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PostPosted: 11/20/14 9:24 am    ::: Re: UCONN Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
myrtle wrote:
So they looked vulnerable last night. Do they lose again this season? Analysis of team?

My thoughts are that
A) they have the best player in the country with Stewie...but even she clearly got discombobulated with the double teams last night. Surprising really but she needs to learn how to deal with those double/triple teams because they will be there all year. All the more because:

B) the rest of the team appear to be role players. And UConn is not used to having only one superstar. Pretty good role players but it means each has her own flaws:

C) we've analyzed KML to death - the sweetest shooter in the country but not much else; Chong is also great offensively but can't defend; Stokes can block shots but not much else; MoJeff (and I love MoJeff) can defend and distribute and against most teams her extreme speed gives her layups, but she's offensively challenged.

So on offense, they pretty much have three weapons, which means the other two defenders sag and help on those weapons. This brings them back into the fold of more 'normal' teams.

Will they lose again? Geno will have them motivated, but it's unclear if that's enough. Looking at their schedule, I'm guessing UND will give them a good run for their money but otherwise it will be smooth sailing. So Carolina has the weapons to do so as well, but it's unclear if they will get their guard act together.

Other thoughts?


Yes, Doris, UConn will lose again....maybe sooner than you want to believe.

UConn is no longer the shark in the tank that everybody fears. They are the prey. They have been bitten and there's blood in the water.



^^ I like that … but yeah they will definitely take a few losses this year.


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PostPosted: 11/20/14 9:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

RP wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
RP wrote:
Perhaps she became too comfortable camping out at the 3-point line after hitting 10 3s against UC Davis, but whatever the reason that was an unusual performance from KML.

For comparison, in UConn's last four tournament games, against BYU, Texas A&M, Stanford and Notre Dame, she scored 15 to 19 points every game while only making seven of 23 3-point attempts and averaged eight rebounds and 2.5 assists.

Clearly, she is capable of a lot more, at least at this level.


She scored 12 on Monday too. It's not like she was held scoreless.


I'm unsure of your point. 12 points, 1-of-6 2-pointers made, six rebounds and only one assist in 45 minutes is substantially less than what she usually provides.



He shouldn't play her 40 min a game. She's physically incapable of it and can't guard my grandmother. May be harsh, but she needs to tone up … Wonder how much she's gained since freshman year.


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PostPosted: 11/20/14 10:50 am    ::: Disagree Reply Reply with quote

[quote="Howee"][quote="myrtle"]that game will have some of the heaviest tape rewinds/perusals of any game this year...[b]by both teams[/b]....[/quote]

One thing that floored me in a re-watch: the absolute idiocy of Karli Samuelson's action with 3 seconds left to play (you can see it on ESPN's highlight clip). The inbounds pass goes to her, she's defended, anddd....she passes the ball [b]back toward the basket![/b]...with Breanna in the vicinity. NOT bright. Fortunately, she was fouled, but that could have been unforgiveable IFFF....

Sometimes it's tough (but necessary) to remember that these ARE still "kids", after all. Laughing[/quote]

I just watched the games several times, the clock was running out and Uconn had to foul, the player she she was passing to was open, she was also their best free throw shooter and Stewie was not in a position to steal, in fact Mo was in a better place but was also just going for the foul, so why not run off more clock than give any time for a possession to Uconn.


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PostPosted: 11/21/14 3:41 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I have watched Wink

Orrange has always over dribbled and not passed early enough, she also dribbled toward the player she is passing to and takes her defender into their space, as does Thompson. If you watch the game they dribble so much I think Uconn looks dizzy. They had people open on the weak side but they can't make the pass. Orrange is also very left handed and Hartley would keep her on her right hand and frustrate her but Uconn seemed to forget that last night. None of their shots were challenged from the outside, even the 3 by Orrange as the defense were flying out at Samuelson but she read the defense perfectly and passed to a wide open Orrange.

The key is to give them a few feet as they hesitate and look to drive NOT pass and cut off their path, getting up too close was the problem. Last year the teams that sent a double created havoc for both of them as they are NOT pass first players.


For someone who is not a pass first player, Amber Orrange sure has a lot of assists. She has had over 100 assists in each of her first 3 seasons, with her lowest total being 112, her freshman year. She was 2nd in the Pac-12 in assists last season and 4.7 assists. She can also finish her time at Stanford in the top 5 in career assists.

I think Amber is good at knowing when she needs to attack and when to pass. Of course with the new offense she is still learning, and I think her timing and comfortability on the court will come in time.


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PostPosted: 11/21/14 1:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

They miss Hartley a lot. KML doesn't have the offensive versatility to be effective as the #2 scorer.



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PostPosted: 11/21/14 2:20 pm    ::: Agree Reply Reply with quote

[quote="GEF34"][quote="bballjunkie"]I have watched Wink

Orrange has always over dribbled and not passed early enough, she also dribbled toward the player she is passing to and takes her defender into their space, as does Thompson. If you watch the game they dribble so much I think Uconn looks dizzy. They had people open on the weak side but they can't make the pass. Orrange is also very left handed and Hartley would keep her on her right hand and frustrate her but Uconn seemed to forget that last night. None of their shots were challenged from the outside, even the 3 by Orrange as the defense were flying out at Samuelson but she read the defense perfectly and passed to a wide open Orrange.

The key is to give them a few feet as they hesitate and look to drive NOT pass and cut off their path, getting up too close was the problem. Last year the teams that sent a double created havoc for both of them as they are NOT pass first players.[/quote]

For someone who is not a pass first player, Amber Orrange sure has a lot of assists. She has had over 100 assists in each of her first 3 seasons, with her lowest total being 112, her freshman year. She was 2nd in the Pac-12 in assists last season and 4.7 assists. She can also finish her time at Stanford in the top 5 in career assists.

I think Amber is good at knowing when she needs to attack and when to pass. Of course with the new offense she is still learning, and I think her timing and comfortability on the court will come in time.[/quote]

I have to agree with you, Stanford missed her when she was in foul trouble against Texas as Thompson tends to be the one over dribbling and using up a lot of clock.


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PostPosted: 11/21/14 2:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

my 2c

Last year was the best coaching job in basketball history in Geno not losing despite having only 9 actives at one point. Not only did they win, they won big.

That being said, this team more than any other UConn team in the post 95 era seems to be vurnerable in nip and tuck games. I don't say that just from this game but the sweet 16 game against a very game BYU team as well that only turned into a standard UConn game in the middle of the 3rd when they got hamson out on fouls.

Im not going to go player by player because honestly that's not it...They have stewie and I have more respect for Stokes and KML than others, but there are cracks showing. I agree that there is not much defense to be had out of chong. Stem to stern UConn may still be the best, but the gap isn't where they can coast to 25 pt victories vs a middle of the rankings team like they have for the majority of the past 7 years.

Are they still a #1 seed...yes...can they reclaim #1 overall....possibly tho ND and SC may have something to say about it and with such a low SOS thanks to the AAC...you may very well have an issue should they lose there. Especially if Stanford hits some growing pains.

Geno can figure this out...easily...he's done more with less. and I agree that this pause can be beneficial...but there is less margin for error than there was in the past thanks to the lack of bottom of the ranking type teams in the AAC (in the past UConn could counter a loss to a Stanford by winning convincingly against Rutgers and other 15-25 teams in the midpack of the old Big East) Beating up on SMU just doesn't have the same ring to it...

So panic...absolutely not, this is a final four team until when and if they're eliminated from the tourney.

But they cannot afford another mistake not even to ND



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PostPosted: 11/21/14 3:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I agree pretty much with HappyC here.

UConn hasn't a lot of room for mistakes from here on out. If, which I don't expect to happen, they lose to both Notre Dame and South Carolina, then they would have little to show to get a #1 seed. That would be the most amazing result of the year. I can tell you nobody but nobody would want to be the #1 seed in a bracket where UConn was #2! If, on the other hand, they beat both, then they are probably #1 overall again. So let's say they beat one convincingly and lose to the other - what then? They're probably still a #1 seed as long as they win out otherwise.



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PostPosted: 11/21/14 3:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
They miss Hartley a lot. KML doesn't have the offensive versatility to be effective as the #2 scorer.


#2? She was the #1 scorer for CT her freshman and sophomore years and while hurt a good deal of last season she still averaged one pt less than Stewart in the NCAA's.

KML may well end up the No 1 scorer for UConn this year which would mean 3 out of her 4 years. Hartley was never either the first or second scoring option for UConn except last year when Lewis was out, hurt.

Geno has said many times that he wants Lewis to shoot whenever she has one. He never said that about Hartley.


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PostPosted: 11/21/14 4:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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My point was that 12 pts wasn't that many fewer than 15 you mentioned, and if she made a total of seven 3s in four games, that's an average of slightly fewer than the 2 she made Monday. I don't think Monday was all that different than the average of the four tournament games you presented.


Fifteen is the lowest amount I mentioned and still a 25% increase, which would have been enough to beat Stanford.

KML was 20-of-38 inside the arc in those four games. I only pointed out her 3-point totals to show that she is capable of being a big scorer even with those shots falling at a low percentage.


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PostPosted: 11/21/14 10:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Happycappie25 wrote:
That being said, this team more than any other UConn team in the post 95 era seems to be vurnerable in nip and tuck games. I don't say that just from this game but the sweet 16 game against a very game BYU team as well that only turned into a standard UConn game in the middle of the 3rd when they got hamson out on fouls.


Hmm. I'm thinking the Strother teams might have been in the same category.

Anyway, I agree with the main point, and with the suggestion that UConn can't really afford a lot of stumbles (maybe even more than one more stumble) if they want a #1 seed.


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PostPosted: 11/22/14 1:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

beknighted wrote:
Happycappie25 wrote:
That being said, this team more than any other UConn team in the post 95 era seems to be vurnerable in nip and tuck games. I don't say that just from this game but the sweet 16 game against a very game BYU team as well that only turned into a standard UConn game in the middle of the 3rd when they got hamson out on fouls.


Hmm. I'm thinking the Strother teams might have been in the same category.

Anyway, I agree with the main point, and with the suggestion that UConn can't really afford a lot of stumbles (maybe even more than one more stumble) if they want a #1 seed.


Yep. Strothers/Turner et. al. were veritable *slump* years at Storrs.

The thing that struck me most at Maples? UConn always gets *up* for Big Games. Yes, ANY team can have a bad game. Every 3rd Blue Moon, even UConn can (....didn't one of Maya's years see them nearly lose to DePaul?). And maybe this was UConn's 'dud' for the season. But I just didn't get that from the overall picture: they looked too vulnerable at too many positions, against a Stanford team that was NOT one of Tara's best ever.

I can't imagine that they'll drop below a 2 seed, but even if they earn a 1, I doubt it'll be of the caliber as the last couple of #1s they've earned.



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PostPosted: 11/22/14 6:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Howee wrote:
beknighted wrote:
Happycappie25 wrote:
That being said, this team more than any other UConn team in the post 95 era seems to be vurnerable in nip and tuck games. I don't say that just from this game but the sweet 16 game against a very game BYU team as well that only turned into a standard UConn game in the middle of the 3rd when they got hamson out on fouls.


Hmm. I'm thinking the Strother teams might have been in the same category.

Anyway, I agree with the main point, and with the suggestion that UConn can't really afford a lot of stumbles (maybe even more than one more stumble) if they want a #1 seed.


Yep. Strothers/Turner et. al. were veritable *slump* years at Storrs.

The thing that struck me most at Maples? UConn always gets *up* for Big Games. Yes, ANY team can have a bad game. Every 3rd Blue Moon, even UConn can (....didn't one of Maya's years see them nearly lose to DePaul?). And maybe this was UConn's 'dud' for the season. But I just didn't get that from the overall picture: they looked too vulnerable at too many positions, against a Stanford team that was NOT one of Tara's best ever.

I can't imagine that they'll drop below a 2 seed, but even if they earn a 1, I doubt it'll be of the caliber as the last couple of #1s they've earned.

I believe that UConn will earn a 1-seed this year, mostly because teams usually lose more games than you expect them to lose, and a UConn team with even 3 losses will get a 1-seed because of the strength of their OOC schedule. This season, with its apparent parity, should have 1-seed(s) with 4 or more losses. (I also will be surprised if UConn loses 2 more games.)

That said, UConn hasn't had the strongest 1-seeds lately, Howee. I agree that last season they were the top 1-seed, but the previous 2 seasons, they were the 3rd 1-seed behind Baylor and Notre Dame. Of course it doesn't really matter which 1-seed you get, because the committee usually doesn't pair the best 1-seed with the lowest 2-seed anyway. I suppose the top 1-seed does get the benefit of facing the weakest 1-seed in the FF, which can be advantageous, but if your aspirations are winning the NC, then your seed matters little.


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PostPosted: 11/22/14 9:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
pilight wrote:
They miss Hartley a lot. KML doesn't have the offensive versatility to be effective as the #2 scorer.


#2? She was the #1 scorer for CT her freshman and sophomore years and while hurt a good deal of last season she still averaged one pt less than Stewart in the NCAA's.

KML may well end up the No 1 scorer for UConn this year which would mean 3 out of her 4 years. Hartley was never either the first or second scoring option for UConn except last year when Lewis was out, hurt.

Geno has said many times that he wants Lewis to shoot whenever she has one. He never said that about Hartley.


I don't think Pilight was disputing KML's scoring ability, but rather saying her offensive skill set isn't as diversified as Hartley's. KML is an outstanding 3pt shooter and midrange shooter, but Hartley could knock down 3's, midrange shots, create her own shot and slash to the basket. Something that was sorely missed during the Stanford game.


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PostPosted: 11/22/14 3:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Iluvacc wrote:
linkster wrote:
pilight wrote:
They miss Hartley a lot. KML doesn't have the offensive versatility to be effective as the #2 scorer.


#2? She was the #1 scorer for CT her freshman and sophomore years and while hurt a good deal of last season she still averaged one pt less than Stewart in the NCAA's.

KML may well end up the No 1 scorer for UConn this year which would mean 3 out of her 4 years. Hartley was never either the first or second scoring option for UConn except last year when Lewis was out, hurt.

Geno has said many times that he wants Lewis to shoot whenever she has one. He never said that about Hartley.


I don't think Pilight was disputing KML's scoring ability, but rather saying her offensive skill set isn't as diversified as Hartley's. KML is an outstanding 3pt shooter and midrange shooter, but Hartley could knock down 3's, midrange shots, create her own shot and slash to the basket. Something that was sorely missed during the Stanford game.


Plight said KML "doesn't have the offensive versatility to be effective as the #2 scorer". I pointed out that she has been the #1 scorer except during her injury. There seems to be an idea that Lewis is strictly a 3 point specialist. That is simply not true.

KML's 3 point shooting is far better than Hartley's. Shooting %'s aside, Hartley shot most of her 3's when she was uncovered. She was often left uncovered on the arc due to the opposition's emphasis on covering Lewis.

Hartley was a better driver by far but KML was outstanding posting up low. That's a wash. And finally Hartley suffered from that common problem in wcbb, missing layups. Lewis was outstanding in close. Her bunny shots go in.

What I loved about Hartley was her willingness to take shots late in close games and the fact that she made a bunch of 'big' shots. But she was never either the first or second option on offense except for the 12 games Lewis missed last year.


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PostPosted: 11/22/14 4:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Fighting Artichoke wrote:
Howee wrote:
beknighted wrote:
Happycappie25 wrote:
That being said, this team more than any other UConn team in the post 95 era seems to be vurnerable in nip and tuck games. I don't say that just from this game but the sweet 16 game against a very game BYU team as well that only turned into a standard UConn game in the middle of the 3rd when they got hamson out on fouls.


Hmm. I'm thinking the Strother teams might have been in the same category.

Anyway, I agree with the main point, and with the suggestion that UConn can't really afford a lot of stumbles (maybe even more than one more stumble) if they want a #1 seed.


Yep. Strothers/Turner et. al. were veritable *slump* years at Storrs.

The thing that struck me most at Maples? UConn always gets *up* for Big Games. Yes, ANY team can have a bad game. Every 3rd Blue Moon, even UConn can (....didn't one of Maya's years see them nearly lose to DePaul?). And maybe this was UConn's 'dud' for the season. But I just didn't get that from the overall picture: they looked too vulnerable at too many positions, against a Stanford team that was NOT one of Tara's best ever.

I can't imagine that they'll drop below a 2 seed, but even if they earn a 1, I doubt it'll be of the caliber as the last couple of #1s they've earned.

I believe that UConn will earn a 1-seed this year, mostly because teams usually lose more games than you expect them to lose, and a UConn team with even 3 losses will get a 1-seed because of the strength of their OOC schedule. This season, with its apparent parity, should have 1-seed(s) with 4 or more losses. (I also will be surprised if UConn loses 2 more games.)

That said, UConn hasn't had the strongest 1-seeds lately, Howee. I agree that last season they were the top 1-seed, but the previous 2 seasons, they were the 3rd 1-seed behind Baylor and Notre Dame. Of course it doesn't really matter which 1-seed you get, because the committee usually doesn't pair the best 1-seed with the lowest 2-seed anyway. I suppose the top 1-seed does get the benefit of facing the weakest 1-seed in the FF, which can be advantageous, but if your aspirations are winning the NC, then your seed matters little.


I doubt if that's correct. The reality is that they only play six real games all year (Stanford, ND, DePaul, UCLA, Duke and S Car, and if UCLA doesn't turn things around, that number could shrink to 5.) I doubt there is any chance they can drop 3 of those six and still get a 1 seed because wins over Houston and SMU aren't going to offset those losses.

This "such a tough OOC schedule" thing is exaggerated. Yes there are some very difficult games but very few of them. If they had won all if them it would be enough when added to the 25 walkovers. But they've already lost one, and I doubt they can afford to lose more than one more and still expect a one seed.

The teams they will be competing against will have good OOC wins PLUS good conference wins, and likely good conference tournament wins right before selection day. UConn only has one game in which to impress after New Years Day and none the last six weeks of the season. Their RPI will not be competitive with the other potential 1s.

They have to win.

Of course, silly me, I'm ignoring the Geno Bonus. You're right, they can probably lose all six and still get a one.


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I doubt if that's correct. The reality is that they only play six real games all year (Stanford, ND, DePaul, UCLA, Duke and S Car, and if UCLA doesn't turn things around, that number could shrink to 5.) I doubt there is any chance they can drop 3 of those six and still get a 1 seed because wins over Houston and SMU aren't going to offset those losses.

This "such a tough OOC schedule" thing is exaggerated. Yes there are some very difficult games but very few of them. If they had won all if them it would be enough when added to the 25 walkovers. But they've already lost one, and I doubt they can afford to lose more than one more and still expect a one seed.

The teams they will be competing against will have good OOC wins PLUS good conference wins, and likely good conference tournament wins right before selection day. UConn only has one game in which to impress after New Years Day and none the last six weeks of the season. Their RPI will not be competitive with the other potential 1s.

They have to win.

Of course, silly me, I'm ignoring the Geno Bonus. You're right, they can probably lose all six and still get a one.



Your right about their schedule but what will exceed the whining from their fans if they get a 2 or even a 3 seed will be the whining from the fans of whoever is the 1 seed in their region.

And as I see it, UConn has 4 games against top 10 teams, Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame and South Carolina. Notre Dame has top 10 games against Connecticut, Maryland, Tennessee and Duke. Even Steven as far as elite games.

Those home and away games with Boston College and Syracuse this season won't remind anyone of the ones the Irish had with the Huskies. Nor prepare the Irish much for the NCAA's.


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linkster wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:

I doubt if that's correct. The reality is that they only play six real games all year (Stanford, ND, DePaul, UCLA, Duke and S Car, and if UCLA doesn't turn things around, that number could shrink to 5.) I doubt there is any chance they can drop 3 of those six and still get a 1 seed because wins over Houston and SMU aren't going to offset those losses.

This "such a tough OOC schedule" thing is exaggerated. Yes there are some very difficult games but very few of them. If they had won all if them it would be enough when added to the 25 walkovers. But they've already lost one, and I doubt they can afford to lose more than one more and still expect a one seed.

The teams they will be competing against will have good OOC wins PLUS good conference wins, and likely good conference tournament wins right before selection day. UConn only has one game in which to impress after New Years Day and none the last six weeks of the season. Their RPI will not be competitive with the other potential 1s.

They have to win.

Of course, silly me, I'm ignoring the Geno Bonus. You're right, they can probably lose all six and still get a one.



Your right about their schedule but what will exceed the whining from their fans if they get a 2 or even 1 3 will be the whining from the fans of whoever is the 1 seed.

And as I see it, UConn has 4 games against top 10 teams, Stanford, Duke, Notre Dame and South Carolina. Notre Dame has top 10 games against Connecticut, Maryland, Tennessee and Duke. Even Steven as far as elite games.

Those home and away games with Boston College and Syracuse this season won't remind anyone of the ones the Irish had with the Huskies. Nor prepare the Irish much for the NCAA's.


Right. It's "even" . 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Even you can't say that with a straight face. Both teams play UCLA and DePaul. And UConn plays, let's see, Temple, and Cincy, and SMU, and Memphis and . . .well, you get the idea, while ND beat Mich St, and plays Louisville, and UNC, and Syracuse, and FSU, and GaTech and then a couple of them again in the ACC tournament.

What a fraud. You conveniently lop off #11 UNC and #12 Louisville, and ignore the ACC tourney, in order to strain to make a non-existent "point". Does UConn play anyone else in the top 100? You'll probably need a chiropracter after those contortions.

Even. Yeah. Thanks for the laugh.


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PostPosted: 11/22/14 8:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Every year, hear the same argument, SOS due to being in a weak conference will cause the demise of UCONN, no recruits will go there, won't prepare them for the Touranament. I think I'll take my chances with Geno and his motley crew to win it all again despite all the perilous prognostications. 47-1 with a NC while in the AAC still attracting elite recruits. Where do I sign.

Michelle Voepel said it best, it is not about the conference or the schedule it is about the coach and the Program.



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What a fraud. You conveniently lop off #11 UNC and #12 Louisville, and ignore the ACC tourney, in order to strain to make a non-existent "point". Does UConn play anyone else in the top 100? You'll probably need a chiropracter after those contortions.

Even. Yeah. Thanks for the laugh.


Here's what I said, nothing more. "Even Steven as far as elite games."

And you sang this same tune last year.


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PUmatty wrote:
I think it was Pilight who asked the question: Why would the losses of Dolson and Bria Hartley not affect the team?


There is really not much more to discuss than this. You're trying to replace the screening and ball distribution out of the high post from Dolson and the dribble penetration ability from Hartley with players who simply can't do those things. I get that it's fun to talk about the demise of the elite program that hasn't lost a game in forever, but in this case the team just isn't as good as it was last year. It happens.

That said, I wouldn't count on KML shooting so poorly that often.


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linkster wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:



What a fraud. You conveniently lop off #11 UNC and #12 Louisville, and ignore the ACC tourney, in order to strain to make a non-existent "point". Does UConn play anyone else in the top 100? You'll probably need a chiropracter after those contortions.

Even. Yeah. Thanks for the laugh.


Here's what I said, nothing more. "Even Steven as far as elite games."

And you sang this same tune last year.


But you know as well as I do that's a total lie. Louisville is elite. UNC is elite. And ND will play two of Duke or Louisville or UNC a second time in the ACC tourney which puts even ND's so-called elite number at double UConn's. Same calculus for SCar and Tenn. Not to mention all the other real games those teams play you desperately want to ignore.

Just be honest for once. This crap would be a big hit with your buddy Tribble on the College Trolls Only site. But try sticking to the subject here.

The issue was how many more losses UConn can afford given its total POS schedule. So come on, tell us your number and justify it. Go ahead. Discuss the issue and stop trolling.


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PostPosted: 11/22/14 9:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Every year, hear the same argument, SOS due to being in a weak conference will cause the demise of UCONN, no recruits will go there, won't prepare them for the Touranament. I think I'll take my chances with Geno and his motley crew to win it all again despite all the perilous prognostications. 47-1 with a NC while in the AAC still attracting elite recruits. Where do I sign.

Michelle Voepel said it best, it is not about the conference or the schedule it is about the coach and the Program.


That's not the point of the discussion at all. The ONLY thing being discussed was how many more losses can UConn have and still be a one seed. So why all the histrionics about recruiting or anything else?


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ArtBest23 wrote:
Oldfandepot2 wrote:
Every year, hear the same argument, SOS due to being in a weak conference will cause the demise of UCONN, no recruits will go there, won't prepare them for the Touranament. I think I'll take my chances with Geno and his motley crew to win it all again despite all the perilous prognostications. 47-1 with a NC while in the AAC still attracting elite recruits. Where do I sign.

Michelle Voepel said it best, it is not about the conference or the schedule it is about the coach and the Program.


That's not the point of the discussion at all. The ONLY thing being discussed was how many more losses can UConn have and still be a one seed. So why all the histrionics about recruiting or anything else?


Art, did you ever think that every post is not a retort to you. Hello. Histrionic? One of the first things I was taught in the very first history class in college simply because b follows a doesn't mean a caused or created b. Geez. Lighten up.



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ArtBest23 wrote:

That's not the point of the discussion at all. The ONLY thing being discussed was how many more losses can UConn have and still be a one seed. So why all the histrionics about recruiting or anything else?


I read the OP and saw 4 questions.

Do they lose again this season?

Analysis of team?

Will they lose again?

Other thoughts?

2 are redundant and ask if they lose again. One asks for team analysis and one is about as open ended as it gets. I saw nothing about seeding.

Reading is fundamental. LOL


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