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TheLoneGranger



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PostPosted: 06/24/14 9:25 pm    ::: UCONN articles and video Reply Reply with quote

Sources: USA Hoops In Bridgeport; UConn Women At Mohegan Sun (also orking at putting a non-conference game, mostly likely against a west coast team like UCLA, USC or Gonzaga, into the Mohegan Sun Arena in December 2014)
courantblogs.com/uconn-women/sources-usa-hoops-in-bridgeport-uconn-women-at-mohegan-sun/

UConn staff getting job done in recruiting
snyuconn.com/uconn/uconn-staff-getting-job-done-in-recruiting/

CAN - Nurse draws on U17 experience ahead of Turkish challenge
www.fiba.com/world/women/2014/news/CAN-Nurse-draws-on-U17-experience-ahead-of-Turkish-challen#

Kerith Burke talks with UConn women's basketball coach Geno Auriemma, following the team's undefeated championship season.
web.sny.tv/media/video.jsp?topic_id=21533978&content_id=33983677


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PostPosted: 06/24/14 11:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Would I be correct in assuming that no sports betting is permitted at the Mohegan Sun?

Jim


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PostPosted: 06/25/14 3:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

CannonVol wrote:
Would I be correct in assuming that no sports betting is permitted at the Mohegan Sun?

Jim


While the arena is attached to the Mohegan Sun casino, the facility does not accept any form of sports wagering or sports booking; in fact, sports betting is illegal in Connecticut.

The multi-purpose facility has hosted a wide variety of events; including the American Kennel Club, concerts from major Classical, Country, Jazz, Metal, Rap, Rock, and Pop acts, as well as sporting events such as WWE shows, PBR events, Bellator, NCAA games, PBA tournaments, UFC bouts, World's Strongest Man Super Series Competition.

Major network and cable television broadcasting companies, including CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, ESPN and CNN have all produced events through this arena. Per Wikipedia


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PostPosted: 06/25/14 3:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

CannonVol wrote:
Would I be correct in assuming that no sports betting is permitted at the Mohegan Sun?

Jim


I hope you understand that bookies are only a phone call away at any arena in the country? Why would on-site gambling in say, Las Vegas, be different? Removing sanctions against sports gambling is not the same as endorsing it.

There's an endless discussion on ways to make wcbb more popular. The 2 most popular (and most profitable) college sports are football and men's basketball which coincidentally are the 2 of most heavily wagered sports in the country. Put in a few wagering booths at wcbb games and watch attendance go up.

Sports gambling is the 800 pound gorilla that the NCAA never sees as they cash the checks.


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PostPosted: 06/25/14 10:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
CannonVol wrote:
Would I be correct in assuming that no sports betting is permitted at the Mohegan Sun?

Jim


I hope you understand that bookies are only a phone call away at any arena in the country? Why would on-site gambling in say, Las Vegas, be different? Removing sanctions against sports gambling is not the same as endorsing it.

There's an endless discussion on ways to make wcbb more popular. The 2 most popular (and most profitable) college sports are football and men's basketball which coincidentally are the 2 of most heavily wagered sports in the country. Put in a few wagering booths at wcbb games and watch attendance go up.

Sports gambling is the 800 pound gorilla that the NCAA never sees as they cash the checks.


So so true ... the hypocrisy is pretty much off the charts, as with everything NCAA.

But along that line, if more people bet on women's basketball, it would get a lot more media coverage. Maybe that's the campaign we need: The WNBA -- a bettor's paradise.



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CannonVol



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PostPosted: 06/26/14 8:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I wasn't suggesting any irregularity. I just remembered something about an NCAA regional having to be moved from New Jersey because of sports betting having been approved in the state. Since my understanding of the Mohegan Sun is that it is an Indian Reservation facility (if I am wrong in this understanding, please let me know), state laws would not apply and I was unsure of the status of sports betting.

Jim


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PostPosted: 06/26/14 10:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

CannonVol wrote:
I wasn't suggesting any irregularity. I just remembered something about an NCAA regional having to be moved from New Jersey because of sports betting having been approved in the state. Since my understanding of the Mohegan Sun is that it is an Indian Reservation facility (if I am wrong in this understanding, please let me know), state laws would not apply and I was unsure of the status of sports betting.

Jim


While it is a reservation, there was an agreement with the state. Sports gambling is prohibited unless the state removes sanctions against it.

In any case the NCAA only controls the games it sponsors (NCAA's). There have been several college conference tournaments in Vegas and the AAC tournament at Mohegan Sun went over quite well this past March.


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PostPosted: 06/26/14 11:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
CannonVol wrote:
I wasn't suggesting any irregularity. I just remembered something about an NCAA regional having to be moved from New Jersey because of sports betting having been approved in the state. Since my understanding of the Mohegan Sun is that it is an Indian Reservation facility (if I am wrong in this understanding, please let me know), state laws would not apply and I was unsure of the status of sports betting.

Jim


While it is a reservation, there was an agreement with the state. Sports gambling is prohibited unless the state removes sanctions against it.

In any case the NCAA only controls the games it sponsors (NCAA's). There have been several college conference tournaments in Vegas and the AAC tournament at Mohegan Sun went over quite well this past March.


Actually it is illegal under Federal law because of the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992. When New Jersey tried two years ago to ignore that and permit a sports book in Atlantic City, a Federal Court issued an injunction blocking that effort, the 3rd Circuit subsequently affirmed that decision, and just this week the Supreme Court let the injunction stand. http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/justices-rebuff-njs-effort-sports-betting-24260379 The law has some narrow exceptions to allow sports betting in Nevada, sports pools in a couple states, and betting on jai lai and horse and dog racing.

But unless Congress repeals the law, there won't be sports betting in NJ or Connecticut.


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PostPosted: 06/27/14 11:41 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
linkster wrote:
CannonVol wrote:
I wasn't suggesting any irregularity. I just remembered something about an NCAA regional having to be moved from New Jersey because of sports betting having been approved in the state. Since my understanding of the Mohegan Sun is that it is an Indian Reservation facility (if I am wrong in this understanding, please let me know), state laws would not apply and I was unsure of the status of sports betting.

Jim


While it is a reservation, there was an agreement with the state. Sports gambling is prohibited unless the state removes sanctions against it.

In any case the NCAA only controls the games it sponsors (NCAA's). There have been several college conference tournaments in Vegas and the AAC tournament at Mohegan Sun went over quite well this past March.


Actually it is illegal under Federal law because of the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992. When New Jersey tried two years ago to ignore that and permit a sports book in Atlantic City, a Federal Court issued an injunction blocking that effort, the 3rd Circuit subsequently affirmed that decision, and just this week the Supreme Court let the injunction stand. http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/justices-rebuff-njs-effort-sports-betting-24260379 The law has some narrow exceptions to allow sports betting in Nevada, sports pools in a couple states, and betting on jai lai and horse and dog racing.

But unless Congress repeals the law, there won't be sports betting in NJ or Connecticut.



Hard to see how congress can give one state a monopoly. Doesn't seem to jive with a free market. Especially when the level of illegal sports betting across the country dwarfs anything in Las Vegas. To me it only protects organized crime's market. What if congress passed a law that movies can only be shown in Kansas? Or that bowling only be allowed in N Dakota?

People spend their money on all sorts of entertainment.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/think-sports-gambling-isnt-big-money-wanna-bet-f6C10634316

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Sports book operators estimate $80 million to $90 million less than 4 percent of the illegal take is wagered on the NCAA tournament legally through Nevadas 216sports books, says the AGA.


All congress is doing is making a large segment of the country criminals.


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PostPosted: 06/27/14 12:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:


Hard to see how congress can give one state a monopoly.


Actually, it's very easy to see. It's not even a close call.

Here, you can read the Third Circuit's decision. It's very thorough. On this particular point read pages 94-103.

http://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/131713p.pdf

That you might not like the policy choice Congress made doesn't make it unconstitutional. Your remedy is go out and get other people elected to Congress who share your point of view.


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PostPosted: 06/27/14 1:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
linkster wrote:


Hard to see how congress can give one state a monopoly.


Actually, it's very easy to see. It's not even a close call.

Here, you can read the Third Circuit's decision. It's very thorough. On this particular point read pages 94-103.

http://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/131713p.pdf

That you might not like the policy choice Congress made doesn't make it unconstitutional. Your remedy is go out and get other people elected to Congress who share your point of view.



I have no interest in promoting sports gambling. Haven't in over 30 years. The 81 SB cured me. Crying or Very sad

Your link explains the legal rationale behind the decision. I'm not a lawyer so the complex precedents cited are just jibber jabber to me. My experience is that with respect to morality laws judges decide based on factors "outside the legal issues" and then find a justification in the law.
My comment was a sociological POV, that sanctioning a behavior generally occurring across the country by a major segment of the population is a losing proposition and does more harm than good.


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PostPosted: 06/27/14 1:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't believe Linkster was arguing the constitutionality of the decision but rather it's fairness. Just as the court was not considering fairness but only the constitutionality.

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Sorry, Link. I posted before I saw your reply.


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PostPosted: 06/27/14 2:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
My experience is that with respect to morality laws judges decide based on factors "outside the legal issues" and then find a justification in the law.
My comment was a sociological POV, that sanctioning a behavior generally occurring across the country by a major segment of the population is a losing proposition and does more harm than good.


Exactly the opposite. If anything it appears the Third Circuit sympathizes with your policy view. As the Court itself said:

"We are cognizant that certain questions related to this casewhether gambling on sporting events is harmful to the games integrity and whether states should be permitted to license and profit from the activityengender strong views. But we are not asked to judge the wisdom of PASPA or of New Jerseys law, or of the desirability of the activities they seek to regulate. We speak only to the legality of these measures as a matter of constitutional law. . . .

It is not our place to usurp Congress role simply because PASPA may have become an unpopular law. The forty-nine states that do not enjoy PASPAs solicitude may easily invoke Congress authority should they so desire."


It's Congress, not the courts, that set these rules. All the courts did was enforce them as written. Whether the law is good policy or not, it's not ambiguous.

It's certainly far from the only "behavior" that Congress has seen fit to prohibit or regulate. As I said, if people don't like what Congress does, then let them know you don't like it, and don't keep re-electing them.


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PostPosted: 07/06/14 2:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

TheLoneGranger wrote:
CannonVol wrote:
Would I be correct in assuming that no sports betting is permitted at the Mohegan Sun?

Jim


While the arena is attached to the Mohegan Sun casino, the facility does not accept any form of sports wagering or sports booking; in fact, sports betting is illegal in Connecticut.

The multi-purpose facility has hosted a wide variety of events; including the American Kennel Club, concerts from major Classical, Country, Jazz, Metal, Rap, Rock, and Pop acts, as well as sporting events such as WWE shows, PBR events, Bellator, NCAA games, PBA tournaments, UFC bouts, World's Strongest Man Super Series Competition.

Major network and cable television broadcasting companies, including CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, ESPN and CNN have all produced events through this arena. Per Wikipedia
add CT High School Basketball Championships to the list


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PostPosted: 07/30/14 12:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Morgan Tuck's hardship waiver was approved today.

She has three years remaining to play.


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