.
_________________ Don't take life so serious. It ain't nohows permanent.
It takes 3 years to build a team and 7 to build a program.--Conventional Wisdom
|
|
Queenie
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18032 Location: Queens
Back to top |
Posted: 01/01/23 5:56 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
summertime blues wrote: |
This article is pretty much only talking about P5/AP ranked teams. Thare are others just below this level that you could make a pretty strong argument for, like James Madison's Kseniia Kozlova, who transferred from Middle Tennessee and is now starting and scoring 18-20 PPG. |
I mean, you’re assuming the reviewers know that other conferences exist.
_________________ Ardent believer in the separation of church and stadium.
|
|
PickledGinger
Joined: 04 Oct 2013 Posts: 1366
Back to top |
|
ArtBest23
Joined: 02 Jul 2013 Posts: 14550
Back to top |
Posted: 01/01/23 6:57 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
Queenie wrote: |
summertime blues wrote: |
This article is pretty much only talking about P5/AP ranked teams. Thare are others just below this level that you could make a pretty strong argument for, like James Madison's Kseniia Kozlova, who transferred from Middle Tennessee and is now starting and scoring 18-20 PPG. |
I mean, you’re assuming the reviewers know that other conferences exist. |
That probably overstates it. I suspect they're saying to themselves "she's playing really well at James Madison, but would she even be starting, much less scoring 20, at LSU or Indiana or Arizona or Louisville or Virginia Tech, etc." In JMU's one big game vs UNC, Kozlova had zero pts in 31 minutes. It's not a ridiculous question to ask. They included transfers to both USF and Gonzaga, but the standard is probably tougher for non-P5 players and they don't get as many chances to prove it.
|
|
summertime blues
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 7852 Location: Shenandoah Valley
Back to top |
Posted: 01/02/23 2:01 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
ArtBest23 wrote: |
Queenie wrote: |
summertime blues wrote: |
This article is pretty much only talking about P5/AP ranked teams. Thare are others just below this level that you could make a pretty strong argument for, like James Madison's Kseniia Kozlova, who transferred from Middle Tennessee and is now starting and scoring 18-20 PPG. |
I mean, you’re assuming the reviewers know that other conferences exist. |
That probably overstates it. I suspect they're saying to themselves "she's playing really well at James Madison, but would she even be starting, much less scoring 20, at LSU or Indiana or Arizona or Louisville or Virginia Tech, etc." In JMU's one big game vs UNC, Kozlova had zero pts in 31 minutes. It's not a ridiculous question to ask. They included transfers to both USF and Gonzaga, but the standard is probably tougher for non-P5 players and they don't get as many chances to prove it. |
JMU's game against UNC was their second game out of the gate. If they played the Tarheels today, the way both teams are playing, the Dukes would have a very good chance of winning. You are not taking into account how things develop over time.
_________________ Don't take life so serious. It ain't nohows permanent.
It takes 3 years to build a team and 7 to build a program.--Conventional Wisdom
|
|
summertime blues
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 7852 Location: Shenandoah Valley
Back to top |
Posted: 01/02/23 2:03 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
ArtBest23 wrote: |
Queenie wrote: |
summertime blues wrote: |
This article is pretty much only talking about P5/AP ranked teams. Thare are others just below this level that you could make a pretty strong argument for, like James Madison's Kseniia Kozlova, who transferred from Middle Tennessee and is now starting and scoring 18-20 PPG. |
I mean, you’re assuming the reviewers know that other conferences exist. |
That probably overstates it. I suspect they're saying to themselves "she's playing really well at James Madison, but would she even be starting, much less scoring 20, at LSU or Indiana or Arizona or Louisville or Virginia Tech, etc." In JMU's one big game vs UNC, Kozlova had zero pts in 31 minutes. It's not a ridiculous question to ask. They included transfers to both USF and Gonzaga, but the standard is probably tougher for non-P5 players and they don't get as many chances to prove it. |
JMU's game against UNC was their second game out of the gate. If they played the Tarheels today, the way both teams are playing, the Dukes would have a very good chance of winning. You are not taking into account how things develop over time. Or, as Pat said so often, it's not about how you play in November, it's about how you play in March. If Kozlova continues at her present pace, she could possibly be in the running, along with Kiki Jefferson, for Sun Belt POY. (Jefferson was picked preseason)
_________________ Don't take life so serious. It ain't nohows permanent.
It takes 3 years to build a team and 7 to build a program.--Conventional Wisdom
|
|
ArtBest23
Joined: 02 Jul 2013 Posts: 14550
Back to top |
Posted: 01/02/23 4:10 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
I don't know what makes you think JMU would beat UNC today.
To start with their game was JMU's 5th, not 2nd.
More importantly, the teams JMU has played since then are all mids and have a combined record of 45-59.
It's no wonder the big Russian can look good against the teams JMU is playing now but got completely shut down against UNC. And the same thing would happen if they played again today.
Yep, UNC has lost 3 straight.........to Michigan, FSU, and VaTech. What do you seriously think JMU's record would be playing those three opponents in succession?
|
|
summertime blues
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 7852 Location: Shenandoah Valley
Back to top |
Posted: 01/03/23 12:59 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
ArtBest23 wrote: |
I don't know what makes you think JMU would beat UNC today.
To start with their game was JMU's 5th, not 2nd.
More importantly, the teams JMU has played since then are all mids and have a combined record of 45-59.
It's no wonder the big Russian can look good against the teams JMU is playing now but got completely shut down against UNC. And the same thing would happen if they played again today.
Yep, UNC has lost 3 straight.........to Michigan, FSU, and VaTech. What do you seriously think JMU's record would be playing those three opponents in succession? |
I've watched both teams in action. You undoubtedly have not. You just like to pick fights. I'm done with you.
_________________ Don't take life so serious. It ain't nohows permanent.
It takes 3 years to build a team and 7 to build a program.--Conventional Wisdom
|
|
Stormeo
Joined: 14 Jul 2019 Posts: 4701
Back to top |
Posted: 01/03/23 3:29 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
(sadly for the rest of us, none of y'all who bicker the most on this site are ever actually done with each other)
|
|
singinerd54
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 1817 Location: Missouri
Back to top |
|
undersized_post
Joined: 01 Mar 2021 Posts: 2864
Back to top |
|
ArtBest23
Joined: 02 Jul 2013 Posts: 14550
Back to top |
Posted: 01/04/23 6:09 pm ::: |
Reply |
|
nevermind
not worth it
|
|
wnbafan
Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 737 Location: Delaware
Back to top |
Posted: 01/05/23 7:37 am ::: |
Reply |
|
The transfer portal decimated the Terps (MD), but so far it looks like transfers Abby Myers and Eliza Pinzan are complementing Diamond Miller and Shy Sellers nicely.
Hopefully their one year with the Terps give the new freshmen a year of learning and growth to move this team higher in the standings next year.
_________________ Be kind, be careful, be yourself
|
|
|
|