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RedEqualsLuck
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dtsnms
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That's messed up. Makes no sense IMO.
UNC loses to then #6 Maryland and falls behind now #1 Duke who they beat, while Maryland is one spot behind UNC.
Tenn. loses AT HOME and barely beats Vandy and doesn't fall?
How does OSU end up ahead of Rutgers, and for that matter, UConn who only lost to Rutgers.
LSU beats #5 Tenn on their court and doesn't move to the top if UNC isn't number 1.
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PUmatty
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| Posted: 02/13/06 3:28 pm ::: |
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| dtsnms wrote: |
That's messed up. Makes no sense IMO.
UNC loses to then #6 Maryland and falls behind now #1 Duke who they beat, while Maryland is one spot behind UNC.
Tenn. loses AT HOME and barely beats Vandy and doesn't fall?
How does OSU end up ahead of Rutgers, and for that matter, UConn who only lost to Rutgers.
LSU beats #5 Tenn on their court and doesn't move to the top if UNC isn't number 1. |
Because all the pollsters do is start with last week and move people down if they lose. Then they move people up based on the holes it leaves. Ohio State is ahead of Rutgers because they were ahead of them last week. LSU is behind Duke because they were behind them last week.
There are rare exceptions, but for the most part it only matters who wins and who loses at what time. Nothing else.
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CamrnCrz1974
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| Posted: 02/13/06 3:35 pm ::: |
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| UNC loses to then #6 Maryland and falls behind now #1 Duke who they beat, while Maryland is one spot behind UNC. |
You can't always rank based upon which team beat whom, especially this late in the season when no one is undefeated. Duke beat #6 Maryland in College Park, while UNC lost to the Terps at home. But UNC beat Duke, which beat Tennessee, which lost to LSU, which lost to UConn, which lost to UNC.
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IndyPurduefan
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| Posted: 02/13/06 3:36 pm ::: |
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| PUmatty wrote: |
| dtsnms wrote: |
That's messed up. Makes no sense IMO.
UNC loses to then #6 Maryland and falls behind now #1 Duke who they beat, while Maryland is one spot behind UNC.
Tenn. loses AT HOME and barely beats Vandy and doesn't fall?
How does OSU end up ahead of Rutgers, and for that matter, UConn who only lost to Rutgers.
LSU beats #5 Tenn on their court and doesn't move to the top if UNC isn't number 1. |
Because all the pollsters do is start with last week and move people down if they lose. Then they move people up based on the holes it leaves. Ohio State is ahead of Rutgers because they were ahead of them last week. LSU is behind Duke because they were behind them last week.
There are rare exceptions, but for the most part it only matters who wins and who loses at what time. Nothing else. |
Where is Purdue ranked? I ask because my stupid a-holish company has blocked all sports-related websites (with the exception of this one). I love it, they want us to work 10-11-12 hour days and not give us any 'smoke breaks'!!!!
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PUmatty
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| Posted: 02/13/06 3:39 pm ::: |
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| PUmatty wrote: |
| dtsnms wrote: |
That's messed up. Makes no sense IMO.
UNC loses to then #6 Maryland and falls behind now #1 Duke who they beat, while Maryland is one spot behind UNC.
Tenn. loses AT HOME and barely beats Vandy and doesn't fall?
How does OSU end up ahead of Rutgers, and for that matter, UConn who only lost to Rutgers.
LSU beats #5 Tenn on their court and doesn't move to the top if UNC isn't number 1. |
Because all the pollsters do is start with last week and move people down if they lose. Then they move people up based on the holes it leaves. Ohio State is ahead of Rutgers because they were ahead of them last week. LSU is behind Duke because they were behind them last week.
There are rare exceptions, but for the most part it only matters who wins and who loses at what time. Nothing else. |
Where is Purdue ranked? I ask because my stupid a-holish company has blocked all sports-related websites (with the exception of this one). I love it, they want us to work 10-11-12 hour days and not give us any 'smoke breaks'!!!! |
No. 10. Same as last week.
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bballfan2005
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| Posted: 02/13/06 3:41 pm ::: |
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Wow. Maryland got more first-place votes than UNC.
Good to see that Duke's #1 again despite those who didn't believe...
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dtsnms
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| Posted: 02/13/06 3:43 pm ::: |
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| UNC loses to then #6 Maryland and falls behind now #1 Duke who they beat, while Maryland is one spot behind UNC. |
You can't always rank based upon which team beat whom, especially this late in the season when no one is undefeated. Duke beat #6 Maryland in College Park, while UNC lost to the Terps at home. But UNC beat Duke, which beat Tennessee, which lost to LSU, which lost to UConn, which lost to UNC. |
Which is why IMO UNC should have remained #1. They lost in OT to a top 10 team on a prayer shot that forced the OT.
LSU 2nd, Duke 3rd, Maryland 4th. Rutgers 5th
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CamrnCrz1974
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| Posted: 02/13/06 3:44 pm ::: |
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| But DTS, LSU lost to UConn...so how does that play into it?
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dtsnms
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| Posted: 02/13/06 3:46 pm ::: |
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| But DTS, LSU lost to UConn...so how does that play into it? |
The poll should be based on where were you last week, adjusted for the current week's actions. LSU losing to UConn is in the past weeks.
Even if you considered it, losing to UConn in CT isn't as great a deterrant than the bonus for snapping the home win streak of UT at UT.
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ucbart
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| Posted: 02/13/06 4:19 pm ::: |
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| But DTS, LSU lost to UConn...so how does that play into it? |
The poll should be based on where were you last week, adjusted for the current week's actions. LSU losing to UConn is in the past weeks.
Even if you considered it, losing to UConn in CT isn't as great a deterrant than the bonus for snapping the home win streak of UT at UT. |
My biggest beef is that Tennessee stays at #5, while UCONN drops 4 spots, and both lost one game, and Tennessee coulda/woulda/shoulda lost two.
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Sternvogel
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| Posted: 02/13/06 5:02 pm ::: |
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When I vote in my mailing list's poll, I never move a team down if it has an undefeated week, but I may let one squad "leapfrog" over another, as I did by keeping Duke at #2 following two Blue Devil victories over unranked opponents as LSU vaulted from fourth to first after the Tigers' triumphs over Tennessee and Georgia. Still, I realize that whether comparing teams is more an art or a science, it's an inexact process either way. Here's my latest ballot, with my rankings from last week in parentheses:
1. Louisiana State (4)
2. Duke (2)
3. Maryland (6)
4. North Carolina (1)
5. Rutgers (8)
6. Ohio State (7)
7. Connecticut (3)
8. Tennessee (5)
9. Oklahoma (9)
10. Purdue (11)
11. Stanford (14)
12. Arizona State (16)
13. Georgia (10)
14. DePaul (17)
15. Baylor (15)
16. Michigan State (18)
17. Brigham Young (13)
18. Boston College (19)
19. New Mexico (22)
20. Utah (24)
21. Texas A&M (25)
22. Minnesota (12)
23. Kentucky (on temporary leave)
24. St. John's (20)
25. Indiana State (among the also-rans)
Dropped out: Temple (21), Florida (23)
Games attended: Purdue-IPFW, Purdue-Minnesota (and
who would have thought the first would be the Boilers'
relative struggle of the week?)
Other games seen (some very fleetingly):
Mississippi-Alabama, Michigan State-Minnesota, Ohio
State-Michigan, Penn State-Illinois, DePaul-Notre
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| Posted: 02/13/06 7:01 pm ::: |
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| Well, it was a fun ride for the Red Storm. Stupid frickin' Marquette. We need to pretty much run the table now.
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dukemayo
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| Posted: 02/14/06 12:45 am ::: |
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I saw UNC lose to Maryland on Thursday, I saw us beat Maryland tonight, and I'd still vote UNC #1. It's a travesty that only one voter in the AP poll did so.
The reason: A lot of things had to go wrong for Carolina and right for Maryland to win that Thursday game. UNC had it in hand until Alex Miller was carried off with her neck immobilized after nearly 10 minutes of medical attention on the floor. Besides not having their hottest 3-point shooter (5-6 vs. Ga. Tech and Md.), that had to be upsetting. Larkins was visibly upset. And then Larkins herself was unavailable for the OT because of cramps. Add in two desperation 3's that fell for Maryland.
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