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Stormeo
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Posted: 09/13/19 5:21 pm ::: |
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Oof, Idk if the idea of Plum to Chicago came as a misunderstanding of my post, as I suggested Plum to Phoenix, #5 to Chicago, & KLS to Vegas. If it did, that's what I was really suggesting. Phoenix was the only other west coast team (Plum's a SoCal gal) that I thought realistically could use her; she wouldn't be needed in LA or Seattle as they stand now. Although, Plum to Chicago would be sort of interesting if Vandersloot retires sooner rather than later, but I doubt she'd willingly go there or any non-west coast team anyway unless she needed to really resurrect her career (that point hasn't come... yet). And Plum would be a RFA not a UFA after 2020 if she doesn't sign any extension, so Vegas would likely just match whatever contract she'd sign, especially if Cambage comes off the payroll after 2020.
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Randy
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Posted: 09/13/19 5:24 pm ::: |
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Stormeo wrote: |
Oof, Idk if the idea of Plum to Chicago came as a misunderstanding of my post, as I suggested Plum to Phoenix, #5 to Chicago, & KLS to Vegas. If it did, that's what I was really suggesting. Phoenix was the only other west coast team (Plum's a SoCal gal) that I thought realistically could use her; she wouldn't be needed in LA or Seattle as they stand now. Although, Plum to Chicago would be sort of interesting if Vandersloot retires sooner rather than later, but I doubt she'd willingly go there or any non-west coast team anyway unless she needed to really resurrect her career (that point hasn't come... yet). And Plum would be a RFA not a UFA after 2020 if she doesn't sign any extension, so Vegas would likely just match whatever contract she'd sign, especially if Cambage comes off the payroll after 2020. |
There goes my Plum to Atlanta for No. 4 idea.
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Stormeo
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Posted: 09/13/19 5:43 pm ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
Stormeo wrote: |
Oof, Idk if the idea of Plum to Chicago came as a misunderstanding of my post, as I suggested Plum to Phoenix, #5 to Chicago, & KLS to Vegas. If it did, that's what I was really suggesting. Phoenix was the only other west coast team (Plum's a SoCal gal) that I thought realistically could use her; she wouldn't be needed in LA or Seattle as they stand now. Although, Plum to Chicago would be sort of interesting if Vandersloot retires sooner rather than later, but I doubt she'd willingly go there or any non-west coast team anyway unless she needed to really resurrect her career (that point hasn't come... yet). And Plum would be a RFA not a UFA after 2020 if she doesn't sign any extension, so Vegas would likely just match whatever contract she'd sign, especially if Cambage comes off the payroll after 2020. |
There goes my Plum to Atlanta for No. 4 idea. |
Hey, it doesn't mean Laimbeer can't say tough sh!t & trade her while he still has her
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Randy
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Posted: 09/13/19 5:48 pm ::: |
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But then we'd have just a player that doesn't want to be where she is. We all know how that ends up.
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pilight
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Posted: 09/13/19 5:50 pm ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
But then we'd have just a player that doesn't want to be where she is. We all know how that ends up. |
Speculation. She went to school more than 1200 miles from home.
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zune69
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Posted: 09/14/19 1:11 am ::: |
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Wouldn't be a bad idea to sign Raisa Musina and develop her as the future backup PF. Musina would more than likely sit out the first half of the 2020 season.
Signing a young backup pg like Colson or L.Allen to takeover for January after she retires would also be a good move.
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Shades
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Posted: 09/14/19 6:19 am ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
Wouldn't be a bad idea to sign Raisa Musina and develop her as the future backup PF. Musina would more than likely sit out the first half of the 2020 season. |
Russia has been eliminated from Olympic contention.
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zune69
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Posted: 09/14/19 7:30 am ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
Wouldn't be a bad idea to sign Raisa Musina and develop her as the future backup PF. Musina would more than likely sit out the first half of the 2020 season. |
Russia has been eliminated from Olympic contention. |
Thanks...
Phoenix should make Musina an offer before another team beats them to the punch. I don't know her overseas contract situation. But if she's open to playing in the WNBA, I think Musina is worth the risk.
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zune69
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Posted: 09/14/19 8:03 am ::: |
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Phoenix could also use a playmaking SG and PF....Atlanta need to rebuild.
Y. Turner & the 5# pk and for Hayes
G- Mitchell
G- Hayes
F- Taurasi
F- Bonner
C- Griner
Maybe Phoenix sweetens the deal
Y. Turner, B.Turner the 5# pk and 2020 2nd rd pk for Hayes & Breland
G- Mitchell
G- Taurasi
F- Bonner
F- Breland
C- Griner
6- Hayes
OR
G- Mitchell
G- Hayes
F- Taurasi
F- Bonner
C- Griner
6- Breland
After Taurasi retires:
G- Mitchell
G- Hayes
F- Bonner
F- Breland
C- Griner
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Randy
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Posted: 09/14/19 8:16 am ::: |
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First player in WNBA history to retire without ever having committed a foul.
BTW - Little known fact. Her family name is actually Little. Mistake on her birth certificate changed it to Lyttle.
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Randy
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Posted: 09/14/19 8:21 am ::: |
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Zune - Breland for Cunningham and No. 5 seems more fair to me. Dream would be overpaying to give up Hayes for 5. This is a lousy draft. I could see some deal involving Williams or Montgomery though, but Merc. don't have many assets. to trade. Also - Don't want Y. Turner.
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zune69
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Posted: 09/14/19 8:35 am ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
Zune - Breland for Cunningham and No. 5 seems more fair to me. Dream would be overpaying to give up Hayes for 5. This is a lousy draft. I could see some deal involving Williams or Montgomery though, but Merc. don't have many assets. to trade. Also - Don't want Y. Turner. |
Hmm....That's depends...If Carter and Sabally declares, that would deepen the draft. I'm also not sure if Phoenix would give up the #5 pk for a PF who only shot 38% from the field.
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Randy
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Posted: 09/14/19 8:49 am ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
Randy wrote: |
Zune - Breland for Cunningham and No. 5 seems more fair to me. Dream would be overpaying to give up Hayes for 5. This is a lousy draft. I could see some deal involving Williams or Montgomery though, but Merc. don't have many assets. to trade. Also - Don't want Y. Turner. |
Hmm....That's depends...If Carter and Sabally declared, that would deepen the draft. I'm also not sure if Phoenix would give up the #5 pk for a PF who only shot 38% from the field. |
I agree - depends on who comes out for the draft. Breland would probably do better on a team that has shooters and good passers. Phoenix does like experienced players, so it might take some adjustments to make a deal work.
BTW - B. Turner actually seems to fit pretty well on Phoenix next to Griner so they may just want a backup for her. Maybe just Cunningham for Breland if some good players come out for the draft.
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myrtle
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Posted: 09/15/19 2:00 pm ::: |
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Has anything come out about Griner's injury?
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toad455
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Posted: 09/15/19 2:39 pm ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
Randy wrote: |
Zune - Breland for Cunningham and No. 5 seems more fair to me. Dream would be overpaying to give up Hayes for 5. This is a lousy draft. I could see some deal involving Williams or Montgomery though, but Merc. don't have many assets. to trade. Also - Don't want Y. Turner. |
Hmm....That's depends...If Carter and Sabally declared, that would deepen the draft. I'm also not sure if Phoenix would give up the #5 pk for a PF who only shot 38% from the field. |
I agree - depends on who comes out for the draft. Breland would probably do better on a team that has shooters and good passers. Phoenix does like experienced players, so it might take some adjustments to make a deal work.
BTW - B. Turner actually seems to fit pretty well on Phoenix next to Griner so they may just want a backup for her. Maybe just Cunningham for Breland if some good players come out for the draft. |
With the injuries to Lyttle & Smith, Brondello was forced to use B. Turner and play her at 4 instead of the 5 like she originally was planning. Mercury need a legit back-up center for Griner next season. Don't think Hebert is worth the #5 and they should go with a guard there(Charles? Copper? Pivec?)
PG: Mitchell/January
SG: YTurner/#5 pick/Cunningham
SF: Taurasi/Carson
PF: Bonner/BTurner/Smith
C: Griner/???
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 09/17/19 11:24 am ::: |
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At some point, Phoenix will have to replace January (33 in January) and Mitchell (35 next June).
Maybe this is the time to explore a trade for Moriah Jefferson.
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zune69
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Posted: 09/17/19 11:27 am ::: |
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Maybe this is the time to explore a trade for Moriah Jefferson. |
#5 pk for Jefferson & Harrison.
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Shades
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Posted: 09/17/19 11:49 am ::: |
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Here’s your dream team.
Mitchell/January
Taurasi/YTurner/Cunningham
Bonner/Carson
Petrovic/BTurner/Elena Bella Alarie
Griner/Smith
There’s no more Littles making relatively big salaries.
They probably should pay Mitchell after cutting her salary this year.
YTurner should be due for a raise.
Can they afford this roster? Probably not.
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myrtle
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Posted: 09/19/19 9:50 pm ::: |
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How about making a bid for Hawkins? It appears she's totally out of the rotation in Washington, so might be interested in playing somewhere where she would get more minutes.
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If only we’re brave enough to be it.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 09/19/19 10:23 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
How about making a bid for Hawkins? It appears she's totally out of the rotation in Washington, so might be interested in playing somewhere where she would get more minutes. |
Signed a below-market-value extension in Washington before the end of the season. So probably not going anywhere. |
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sportsfan48
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Posted: 09/20/19 12:19 am ::: |
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Only problem with this "confirmation" is that Bonner has been cored the max allowed under the current CBA. Unless that limit is changed. While I could see Bonner looking at offers, I don't think she would leave Phoenix without allowing the Mercury to get something in return. So, if she goes it could be in a sign and trade type deal. Phoenix has been good to her and her family and I don't see her turning her back on that.
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sportsfan48
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Posted: 09/20/19 1:10 am ::: |
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According to an article in azcentral by Jeff Metcalfe (I would link but don't know how) the Mercury only have 5 players signed for next season, DT, January, and the 3 rookies, Cunningham, Turner, and Smith.
Griner has said she will return. The article states that she had no "structural knee damage" in Chicago.
Bonner is free to sign with anyone and Phoenix can not stop it. Same with FLB. Both seem to like Phoenix and hopefully can be re-signed. Bonner owns a home here. Vonnie and Essence are free agents as well.
Will have to wait to see what happens.
As for the trade ideas. Re-signing our free agents has to be our top priority but after than we need a big before we need a guard.
You can find the article on azcentral.com under sports and Jeff Metcalfe.
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