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There has been a lot of discussion about how UConn has lost so much from last year. And they did lose a lot to graduation. But lets compare how the front court of Collier/Williams is doing so far. Tuck missed her sophomore season so the comparison will be those 2 in their junior years.

[list=]Year Players Min FG-Att 3PT FTs Pts Reb A Stl Blk (TO)
16-17 Collier/Williams 408 87-142 6-13 25-37 205- 97-45-27-18 (29)
14-15 Stewart/Tuck 398 82-163 14-43 37-48 215- 84-33-16- 9 (31)[/list]

Not such a difference as some would have you believe. (sorry for the crappy formatting)

Now admittedly there is more than some numbers in any meaningful comparison but it kind of belies the claims of some that UConn lost most of their talent/scoring.

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They're very good! UConn's front court is good! UConn's backcourt is good! UConn is good! If there's anyone who doesn't think so, they're wrong!

[cthskzfn]

I'll take Stewie and Tuck, thanks.

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[GlennMacGrady]

If Tuck had returned this season, would she have started? If so, who would she have started over?

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[bballjunkie]

She would have started over Collier, that was obvious last year. Collier benefits from the passing of Williams and KLS that's why she gets easy buckets, Collier needs to improve her court vision and passing as she misses players. She is good at what she does but lots of areas to improve. I also thought Williams did a much better job on Turner. It is obvious that teams are trying to take away KLS and Williams so other players are going to benefi, lucky Geno.

They showed a great game plan in second half taking away AOs left, note to other teams who have to play them.

[GlennMacGrady]

Counting Samuelson as a front court player, UConn has a much better front court than Notre Dame. The Irish have much better guards.

I'd say that at comparable stages of development, the UConn front court of Katie Lou Samuelson, Napheesa Collier and Gabby Willams is as good as, and maybe better than, Swin Cash, Asjha Jones and Tamika Williams.

Tuck would have started if her knee was healthy, but I can't decide whether she would have started over Williams or Collier. Forced, I'd say Collier starts with Williams being the energizer off the bench.

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[Nixtreefan]

Good points Glenn but for me Gabby Williams is better than Collier, she can actually see the floor and pass, she also gets the best interior defender of the other team just as KLS gets the best perimeter defender of the other team. Collier can make layups but she is getting those lay ups because of her teammates and the fact that the other 2 are being defended more closely. The other teams are unable to play help defense with KLS and Williams on the floor so Geno can spread them thin and run the O to make it an easy layup.

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Just because Williams is, in your opinion, better than Collier doesn't mean she'd start in the above Tuck scenario.

It's not as simple a decision as that, imo.

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[Nixtreefan]

Actually it is under this premise but the real question is whether Stevens will be able to play at Uconn level intensity as she did not show that type of intensity at Duke for whatever reason.

Williams is a better passer than Collier at this point, Collier tends to always look to score and she misses her team as she doesn't see the whole floor, even when someone is posting she hesitates and doesn't give them the ball, I don't think she is selfish, is she, but that doubt in her passing leads to missed opportunities. Williams has learned to make those passes which is why Collier gets easy buckets. IMO they are the same type of player, still undersized in the paint but quicker than most bigs but Williams has the edge due to her passing ability and how she sets screens.

In the LSU game their team guarded you straight up so Collier had to deal with someone just as athletic as she and she didnt have the luxury of being the third wheel where the D was keying on the other 2. She struggled in that game.

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[SDHoops]

Can you imagine that? UConn is already super good with a tight rotation. Next year they'll have athletes who can come in and play. My fellow UConn fans..could next year be the deepest Huskies team since 2001 pre-injuries? We're looking at 9 possibly 10 players who could play 20+ minutes next season. Also, players go to UConn with one goal in mind..if they wanted all the PT or stats, they'd have stayed put or went elsewhere.

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Guys, this thread has drifted off topic and it's my thread. Who starts next year is a great topic but better suited to the long boring off-season.

If you don't want to talk about this year's front court then post elsewhere. Thanks.

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