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ArtBest23
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 Posted: 05/31/16 3:55 pm ::: 2016 FIBA 3x3 U18 World Championships starts tomorrow |
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You can watch live. I think this is the location where you can find each day's live and archived games:
http://www.fiba.com/world/3x3u18/2016/videos
It should also be on the Youtube Fiba3x3 channel.
US team consists of Megan Walker, Sidney Cooks, Amber Ramirez and Jaelyn
Brown.
First game is vs Netherlands at 6:30AM, 2nd is vs Poland at 10AM (assuming I have the time zone conversion correct).
If the past is any indication, your best source of info will be the FIBA 3x3 site and Twitter feed, and USA basketball will virtually ignore this event.
Personally, I'm a fan of these 3x3 events. It's all about the game, and it's played for fun. So much of the usual baggage is absent. It's fun.
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 06/01/16 11:33 am ::: |
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| Excuse my error. The tournament started today, but the US pool play games are Thursday and Saturday.
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 06/01/16 12:38 pm ::: |
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| Megan Walker was the US rep in the skills competition prelims today. You start with a baseline jumper and she made it on the first shot (which is basically essential if you're going to have a good enough time to move on) but then she missed all three of her attempts on the bounce pass (through a target) and thus was disqualified. She wasn't alone in having a problem on the bounce pass, but most competitors made it without much of an issue. Unfortunate outcome. She can probably make that in her sleep most of the time.
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| Posted: 06/02/16 9:50 am ::: |
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| Netherlands crushes the United States 21-13, but in rosier news for the Americans, we managed to beat Poland while the Netherlands fell 12-11 to Kazakhstan.
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 06/02/16 10:40 am ::: |
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In a major shocker, the US got smoked in its first game by the Netherlands 21-13. They came back to beat Poland in the second, 21-15. They can thank Ramirez for that win; she drilled five 2 pointers (you get one point for a basket or free throw, two points from behind the arc). Walker is really quick and smooth, unfortunately she missed most of her layups. She's scored only 6 pts in two games, and Brown has only 3 pts total. Cooks has 11, Ramirez 14.
The US still has an excellent opportunity to advance from pool play because everyone in pool B is 1-1 after two games. Thankfully the Netherlands lost to a horrible host Kazakhstan team. Every other pool has two clear favorites to advance with the more typical two teams undefeated, two winless, one 1-1 after one day of play.
In pool A, a girl for the Czech Rep scored 17 pts in 7 minutes, including 7 two pointers. If you run into a buzzsaw like that, anybody can get beat. BTW, for those who have never watched, this is the game played on playgrounds everywhere. Half court basketball. On change of possession, have to take the ball back behind the arc. A game is ten minutes or first team to 21, whichever comes first. Very fast moving, one ref, no coaches allowed on the court. Three on three play, with one substitute, and most teams substitute regularly.
Most of the rest of the world relies heavily on 2pt shots. The US always seems to rely mostly on quickness and athleticism and getting to the rim. Thankfully this year Ramirez is an excellent outside shooter. I predict that she is going to light it up at TCU this fall, if she can get by the inevitable double and triple teams.
BTW, the US does not have a men's team in this U18 3x3 championships, but one of the players for New Zealand (6'9" Tai Wynyard) has signed to play with John Caliperi and Kentucky this fall.
The US girls play their final two games of pool play on Saturday.
It's really an entertaining game, and it's becoming a bigger deal elsewhere in the world. Doesn't seem to get much attention in the US, but it's definitely worth watching.
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GlennMacGrady
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| Posted: 06/02/16 2:09 pm ::: |
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Thanks for publicizing this competition.
I just watched the US-Netherlands game on YouTube, along with 190 other people in the entire world, and was unimpressed by the team and individual play, except for the Dutch ability to make arc shots.
Where have you gone Nneka-Chiney-O . . . .
I can't seem to find video for the US-Poland game. |
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 06/02/16 3:00 pm ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
Thanks for publicizing this competition.
I just watched the US-Netherlands game on YouTube, along with 190 other people in the entire world, and was unimpressed by the team and individual play, except for the Dutch ability to make arc shots.
Where have you gone Nneka-Chiney-O . . . .
I can't seem to find video for the US-Poland game. |
They don't break them out (except the game of the day), but they usually post the video of the entire day's action as one single game. The US-Poland game was the third to last game of the day today.
The ideal player for this in my years of following it was Jewell Loyd. She was made for this playground game with her quickness, jumping ability, ability to beat a defender 1-on-1 to the rim, and to shoot from the arc. Loyd, together with Cierra Burdick, Sara Hammond and Tiffany Mitchell went 8-0 and won the 2014 3x3 World Championship gold medal against players much older than them. Indeed, IIRC, Ann Wauters led Belgium to the Bronze in that tournament. I think Loyd was the high scorer for the entire tournament that year. She ate it up.
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awhom111
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| Posted: 06/02/16 9:01 pm ::: |
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| ArtBest23 wrote: |
In a major shocker, the US got smoked in its first game by the Netherlands 21-13. They came back to beat Poland in the second, 21-15. They can thank Ramirez for that win; she drilled five 2 pointers (you get one point for a basket or free throw, two points from behind the arc). Walker is really quick and smooth, unfortunately she missed most of her layups. She's scored only 6 pts in two games, and Brown has only 3 pts total. Cooks has 11, Ramirez 14.
The US still has an excellent opportunity to advance from pool play because everyone in pool B is 1-1 after two games. Thankfully the Netherlands lost to a horrible host Kazakhstan team. Every other pool has two clear favorites to advance with the more typical two teams undefeated, two winless, one 1-1 after one day of play.
In pool A, a girl for the Czech Rep scored 17 pts in 7 minutes, including 7 two pointers. If you run into a buzzsaw like that, anybody can get beat. BTW, for those who have never watched, this is the game played on playgrounds everywhere. Half court basketball. On change of possession, have to take the ball back behind the arc. A game is ten minutes or first team to 21, whichever comes first. Very fast moving, one ref, no coaches allowed on the court. Three on three play, with one substitute, and most teams substitute regularly.
Most of the rest of the world relies heavily on 2pt shots. The US always seems to rely mostly on quickness and athleticism and getting to the rim. Thankfully this year Ramirez is an excellent outside shooter. I predict that she is going to light it up at TCU this fall, if she can get by the inevitable double and triple teams.
BTW, the US does not have a men's team in this U18 3x3 championships, but one of the players for New Zealand (6'9" Tai Wynyard) has signed to play with John Caliperi and Kentucky this fall.
The US girls play their final two games of pool play on Saturday.
It's really an entertaining game, and it's becoming a bigger deal elsewhere in the world. Doesn't seem to get much attention in the US, but it's definitely worth watching. |
These games are fun to watch sometimes because they go quickly and the format allows for upsets.
For the record, Wynyard was already at Kentucky. He enrolled in January (because Oceania schooling runs calendar year) and redshirted the semester so he still has four years left. Famously, he and Isaac Humphries were the only Kentucky players to not be allowed to declare for the draft since they were too young. Of course, it turned out that not all of the eligible players declared because Calipari said it for publicity and not because it was actually going to happen.
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| Posted: 06/03/16 7:47 am ::: |
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Things I'm not used to seeing:
Egypt trouncing Turkey at Basketball. (Egypt won 21-6 against Turkey. So odd, Turkey just never was in the match.)
So sad that Egypt has no hope of advancing as Spain and New Zealand have wrapped up qualification from their group.
Earlier today, the Czech Republic barely escaped with a dramatic 16-15 win over Israel in order to qualify for the next round along with undefeated group champs Hungary.
No play for the Americans today, sadly.
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| Posted: 06/04/16 9:54 am ::: |
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Some 3x3 mixtapes to watch while awaiting this year's games.
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| Posted: 06/05/16 12:53 am ::: |
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USA wins twice today, finishes 3-1 in pool play.
USA 3-1
Italy 2-2
Netherlands 2-2
Kazakhstan 1-2
Poland 1-2
With Poland playing Kazakhstan now. So USA advances and then tie-breakers figure out which other team advances.
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| Posted: 06/05/16 1:00 am ::: |
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US cranked up the defense and won the next two games of pool play to win their group with a 3-1 record and move on to the elimination round. Still too many missed bunnies, and Ramirez was again the most effective on offense ( but also played excellent defense). Walker looks like the best player and has the best moves and smoothest game, but she keeps missing a ton of shots. Cooks was also key against Kazakhstan. Ramirez took over the Italy game towards the end with several key two point shots. I thought Brown played better today.
They had to finish pool play this morning local time because play was suspended for severe weather yesterday. They play elimination games later today.
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| Posted: 06/05/16 1:08 am ::: |
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Netherlands gets the other spot.
US plays China next, I believe.
It looks like the US half of the bracket is considerably easier than the other half.
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| Posted: 06/05/16 1:14 am ::: |
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One side of bracket:
Hungary plays Spain.
France plays Netherlands.
Other side:
USA plays China.
New Zealand plays Czech Republic.
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| Posted: 06/05/16 9:02 am ::: |
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| Congrats to the victors! Defensive lapses were common for the United States, and they tried to get physical in the end--but the undefeated march onwards to the trophy. Very impressed by how France played. Very impressive that France has won the tournament two years in a row against the United States.
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| Posted: 06/05/16 9:03 am ::: |
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France wins the gold, Gaye put on a clinic on footwork and post moves. USA at first was keeping it close with Ramirez 3's but that's all they had early on while France could get open shots with anyone. Walker was very physical defensively and got away with a lot of fouls, France could have easily shot more FTs. You take away a full court game where USA can't thrive in transition and run a full court press and you really see them bogged down in a halfcourt setting. The AAU environment doesn't really translate as well to a halfcourt game for team USA.
USA sent top players too, I don't know the France players but I wonder if they are the top kids in their country at their age group, or not. In Europe you can sign professionally early so would they only send amateur players to 3 on 3?
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| Posted: 06/05/16 10:52 am ::: |
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Slaughter in Kazakhstan. France easily beats USA in the final.
Gaye and Diane both looked much better than any of the USA players, and France played better defense. Gaye was literally unstoppable in the paint and was the high scorer in the women's tournament.
I watched four games. None of the USA players impressed me that much. Walker probably has the smoothest all-around game, but still her outside shot seemed sort of average and she's too short to be an impact paint player. |
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| Posted: 06/05/16 4:46 pm ::: |
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| Durantula wrote: |
France wins the gold, Gaye put on a clinic on footwork and post moves. USA at first was keeping it close with Ramirez 3's but that's all they had early on while France could get open shots with anyone. Walker was very physical defensively and got away with a lot of fouls, France could have easily shot more FTs. You take away a full court game where USA can't thrive in transition and run a full court press and you really see them bogged down in a halfcourt setting. The AAU environment doesn't really translate as well to a halfcourt game for team USA.
USA sent top players too, I don't know the France players but I wonder if they are the top kids in their country at their age group, or not. In Europe you can sign professionally early so would they only send amateur players to 3 on 3? |
They are reasonable prospects for their age, but none of them have much experience on their team's senior side.
The other interesting story at the tournament was on the men's side. Qatar won. A few years ago they naturalized a bunch of Bosnian prospects and this is the first fruit of that work. Poor Bosnia can never keep all of their players in any sport since most of them have ties to other countries. They did manage to win the European U16 Boy's Championship last year and had an unbelievable celebration.
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