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Shades
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Posted: 07/28/22 11:20 am ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
but she's closer to EWilliams than SFowles. |
Neither of them are as versatile as Boston. I see her closer to A’ja Wilson if she can strengthen her body a bit. Boston started shooting the three a lot sooner than Wilson. |
Her game is nothing like Wilson’s. |
Well actually now that Wilson has moved to the center position, they are kinda similar. Wilson is discovering that she’s a pretty good defensive center (aka Parker?) with all her blocks (she had 6 in the Commissioner’s Cup final).
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Aliyah Boston Naismith Defensive Player of the Year (2022) |
Boston and Wilson both come from South Carolina Dawn Staley basketball, so Boston should be getting the same physical and basketball training.
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Yeah she shoots the three, but she's not nearly as athletic, long, or mobile. |
It’s kinda hard to match the natural upper body strength of Wilson unless your name is McCowan. She is hitting the gym pretty hard though, so you never know how that might go. I think lengthwise they’re pretty much the same. And she’s pretty mobile for a center. I never said that Boston is a Wilson clone. What I’m saying is she’s a lot closer to Wilson than EWilliams. You had to have written that name down to provoke a response. EWill is somebody playing behind a rookie in Shakira Austin, a rookie who is third or fourth in the current ROY race.
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Will she go #1. Yeah, inevitably. |
And you think it’s inevitable not because of her talent but rather her hype? Yeah, she gets so much hype that she can’t even get an invite to the ESPY’s.
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And you're right she will probably start for Indy or NY. |
I could see ATL, maybe WAS (they have the Sparks pick).
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That doesn't make her a generational talent. |
Your need to be a contrarian against maybe one of the most consensus #1 picks will have you dying on a hill you shouldn’t even be on.
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How will she develop? Yet to be seen. |
That’s what you’re supposed to predict. That’s what we do here. Color you skeptical on Boston? Any chance you’ll change your mind during the college season? I’m guessing that’ll be inevitable.
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A'ja has developed her shot, and increased her moves so she's not so predictable as she was coming out of college. |
The comparison should be Boston coming out of college to Wilson coming out of college. I don’t remember your stance on Wilson as a draft prospect. But I do remember there was a surprising number of skeptics. Easier to take the skeptical stance than to predict success.
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Boston can clearly improve in a number of ways but I don't think she can transform into a mobile 4. |
I really don’t think she needs or wants to change positions. But nobody anticipated Charles moving to the 4, so you never know.
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Shades
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Posted: 07/28/22 1:19 pm ::: |
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RavenDog
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myrtle
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Posted: 07/28/22 7:05 pm ::: |
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Beloved Shades, You make it sound like I'm dissing her. I think she's a very good player and has had an amazing college career. I just don't think she's a Swoopes or Leslie or Stewie or Maya - ie a generational talent. Is that so terrible? If you prefer, I'll compare her to B. Jones, who was an allstar this year. (and BTW I happen to like EWill better than Pilight for instance). I just don't see the comparison at all with Wilson. So be it.
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 07/28/22 7:27 pm ::: |
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No one wants you, Boston. The Sky will take you to the promised land. Tell all teams that Chicago is your destination. Sing Frank Sinatra's Chicago song as much as possible to scare away any lusting GMs or coaches.😂
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Shades
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Posted: 07/29/22 9:27 am ::: |
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2021 Standings
MIN 22-10
PHX 19-13
DAL 14-18
NYL 12-20
LAS 12-20
ATL 8-24
IND 6-26
End of 7/28/2022
PHX 13-16
LAS 12-16
DAL 12-16
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ATL 12-17
NYL 10-17
MIN 11-19
IND 5-25
2021 & 2022 Combined
PHX 32-29 (Owned by CHI)
DAL 26-34 (Owned by IND)
LAS 24-36 (Owned by ATL. WAS has option to swap)
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MIN 33-29
NYL 22-37
ATL 20-41
IND 11-51 (Locked in for best odds at #1 pick)
Remaining schedule
DAL: @ATL, @CHI, LVA, IND, NYL, NYL, @PHX, @LAS
LAS: MIN, @NYL, @NYL, @ATL, @WAS, CON, CON, DAL
ATL: DAL, IND, LAS, @MIN, @LVA, NYL, @NYL
MIN: @LAS, @SEA, ATL, @PHX, SEA, @CON
PHX: @NYL, @CON, @CON, NYL, MIN, DAL, CHI
NYL: @CHI, PHX, LAS, LAS, @PHX, @DAL, @DAL, @ATL, ATL
IND: LVA, LVA, @ATL, @DAL, WAS, WAS
Top 5 team
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myrtle
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Posted: 07/29/22 3:28 pm ::: |
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Rock Hard wrote: |
No one wants you, Boston. The Sky will take you to the promised land. Tell all teams that Chicago is your destination. Sing Frank Sinatra's Chicago song as much possible to scare away any lusting GMs or coaches.😂 |
time to take a cold shower Rocky?
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 07/29/22 4:57 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
Rock Hard wrote: |
No one wants you, Boston. The Sky will take you to the promised land. Tell all teams that Chicago is your destination. Sing Frank Sinatra's Chicago song as much possible to scare away any lusting GMs or coaches.😂 |
time to take a cold shower Rocky? |
For what? I hope Boston goes to a team that will develop her talent and not park her buttocks at the end of the bench. Chicago will use her. 💪🏿
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Queenie
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Posted: 07/29/22 5:18 pm ::: |
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Rock Hard wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
Rock Hard wrote: |
No one wants you, Boston. The Sky will take you to the promised land. Tell all teams that Chicago is your destination. Sing Frank Sinatra's Chicago song as much possible to scare away any lusting GMs or coaches.😂 |
time to take a cold shower Rocky? |
For what? I hope Boston goes to a team that will develop her talent and not park her buttocks at the end of the bench. Chicago will use her. 💪🏿 |
I have what sounds like an annoyed and confused Duck on line 1...
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Iluvacc
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Posted: 07/29/22 7:46 pm ::: |
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Count me in on the Boston train, she's gonna be great in this league. I think some have forgotten there were question marks about Aj'a prior to her rookie season. Some thought her ceiling would be an All Star, not a perennial MVP candidate and Olympian!
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 07/29/22 7:54 pm ::: |
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Queenie wrote: |
Rock Hard wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
Rock Hard wrote: |
No one wants you, Boston. The Sky will take you to the promised land. Tell all teams that Chicago is your destination. Sing Frank Sinatra's Chicago song as much possible to scare away any lusting GMs or coaches.😂 |
time to take a cold shower Rocky? |
For what? I hope Boston goes to a team that will develop her talent and not park her buttocks at the end of the bench. Chicago will use her. 💪🏿 |
I have what sounds like an annoyed and confused Duck on line 1... |
Sorry, wrong number.
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ChicagoAnnie
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Shades
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Posted: 07/30/22 5:05 am ::: |
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2021 Standings
MIN 22-10
PHX 19-13
DAL 14-18
NYL 12-20
LAS 12-20
ATL 8-24
IND 6-26
End of 7/29/2022
PHX 13-16
LAS 12-16
DAL 12-16
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ATL 12-17
MIN 11-19
NYL 10-18
IND 5-26
2021 & 2022 Combined
PHX 32-29 (Owned by CHI)
DAL 26-34 (Owned by IND)
LAS 24-36 (Owned by ATL. WAS has option to swap)
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MIN 33-29
NYL 22-38
ATL 20-41
IND 11-52 (Locked in for best odds at #1 pick)
Remaining schedule
DAL: @ATL, @CHI, LVA, IND, NYL, NYL, @PHX, @LAS
LAS: MIN, @NYL, @NYL, @ATL, @WAS, CON, CON, DAL
ATL: DAL, IND, LAS, @MIN, @LVA, NYL, @NYL
MIN: @LAS, @SEA, ATL, @PHX, SEA, @CON
PHX: @NYL, @CON, @CON, NYL, MIN, DAL, CHI
NYL: PHX, LAS, LAS, @PHX, @DAL, @DAL, @ATL, ATL
IND: LVA, @ATL, @DAL, WAS, WAS
Top 5 team
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Shades
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Posted: 07/31/22 10:12 am ::: |
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2021 Standings
MIN 22-10
PHX 19-13
DAL 14-18
NYL 12-20
LAS 12-20
ATL 8-24
IND 6-26
End of 7/30/2022
DAL 13-16
PHX 13-16
LAS 12-16
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ATL 12-18
MIN 11-19
NYL 10-18
IND 5-26
2021 & 2022 Combined
PHX 32-29 (Owned by CHI)
DAL 27-34 (Owned by IND)
LAS 24-36 (Owned by ATL. WAS has option to swap)
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MIN 33-29
NYL 22-38
ATL 20-42
IND 11-52 (Locked in for best odds at #1 pick)
Remaining schedule
DAL: @CHI, LVA, IND, NYL, NYL, @PHX, @LAS
LAS: MIN, @NYL, @NYL, @ATL, @WAS, CON, CON, DAL
ATL: IND, LAS, @MIN, @LVA, NYL, @NYL
MIN: @LAS, @SEA, ATL, @PHX, SEA, @CON
PHX: @NYL, @CON, @CON, NYL, MIN, DAL, CHI
NYL: PHX, LAS, LAS, @PHX, @DAL, @DAL, @ATL, ATL
IND: LVA, @ATL, @DAL, WAS, WAS
Top 5 team
_________________ Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
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RavenDog
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Shades
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Posted: 07/31/22 10:50 pm ::: |
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2021 Standings
MIN 22-10
PHX 19-13
DAL 14-18
NYL 12-20
LAS 12-20
ATL 8-24
IND 6-26
End of 7/31/2022
DAL 13-16
PHX 13-17
LAS 12-17
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ATL 12-18
MIN 12-19
NYL 11-18
IND 5-27
2021 & 2022 Combined
PHX 32-30 (Owned by CHI)
DAL 27-34 (Owned by IND)
LAS 24-36 (Owned by ATL. WAS has option to swap)
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MIN 34-29
NYL 23-38
ATL 20-42
IND 11-53 (Locked in for best odds at #1 pick)
Remaining schedule
DAL: @CHI, LVA, IND, NYL, NYL, @PHX, @LAS
LAS: @NYL, @NYL, @ATL, @WAS, CON, CON, DAL
ATL: IND, LAS, @MIN, @LVA, NYL, @NYL
MIN: @SEA, ATL, @PHX, SEA, @CON
PHX: @CON, @CON, NYL, MIN, DAL, CHI
NYL: LAS, LAS, @PHX, @DAL, @DAL, @ATL, ATL
IND: @ATL, @DAL, WAS, WAS
Top 5 team
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Posted: 08/01/22 9:05 am ::: |
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Regarding Boston, I think a few things make her an eventual franchise player. First it’s her athleticism at her size. Second she features a semblance of a face-up game for a degree of balance. Third, she can switch on smaller players, making her defensive upside substantial. Fourth is the footwork. She has extremely light and quick feet for someone who is so physically dominant. I think she has the highest degree of unique traits of any post player the league has seen, because of how unusual it is to possess some of these skills at her size.
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Shades
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Posted: 08/03/22 10:40 am ::: |
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2021 Standings
MIN 22-10
PHX 19-13
DAL 14-18
NYL 12-20
LAS 12-20
ATL 8-24
IND 6-26
End of 8/02/2022
DAL 14-16
PHX 13-18
NYL 12-18
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LAS 12-18
ATL 12-18
MIN 12-19
IND 5-27
2021 & 2022 Combined
PHX 32-31 (Owned by CHI)
DAL 28-34 (Owned by IND)
NYL 24-38
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MIN 34-29
LAS 24-38 (Owned by ATL. WAS has option to swap)
ATL 20-42
IND 11-53 (Locked in for best odds at #1 pick)
Remaining schedule
DAL: LVA, IND, NYL, NYL, @PHX, @LAS
LAS: @NYL, @ATL, @WAS, CON, CON, DAL
ATL: IND, LAS, @MIN, @LVA, NYL, @NYL
MIN: @SEA, ATL, @PHX, SEA, @CON
PHX: @CON, NYL, MIN, DAL, CHI
NYL: LAS, @PHX, @DAL, @DAL, @ATL, ATL
IND: @ATL, @DAL, WAS, WAS
Top 5 team
_________________ Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
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Shades
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Posted: 08/04/22 4:11 am ::: |
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2021 Standings
MIN 22-10
PHX 19-13
DAL 14-18
NYL 12-20
LAS 12-20
ATL 8-24
IND 6-26
End of 8/03/2022
DAL 14-16
ATL 13-18
NYL 13-18
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PHX 13-18
LAS 12-19
MIN 12-20
IND 5-28
2021 & 2022 Combined
DAL 28-34 (Owned by IND)
NYL 25-38
ATL 21-42
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MIN 34-30
PHX 32-31 (Owned by CHI)
LAS 24-39 (Owned by ATL. WAS has option to swap)
IND 11-54 (Locked in for best odds at #1 pick)
Remaining schedule
DAL: LVA, IND, NYL, NYL, @PHX, @LAS
LAS: @ATL, @WAS, CON, CON, DAL
ATL: LAS, @MIN, @LVA, NYL, @NYL
MIN: ATL, @PHX, SEA, @CON
PHX: @CON, NYL, MIN, DAL, CHI
NYL: @PHX, @DAL, @DAL, @ATL, ATL
IND: @DAL, WAS, WAS
Top 5 team
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Posted: 08/04/22 9:57 pm ::: |
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2021 Standings
MIN 22-10
PHX 19-13
DAL 14-18
NYL 12-20
LAS 12-20
ATL 8-24
IND 6-26
End of 8/04/2022
DAL 15-16
ATL 13-18
NYL 13-18
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PHX 13-19
LAS 12-19
MIN 12-20
IND 5-28
2021 & 2022 Combined
DAL 29-34 (Owned by IND)
NYL 25-38
ATL 21-42
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MIN 34-30
PHX 32-32 (Owned by CHI)
LAS 24-39 (Owned by ATL. WAS has option to swap)
IND 11-54 (Locked in for best odds at #1 pick)
Remaining schedule
DAL: IND, NYL, NYL, @PHX, @LAS
LAS: @ATL, @WAS, CON, CON, DAL
ATL: LAS, @MIN, @LVA, NYL, @NYL
MIN: ATL, @PHX, SEA, @CON
PHX: NYL, MIN, DAL, CHI
NYL: @PHX, @DAL, @DAL, @ATL, ATL
IND: @DAL, WAS, WAS
Top 5 team
_________________ Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
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Posted: 08/04/22 10:42 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
2021 Standings
MIN 22-10
PHX 19-13
DAL 14-18
NYL 12-20
LAS 12-20
ATL 8-24
IND 6-26
End of 8/04/2022
DAL 15-16
ATL 13-18
NYL 13-18
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PHX 13-19
LAS 12-19
MIN 12-20
IND 5-28
2021 & 2022 Combined
DAL 29-34 (Owned by IND)
NYL 25-38
ATL 21-42
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MIN 34-30
PHX 32-32 (Owned by CHI)
LAS 24-39 (Owned by ATL. WAS has option to swap)
IND 11-54 (Locked in for best odds at #1 pick)
Remaining schedule
DAL: IND, NYL, NYL, @PHX, @LAS
LAS: @ATL, @WAS, CON, CON, DAL
ATL: LAS, @MIN, @LVA, NYL, @NYL
MIN: ATL, @PHX, SEA, @CON
PHX: NYL, MIN, DAL, CHI
NYL: @PHX, @DAL, @DAL, @ATL, ATL
IND: @DAL, WAS, WAS
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And they still won't get it!!! You could put 97 Fever balls in and 3 for the other teams and the Fever will end up in 4th spot!!! They've got the cloud of someone hanging over them!!!
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Shades
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Posted: 08/05/22 9:48 pm ::: |
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2021 Standings
MIN 22-10
PHX 19-13
DAL 14-18
NYL 12-20
LAS 12-20
ATL 8-24
IND 6-26
End of 8/05/2022
DAL 15-16
ATL 14-18
NYL 13-18
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PHX 13-19
MIN 12-20
LAS 12-20
IND 5-28
2021 & 2022 Combined
DAL 29-34 (Owned by IND)
NYL 25-38
ATL 22-42
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MIN 34-30
PHX 32-32 (Owned by CHI)
LAS 24-40 (Owned by ATL. WAS has option to swap)
IND 11-54 (Locked in for best odds at #1 pick)
Remaining schedule
DAL: IND, NYL, NYL, @PHX, @LAS
LAS: @WAS, CON, CON, DAL
ATL: @MIN, @LVA, NYL, @NYL
MIN: ATL, @PHX, SEA, @CON
PHX: NYL, MIN, DAL, CHI
NYL: @PHX, @DAL, @DAL, @ATL, ATL
IND: @DAL, WAS, WAS
Top 5 team
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myrtle
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Posted: 08/05/22 10:32 pm ::: |
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The W should make a new rule. The worst team that 'exceeds' the next worse team by 10 win or losses should automatically get the first pick. To hell with the lottery BS. The other three teams can draw for picks 2 thru 4. They can call it the Indiana rule. If Washington or Chicago get the #1 pick it would be a travesty.
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